Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
That is SO TRUE, no way would it pass censorship esp with all the social issues they are facing with low childbirth, aging population etc. haha, yea, S.Korean dramas have been showing that, and it’s so liberating. I think about it a lot more because I realised it has become so much more common now…. Because dating has become so convenient (just like most things in the world) and also because I get to see it with colleagues and friends…
Ah yes, so the bigger problem here (which I think is a common problem in relationships) is….. *drumroll…. ‘Keeping someone in the dark’…. Lol. And I have to own up. My own character is sort of like that…. ESPECIALLY if the other person has a short fuse. I will only actively communicate if I trust the other person and if I find the other person being similar to myself in terms of thinking and personality. But I probably would have also broken up if know about the whole non-marriage thing from other people…. I think marriage or non-marriage becomes secondary, the more important thing is…. It’s not only minor things like travelling, concert recital that I have no idea about, I don’t even have any idea about your life plans when everyone else knows… then actually why on Earth are we even going out…..? 🤣
I think the 3 of them are so funny together. The new addition of the cousin is also not bad. Do you remember Wang JuAn hit the youngest brother with the baguette…. I thought that was soooooo funny…. But honestly watching them, I realised men in general are really different to females. Regardless of age or race.
LOL, but my Thai friends told me…. That is how the Thailand culture is. They are seriously kinda crazy… and promiscuity is kinda their nature for both men and women. I was ‘traumatised’ after watching 1 Thai drama…. And from then on I never watched any Thai dramas. I’m sorry but I just find them so bad…. Albeit I only watched one.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
LOL.
Well, to be fair I think it’s always debatable if both people in a relationship should work in the same company…. Pros and cons to both sides, I kinda think it isn’t a good idea esp when one is the CEO and the other is only at an assistant manager level… I mean maybe when she is a lot more experienced and can stand on equal ground… but not now. I think she kinda went to (and stayed at) An Sheng to begin with coz she doesn’t have much of a choice. So good for her that she can resign and go elsewhere! Looking forward to that.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
Seriously quite well written, it’s still a bit stretched here and there, could have been more tightly woven tog. But I’m surprised they brought up the no intention to get married theme. Lol. I was like, wow. That’s refreshing… haha yes, I like how they emulated Su Mo’s character coz she comes off as very real and not flawless. I like how although she is quite impatient (I wouldn’t say she has a temper but she’s kinda impetuous) yet at the same time she isn’t annoying…. Neither does she come off as she’s all over the place. And she hasn’t taken the whole feminism thing to some unicorn level thing.
“ What he did wrong was to assume that she will accept his decision about marriage.” —> Everyone just have different definitions of it and it is a lot of pressure on both genders to bring up lifetime commitments early in a relationship. BUT the fact that everyone knows except her…… yes, I would say for this case he is wrong coz…. People who have known him for a while knows, it’s not something he has decided to only keep to himself…. So he has chosen not to tell her.
I probably wouldn’t take it seriously myself, maybe because I don’t have any intentions to cheat and I have 0 intentions/feelings towards the other person…. So for this, it depends…. I think people who really cheat or someone who can successfully lure another person away isn’t one that does it so openly and comes over to tell you ‘hey I’m doing this’… it’s usually the ones which you have no idea of…. Yea, I think it’s pretty awesome and cool that both of them are not afraid of losing the other person (at least so far… lol. The guy is because he knows he’s a good catch, the girl is coz she prioritises being successful at this point in her life and a more compatible one will come along in the future)
I don’t think the other girl did anything wrong too, they are after all not married….
