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From what I remember it wasn’t her gift. It was a gift for Hagi, she destroyed. So it wasn’t something she owned, it was Hagi who owned it.

Agreed! As if cheating is the worst thing you can do to your partner, please don’t make me laugh! Both guys have been tortured and abused by their roommates, any emotional and physical support they needed was denied, time and time again. It’s not just sex Fuji and Kaori with held from them, it’s any sort of physical contact or affection. No hugs (I do not count that half ass hug Kaori gave Hagi in ep 2), no hand holding, no kiss on the cheek. They tortured the guys to the point that both think they are gross, dirty, ashamed for having wants and needs. Those thoughts and that image of themselves is going to be with them a lot longer than any the supposed impact of the “cheating” is going to be.

It’s laughable how people are so focused on the “cheating” but forget or rather ignore everything the roommates did to them. Above reaction is the same, so focused on making the guys the bad guys and oh poor little Kaori, she didn’t deserve that. Did Hagi deserve to be talked about behind his back? Or to made feel worthless, disgusting, dirty, ashamed? Both guys did not deserve to be neglected like this!

Can you explain what the SJW code is you are talking about, my brain is not braining at the moment.

I’m done talking to you. You clearly do not understand what I was saying nor read my comment thoroughly!

Thank you for saying this.

I personally had a really hard time ending my very toxic and abusive relationship because of those crumbs you speak off. 4 year before I ended my relationship I already knew I wasn’t in a healthy relationship but I was so depended on him and thought I wouldn’t make it on my own. In the end I stayed 11 years (way to long) I think Sei has that sane feeling, after his parents death only Fuji was there for him, taking care of him. So with how fragile he mentally is I can imagine he has a hard time leaving/standing up for himself etc. I personally agree with you that they do not have to say sorry. They were treated horribly by their friend/partner.

You don’t even know it’s a loss of sex drive for Kaori, because she does not communicate it! For you it’s to extreme, for me it’s just right. She has been stringing that guy along for a year, not 2 months, a year! Thats twelve freaking months of just nothing! These episodes she has been nothing but cruel towards Hagi, she’s been neglecting him. Yet she expects him to wait for her like a lost puppy. So yes to me she absolutely deserves that title! How exactly am I shaming Kaori? I personally don’t give a crab about her losing her sex drive, because for all I know she still has her sex drive, just not for Hagi and has found some piece on the side? We do not know anything about her or Fuji, because again they do not communicate!

Fuji isnt Sei his partner! That you do not see it as controlling doesn’t mean I or others feel the same! Numerous people (including me) during these episodes have said that Fuji is abusive, isolating and controlling of Sei. Him having Sei his phone and picking up the phone is just another example! I for one do not accept my partners picking up my phone, if it’s important it will go to voicemail or they can message me. My phone is for me, and me alone! Either one is wrong, it’s not one is more wrong than the other.

Lol and what exactly of the “correct way”? Communicating with their people? Guess what they tried that, multiple times! Breaking up with their partner? How exactly are they supposed to do that when they are constantly being shut down or rejected.

In my post I explicitly said for me their relationship ended the moment Kaori started not communicating and keeping Hagi in the dark. For me that is cheating, she purposely kept her partner from her feelings, thoughts, wants and needs. I don’t give a flying f*ck about the physical aspect of it. She wasn’t open about it, she lied multiple times by omitting the truth. Again this is my point of view.

I can’t be the only one who thinks that frigid bitch kind of deserved it. Like you could have expected it to happen, you turned cold to him and he accepted it for more than a year. If you keep pushing a person at some point, they are going to snap and say enough. Also not cool how she broke Sei his bulb present for Hagi. Maybe if you finally had explained things to your partner instead of to a friend of yours, this wouldn’t have happened. But than again play stupid games, win stupid prizes!

Her excuse of Hagi being masculine was clearly bs, he was anything but that, during the nc scene with Sei, and I feel like Hagi would have been the same with Kaori. He was tender, sweet, caring, etc.

So for Fuji, Fuji has no right to be angry, they aren’t even partners, roommates at best. Or is he afraid that he is going to loose that control over Sei, now that somebody else is giving him attention. Also why does he have Sei his phone, why is he even picking up the phone. It all feels so controlling and abusive, like all the things Sei isnt allowed to do or has to give up to be Fuji’s roommate.

Also for all the holier than thou people, cheating is different for everybody. For most it’s sex, for other it’s kissing, or liking post on social media. For me the relationship between Hagi and Kaori was over the moment she didn’t communicate with him, and kept him in the dark for a whole freaking year! The relationship has been over, they just haven’t said it out loud yet.

This episode was heartbreaking, the invisible wall that emerged the morning after, how they both took a bed to eat. The same way the glass doors was there to symbolize the enormous gap between them. Or the comparison with how tender Hagi was with Sei his toe compared to the roughness and lack of compassion from Fuji. The way Sei tried to close himself off from Fuji, yet letting slip some very tender and emotional moments.

It’s going to be another week of waiting, personally of all the bl series currently airing this one I anticipate the most during the week.

I love how realistic and interesting this series is.

How exactly are you expecting them to communicate when both partner and roommate shut down every conversation about it?

I also want to say that cheating is for everybody differently, for you cheating might be when people who are in a relationship have sex with others. For some it’s kissing and some even say liking a post is cheating.