Well, I came to realise seriousness/commitment, marriage and kids are all different and separate things. For example my ex-boss is committed and has 2 kids but not married to his partner. Yeap, am aware of the S.Korea thing… I do think it is financially motivated but after meeting a few S.Koreans myself via work….. I realised….. actually although initially it might have stemmed from that but it has since evolved…. Think a lot of S.Koreans now don’t get married for various reasons.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
Exactly! If he is like 23-25 I probably would still find it believable that he’d choose a Su Mo. Lol.I am still slightly cynical because I kinda agree with the 2nd brother in the sense; in reality would someone with the calibre of Wang Ju An really choose a Su Mo esp because he is aiming to be the future Group CEO and esp at his age now….. I think in reality it’s always a 50-50 chance. Or maybe even less than that.
Lol, hence I thought her communicating her logic so flawlessly in his office made a lot of sense and totally deserves a bravo. She said a lot of the important points… could have been a tad bit more comprehensive, but she has given very fair objective points. She was like “wow, initially it’s 2 days, then it’s 2 months, eventually will it be 2 yrs….?”
Their issues and the real reason for discord is already way past any girl issues…. As the relationship progresses there will be other issues that’d surface regardless of whether it’s girl related or not.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
Yes, I was so surprised that everything you mentioned above is kinda realistic (coz I could put myself in both the ML and FL shoes and totally relate to both of them, and for many things I probably would have done the same thing too). I thought it was going to be a superb cliched kinda romance development…
Haha yes, told her a hard no in a slightly insulting tone + manner actually… not sure if that came across in subs, but in Mandarin he kinda provoked her… hence why she was so pissed.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
LOL! That is true, she totally has that vibe, and he kinda did the same…. Hahaha but I found Ji Heng very annoying though (sorry to the actress for this, she received sooooo much criticism in Mainland for this that it was a massive scandal coz she apparently committed suicide but is fine now, I feel kinda bad coz I partially also agree that it’s due to her botched plastic surgeries)…. Just somehow makes her veryyyyy annoying…
The Li YiTing here…. I don’t like her, but I don’t feel like strangling her… lol. I personally wouldn’t chase after a person…. But I respect people who chase after who and wot they want.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
I’m kind of am….. In-line with the drama on the whole marriage thing… maybe because it is really common nowadays… and I have a friend who had her heart broken so many times from dating that it took her a while to realise that… you know wot, the solution is actually really simple… I’m just now going to be superb upfront with marriage and children that I will ASK on the first date instead of assuming it even though a guy says he’s ‘serious’. I actually thought that was very smart because I truly believe the person who wants it should take responsibility for it and initiate. It’s basically the same analogy as getting promoted/salary raise at work. Yea sure, one could work hard and assume that your manager would know. It’s ‘common sense’ because it happens normally and annually. But that’s not how it works in real life…. Totally not…
Ok, ‘date with intention to get married’…. This I think is dependent on culture… and perhaps age/phase of life… and it varies for each person… I personally think it’s something that shouldn’t be assumed nowadays esp. outside of Mainland. I do think that it was wrong of him to omit this important fact when he was so eager to meet her parents….. this considering the whole Mainland Chinese culture….. yea, so for this I think it was the right timing for the girl to actually ask before allowing it and also for the guy, who could have been upfront.
Yeap if a guy or girl don’t matter, don’t think the person would cry. I wouldn’t. Exactly! I would have coz it’s kinda shocking, she most defo was taken aback.
No, so it’s not so much about her running back to him (she can’t anyway, he decided to omit the fact again, so he doesn’t even know that she already knew/stopped by the auditorium) or her getting mad for being on a trip with her. It’s actually more about hiding things/communicating…. The real reason why she’s mad is that she had absolutely no idea, and probably would have no idea if she never went to the airport, just like she had no idea he had no intention to get married, and also…. The piano recital thing, he ultimately chose to hide it from her….. so to her, based on wot she has said so far, the larger part of it is, should I have even trusted you to begin with coz clearly the ans is no based on wot you’ve done so far… which subsequently led to her whole speech in his office before breaking up with him…. It’s basically trust…
Yea, but regarding those things that involve the other girl… I think in reality it would be like the drama, honestly him and Su Mo have only known each other for less than a year…. And YiTing isn’t some random girl…. Aside from the family friends thing, they also grew up tog. And on top of that there is also business relationship. I do think wot it shows on all the things that you’ve mentioned is…. They don’t really know each other that well and they got tog, which is common in modern day dating… I don’t think it should disqualify him just yet but I equally also think these are pretty fundamental issues which shouldn’t be taken lightly. Yea, the whole piano recital thing is exactly like the travelling thing. It actually extends way beyond ‘a girl’ issue.
Haha, they are our place holder for the suffering of the people. You can really feel how screwed up everything…
But it is general human nature…. Even in current times. The Chinese even has a proverb for it “ 欺善怕惡” - ‘to bully the good and the weak but fear the savage and evil people’.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
But I totally don’t think it was a “Dong Hua and Ji Heng” dejavu… that was a misunderstanding even from the start which I agree is honestly quite stupid…..
All the scenarios in the current drama are NOT misunderstandings at all. They are serious issues… Far from a misunderstanding… lol, it is fully intentional albeit implicitly/subconsciously…
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
But she does fancy him as much as he fancies her though…. So this is obvious… Also, I don’t think he is a bad partner…. I actually think he is good boyfriend material and is serious about the relationship but he has real flaws just like all other good boyfriends/girlfriends in this world. So it’d depend if things will change and whether they can overcome it because it’s still early days in the relationship. Coz right now he doesn’t even agree with her, which is sooooo realistic. Lol.
If I was her I’d literally tell him “but imagine if I did the same thing to you…. I go on a business trip with another guy who fancies me but didn’t tell you…. Because it’s last minute… is that okay? If you are alright with it then I’m cool too.” I found it surprisingly very real because it’s obvious that he doesn’t even agree with any of her reasoning and doesn’t think that there is a problem, she’s just overreacting because he felt that he didn’t do anything wrong coz he didn’t cheat… and have no intentions to.
Also his rationale for not telling her about the trip….. I kinda totally agree. LOL. Honestly I might have done the same if I have a jealous bf. BUT I also agree with Su Mo, this is actually an indication that there is a bigger fundamental issue with the relationship, it shows that you don’t want to communicate with me because of my temper/issues and I no longer trust you because you always omit certain key facts. Nah, wouldn’t quit the company, why would she, furthermore no longer in his team. Even I wouldn’t.
No, so he is saying that if he did do it, he’d be disappointed with himself, the order of the sentence could be slightly better, it’s kinda reversed and slightly off. Wot he really said in Mandarin is this - "I would look down on myself if I were to remain with you for the sake of finishing the cultural corridor."
BUT Vengo Gao’s acting is sooooo good here. Seriously for like a split second I really thought he was going to agree. 🤣🤣🤣 I was like “reallllyyyyy…. You would get tog with her……??”
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
Yea…. These are very real life and current issues in the society today…. AND yes I agree that it causes a small amount of people to decide that they’d never get married, I totally can understand it…. I actually think it’s perfectly fine. Actually the K-actress, Kim Seo Hyung revealed on Radio Star that’s the reason why she will never get married.
Though I feel the FL also has a point. So they are both right, but another main reason that she is angry is more of…. She is the last person to know… everyone knows except her. I personally think even dating nowadays…. This is handled in many different ways depending on each person. If he told her this from the get go, she basically would have never gotten tog with him (which was wot she said), so in a way he has intentionally hidden it…, and coupled with other issues, there is also a trust issue,… amongst other issues. BUT because she is young, and it’s likely it has never crossed her mind, she never asked him about it. So in a way she also can’t entirely blame him, and she knows this. I think this is something that every girl (or even guy) in the modern dating world faces now because not everyone talk or discuss this in the first date/early in the relationship. It also includes topics like whether there is an intention to have kids.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
Yea. He never had the intention to and everyone who grew up with him or is close friends with him knows except her… that obsessive girl is still causing havoc but it’s actually not the real reason that they break up, it was just a catalyst. Their issues are more fundamental, it’s things which most people including those people who aren’t jealous would also fight about/break up. You’d have to watch it to find out the details…. But they get back tog pretty quickly though…. So….. kinda pointless anyways.