You say cheating is cruel, I find what both Fuji and Kaori do far more crueler, abusive even. What about everything Kaori and Fuji have done towards the guys. They both loath and hate themselves, they feel ashamed for having needs. What do you think that rejection every time is doing to them?

You can get all mad at Hagi and Sei but what about their partner/friend/roommata. Kaori also could have sat Hagi down and explained it to him, or even broke up with him. Instead she let him question everything about himself because of her actions! You are seeing things very black and white which is fine, but don’t get mad at the people who can see the grey and sympathize with the guys! I do wonder why you watch this series?

Are we watching the same series? Because she is is the cruel one here, she doesn’t communicate and keeps her partner in the dark. Only poor one is her partner who is patiently waiting for her and respecting her boundaries!

Im sorry, I read that completly wrong. Just ignore my comment😉

No it isn’t. Episode 17 is when Faifa and Wine their story begins. So we have one more episode.

I do agree, though the mother from Uea (bed friends) shares that first place, im afraid. She was such a cold hearted b*tch. I agree with you that we do not need any flashbacks, but knowing Mame we probably will see some of it. Or there will be something coming, she doesn’t really shy away from traumatizing scenes.

It’s because each couple has 8/9 episodes and GMMTV is known to wrap everything in a neat little bow. I found Gun healing from his trauma, afraid of the light rushed. But like I said its GMMTV and the writers.

For me after I found a healthy relationship it did help a bit. Because you can do a lot alone, but I found out that only when you are in a relationship are you going to know certain triggers. Like for me the 50 or so disagreements/fights were very stressful, because I was so used to being screamed at or cussed out, so that’s what you are expecting. Or just certain behaviors that instantly set me on high alert. while those behaviors aren’t necessarily wrong, the actions that tended to follow were wrong. It can help but in most instances therapy is still needed. New healthy relationships aren’t a cure but they do help with healing. I don’t know if you understand what I mean, because I find myself being very vague.

I really loved this episode, there were some moments stood out for me. For example:
Yotha helping Gun with his fears and trauma was definitely one of them. Even though I do think they moved quite fast with his trauma, it’s probably the writers from GMMTV. Yotha becoming a beacon of light with his yellow pjs in Gun his nightmare. Yotha his patience when he thinks that Gun woke up after a nightmare. Gun being happy they get to eat out of the room and them sharing the food together. How happy and lovable Gun his family is towards him and later Yotha.

I like how they took the time to get to know them, even if the ending made it feel a bit rushed. I liked Yotha saying he was brave enough to love Gun. That shows that yes he is still scared but doesn’t want to loose Gun and wants to risk getting hurt in the possible future for him.

I’m glad Yotha does realize that he made Gun less shiny and sad a couple of times, and also again apologized for it.

I didn’t really get why those guys were trying to beat up Klao, was it because he helped Yotha? Klao and Wa their scenes felt somewhat off, it felt like we missed some scenes.

Saw the preview of the next episode and honestly I just hope that for once the storyline doesn’t have those whole let’s forgive toxic parents in it. I know it’s a different culture and different values, but children/teens/adult don’t have to accept or forgive lousy parents.

But then again it’s GMMTV and they usually tend to give parents this unrealistic 180 turn in their character, so that they then can talk it out with the children. Somehow all the neglect, abuse, control, manipulations and guilt trips are all magically solved and forgotten.

If you mean episode 37, I watched that part. But maybe somebody who had read the book, could have the answers. Thank you for your answer

You said what I was thinking, the first 5 episodes were so lovely and mature. The whole love triangle thing just made me so uninterested to watch the series. This was one of my most anticipated series, but with Jun constantly trying to sabotage the building relationship between Po and Thame, it just felt so immature and unnecessary. I agree with you that it felt like Jun either was very manipulative towards Po or/and just a toxic friend towards Thame. Isnt there something like a friendship code? The past 3 episodes have just been so immature, it feels like high school drama. The Jun story was unnecessary, why not show how Thame and Po build a strong relationship? So that by the time it does get out that they are dating/are gay, they won’t instantly break up because of out.

And for everybody these boundaries could be different, I’ve told you my boundaries in my relationships. So above is how I would define the relationship (or lack there off) between the two couple. But can I ask you back, what do you define as cheating?

For me cheating is not communicating, not being open and honest. I don’t give a damn about sex, for me cheating isn’t physical. I’m polyamorous, so for me cheating is not respecting the rules and boundaries you have agreed upon as a couple.

I feel like there isn’t any relationship anymore between Kaori and Hagi because they act more like roommates. They are indifferent towards each other, the conversations aren’t deep or meaningful. The relationship is already over they just haven’t spoken the words out loud yet.

For me Kaori cheated first by being completely cold towards Hagi, by not considering his feelings in this matter. By completely ignoring his needs and wants, by doing things without communicating to him or being honest about it. She is lying to him by omitting, I find her very cruel.

As for Sei and Fuji I mean thats not even a relationship, that’s a trauma bond. Sei attached himself on Fuji after his parents died and it seems like Fuji took that chance to completely isolate Sei from everybody, while Sei was vulnerable.

Everybody thinks differently about cheating, some think watching porn is cheating. Some say a shared kiss is cheating, some say liking a post from somebody on social media is cheating.

I’m sorry but how are they supposed to communicate when every time they bring it up a person either flees or comes up with some kind of lousy excuse? And what kind of solutions do you have? Do Kaori or Fuji look or talk like they would be willing to open up the relationship?