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively…
But I was quite surprised when the ML revealed he actually had no intentions to get married considering he’s no player. This actually is a very realistic problem which occurs more frequently than not in real life esp current times (for both men and women actually)…. Which is hardly addressed in Asian dramas, esp Mainland ones because it is still viewed as uncommon and unconventional… it really did surprise me…
Lol, Su Mo is quite impressive esp in the latest eps… it’s the subtle bits that count… she surprised me coz…… she didn’t cry. I’m very impressed, because a 27-year old me would have cried when I’m on my own if I really fancied the dude. But she never did, Zhang Yu Qi portrayed it alright…. Believable, not perfect, but didn’t look unnatural….
I just love the FL. She isn't like those silly girls we see in many c-dramas who claim they don't rely on a man…
Have you watched the latest episodes? I’m actually surprised that the issues between them are actually relatively realistic too…. I thought it was going to be superb cliched…. But it looks like they kinda patch things up very quickly…. That’s kinda…….. lame…. Lol. Their issues are more fundamental vs. just jealousy/misunderstanding…
dont worry. his character in this is the complete opposite of wen kexing
Really?? I look at the still pictures and I think coz of the way the hair and make up is done (plus he looks naturally androgynous)…. I keep seeing Wen Ke Xing… everywhere… ok, looking forward to check out wot his character is like in this one…
I’m a gullible person that fell for the high budget, dreamlike shooting locations, half-tropey-half-probable plot…. And Super attractive leads with to die for chemistry….. 🤣🤣🤣 call me shallow! 😝
Will I be able to find another romance drama at the same level……? Esp given they got married in real life………. Sighs.
Lol, I play bits and pieces of this drama from time to time…
I think probably a lot of people do coz I bet all the viewers + fans are enamoured on how they ended up getting married in real life, I remembered when the news came out I was super shocked and also felt soooooo sweet, extremely happy for them… they also had a modern fairytale kinda relationship… it was like the drama without the whole North Korean bit…. Coz they actually didn’t meet via this drama…. They kinda “crash landed” in each others life over a few yrs…. Via ‘fate’ or more of chance….
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It’s on Youku.
Haha, it is very tropey. Yes, was the case with Ji Heng too! But poor Vengo Gao hasn’t been getting the best scripts since Eternal Love of Dream…. Only Miss S, that was so good. I didn’t watch the doctor one, that should have been a solid script… but somehow the ratings weren’t high. Probably too draggy as a drama.
Ah yes, so the bigger problem here (which I think is a common problem in relationships) is….. *drumroll…. ‘Keeping someone in the dark’…. Lol. And I have to own up. My own character is sort of like that…. ESPECIALLY if the other person has a short fuse. I will only actively communicate if I trust the other person and if I find the other person being similar to myself in terms of thinking and personality. But I probably would have also broken up if know about the whole non-marriage thing from other people…. I think marriage or non-marriage becomes secondary, the more important thing is…. It’s not only minor things like travelling, concert recital that I have no idea about, I don’t even have any idea about your life plans when everyone else knows… then actually why on Earth are we even going out…..? 🤣
I think the 3 of them are so funny together. The new addition of the cousin is also not bad. Do you remember Wang JuAn hit the youngest brother with the baguette…. I thought that was soooooo funny…. But honestly watching them, I realised men in general are really different to females. Regardless of age or race.
LOL, but my Thai friends told me…. That is how the Thailand culture is. They are seriously kinda crazy… and promiscuity is kinda their nature for both men and women. I was ‘traumatised’ after watching 1 Thai drama…. And from then on I never watched any Thai dramas. I’m sorry but I just find them so bad…. Albeit I only watched one.
Well, to be fair I think it’s always debatable if both people in a relationship should work in the same company…. Pros and cons to both sides, I kinda think it isn’t a good idea esp when one is the CEO and the other is only at an assistant manager level… I mean maybe when she is a lot more experienced and can stand on equal ground… but not now. I think she kinda went to (and stayed at) An Sheng to begin with coz she doesn’t have much of a choice. So good for her that she can resign and go elsewhere! Looking forward to that.
“ What he did wrong was to assume that she will accept his decision about marriage.” —> Everyone just have different definitions of it and it is a lot of pressure on both genders to bring up lifetime commitments early in a relationship. BUT the fact that everyone knows except her…… yes, I would say for this case he is wrong coz…. People who have known him for a while knows, it’s not something he has decided to only keep to himself…. So he has chosen not to tell her.
I probably wouldn’t take it seriously myself, maybe because I don’t have any intentions to cheat and I have 0 intentions/feelings towards the other person…. So for this, it depends…. I think people who really cheat or someone who can successfully lure another person away isn’t one that does it so openly and comes over to tell you ‘hey I’m doing this’… it’s usually the ones which you have no idea of…. Yea, I think it’s pretty awesome and cool that both of them are not afraid of losing the other person (at least so far… lol. The guy is because he knows he’s a good catch, the girl is coz she prioritises being successful at this point in her life and a more compatible one will come along in the future)
I don’t think the other girl did anything wrong too, they are after all not married….
Well, I came to realise seriousness/commitment, marriage and kids are all different and separate things. For example my ex-boss is committed and has 2 kids but not married to his partner. Yeap, am aware of the S.Korea thing… I do think it is financially motivated but after meeting a few S.Koreans myself via work….. I realised….. actually although initially it might have stemmed from that but it has since evolved…. Think a lot of S.Koreans now don’t get married for various reasons.
Lol, hence I thought her communicating her logic so flawlessly in his office made a lot of sense and totally deserves a bravo. She said a lot of the important points… could have been a tad bit more comprehensive, but she has given very fair objective points. She was like “wow, initially it’s 2 days, then it’s 2 months, eventually will it be 2 yrs….?”
Their issues and the real reason for discord is already way past any girl issues…. As the relationship progresses there will be other issues that’d surface regardless of whether it’s girl related or not.
Haha yes, told her a hard no in a slightly insulting tone + manner actually… not sure if that came across in subs, but in Mandarin he kinda provoked her… hence why she was so pissed.
The Li YiTing here…. I don’t like her, but I don’t feel like strangling her… lol. I personally wouldn’t chase after a person…. But I respect people who chase after who and wot they want.
Ok, ‘date with intention to get married’…. This I think is dependent on culture… and perhaps age/phase of life… and it varies for each person… I personally think it’s something that shouldn’t be assumed nowadays esp. outside of Mainland. I do think that it was wrong of him to omit this important fact when he was so eager to meet her parents….. this considering the whole Mainland Chinese culture….. yea, so for this I think it was the right timing for the girl to actually ask before allowing it and also for the guy, who could have been upfront.
Yeap if a guy or girl don’t matter, don’t think the person would cry. I wouldn’t. Exactly! I would have coz it’s kinda shocking, she most defo was taken aback.
No, so it’s not so much about her running back to him (she can’t anyway, he decided to omit the fact again, so he doesn’t even know that she already knew/stopped by the auditorium) or her getting mad for being on a trip with her. It’s actually more about hiding things/communicating…. The real reason why she’s mad is that she had absolutely no idea, and probably would have no idea if she never went to the airport, just like she had no idea he had no intention to get married, and also…. The piano recital thing, he ultimately chose to hide it from her….. so to her, based on wot she has said so far, the larger part of it is, should I have even trusted you to begin with coz clearly the ans is no based on wot you’ve done so far… which subsequently led to her whole speech in his office before breaking up with him…. It’s basically trust…
Yea, but regarding those things that involve the other girl… I think in reality it would be like the drama, honestly him and Su Mo have only known each other for less than a year…. And YiTing isn’t some random girl…. Aside from the family friends thing, they also grew up tog. And on top of that there is also business relationship. I do think wot it shows on all the things that you’ve mentioned is…. They don’t really know each other that well and they got tog, which is common in modern day dating… I don’t think it should disqualify him just yet but I equally also think these are pretty fundamental issues which shouldn’t be taken lightly. Yea, the whole piano recital thing is exactly like the travelling thing. It actually extends way beyond ‘a girl’ issue.
All the scenarios in the current drama are NOT misunderstandings at all. They are serious issues… Far from a misunderstanding… lol, it is fully intentional albeit implicitly/subconsciously…
If I was her I’d literally tell him “but imagine if I did the same thing to you…. I go on a business trip with another guy who fancies me but didn’t tell you…. Because it’s last minute… is that okay? If you are alright with it then I’m cool too.” I found it surprisingly very real because it’s obvious that he doesn’t even agree with any of her reasoning and doesn’t think that there is a problem, she’s just overreacting because he felt that he didn’t do anything wrong coz he didn’t cheat… and have no intentions to.
Also his rationale for not telling her about the trip….. I kinda totally agree. LOL. Honestly I might have done the same if I have a jealous bf. BUT I also agree with Su Mo, this is actually an indication that there is a bigger fundamental issue with the relationship, it shows that you don’t want to communicate with me because of my temper/issues and I no longer trust you because you always omit certain key facts.
Nah, wouldn’t quit the company, why would she, furthermore no longer in his team. Even I wouldn’t.
No, so he is saying that if he did do it, he’d be disappointed with himself, the order of the sentence could be slightly better, it’s kinda reversed and slightly off. Wot he really said in Mandarin is this - "I would look down on myself if I were to remain with you for the sake of finishing the cultural corridor."
BUT Vengo Gao’s acting is sooooo good here. Seriously for like a split second I really thought he was going to agree. 🤣🤣🤣 I was like “reallllyyyyy…. You would get tog with her……??”
Though I feel the FL also has a point. So they are both right, but another main reason that she is angry is more of…. She is the last person to know… everyone knows except her. I personally think even dating nowadays…. This is handled in many different ways depending on each person. If he told her this from the get go, she basically would have never gotten tog with him (which was wot she said), so in a way he has intentionally hidden it…, and coupled with other issues, there is also a trust issue,… amongst other issues. BUT because she is young, and it’s likely it has never crossed her mind, she never asked him about it. So in a way she also can’t entirely blame him, and she knows this. I think this is something that every girl (or even guy) in the modern dating world faces now because not everyone talk or discuss this in the first date/early in the relationship. It also includes topics like whether there is an intention to have kids.
Lol, Su Mo is quite impressive esp in the latest eps… it’s the subtle bits that count… she surprised me coz…… she didn’t cry. I’m very impressed, because a 27-year old me would have cried when I’m on my own if I really fancied the dude. But she never did, Zhang Yu Qi portrayed it alright…. Believable, not perfect, but didn’t look unnatural….
Will I be able to find another romance drama at the same level……? Esp given they got married in real life………. Sighs.
I think probably a lot of people do coz I bet all the viewers + fans are enamoured on how they ended up getting married in real life, I remembered when the news came out I was super shocked and also felt soooooo sweet, extremely happy for them… they also had a modern fairytale kinda relationship… it was like the drama without the whole North Korean bit…. Coz they actually didn’t meet via this drama…. They kinda “crash landed” in each others life over a few yrs…. Via ‘fate’ or more of chance….
Haha, it is very tropey. Yes, was the case with Ji Heng too! But poor Vengo Gao hasn’t been getting the best scripts since Eternal Love of Dream…. Only Miss S, that was so good. I didn’t watch the doctor one, that should have been a solid script… but somehow the ratings weren’t high. Probably too draggy as a drama.