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Right?! Faifa had no problems butting in to Yotha and Gun their problems. And in ‘protecting’ Gun from his big bad brother, Faifa completely abandoned Yotha.

Agreed!

BossNoeul as always slayed! I really liked their part, I loved how Cir was supporting Phu with the loss of his father. Or how Cir every time Phu felt down, tried to lift him up. You can see that BossNoeul has grown when it comes to their acting skills. Both their eyes spoke volumes today, only thing what I kind of missed was a couple of tears but not really needed, because you could clearly see the pain in Phu his eyes. I’m looking forward to next week.

I really don’t like Jin, he is so pushy. How many more times need Wine say no (out loud or in his mind) before Jin finally gets it and stops. Constantly ignoring Wim his boundaries is not cute it’s toxic. Needing to blackmail Cir to get Wim to go with him to the movies is also not okay. Using Wim his thoughts to get closer is just wrong! And kissing somebody who has said multiple times that he doesn’t want to be around you is not funny.

I’m going to be honest, I’m not feeling FaifaWine so far. I know it’s only their first episode and they barely had any scenes (thanks New). But the scenes I did saw were okay-ish.

I feel like Faifa is way to desperate and clingy towards Wine, like dude do you not see Wine being uncomfortable as hell? They are practically strangers, they only met 2 times before and those meetings were maybe 5 minutes where they saw/spoke to each other. Faifa is so pushy, give Wine some time to breathe, please! Also what’s with all the touching? Never heard of personal space? I get Faifa being a people pleaser but that doesn’t mean he constantly has to invade somebody else’s personal space.

I can understand why Yotha is protective of Wine. That little slip up where Faifa says it’s not going to be like the others, yeah I have questions about it.

I get a lot of people are super excited, I’m less excited. Hopefully it will be better during the next episodes.

Please do let me live, I’m just expressing my opinion.

I think you mean Faifa. And I agree with the last alinea. I think YothaGun storyline got seriously messed up by director New. Because in the book they handle Yotha and Gun their trauma very maturely and serious. Well have to see with Faifa and Wine their storyline. New has a habit of having the actor who plays the role of the bottom, act very childish.

Agreed, I would’ve liked to see more of them, but allas.

Don’t forget the two scenes in the previous episodes FaiWine had together. So they had a bit more but I do agree that all those side couples and Arc/Arm can lesson. I can for example understand YothaGun their part, seeing as Yotha is Faifa his brother and mentee of Yotha. Sadly it was the same during YothaGun storyline.

Since the start of episode 9, we have continuously seem ArcArm, PondSand and JetYeepun during the episodes after, it was to be expected that was going to happen with the storyline FaifaWine. I mean New gave screening time for YothaGun or KlaoWarich to the other 3 couples, and consequently rushed Yotha and Gun their trauma recovery. I don’t want to sound mean, but with New as director, you can prepare yourself for disappointment. Again no hateful meant

Agreed!

Hagi looked at Sei his wrist, which was blue-ish with bruises. From where Fuji held Sei.

I was one of the people who did say in the book Fuji SA Sei because I was told that by somebody who read the book. But when somebody said basically the same thing you did, I went back and watched without thinking of the knowledge I already had. And you are right, it indeed why people are saying I don’t know if I can say it was SA or even if there was sex, yes or no because the it isn’t clearly shown. And with that I don’t say you need to see the explicit act. But they just don’t clear it up, Sei and Fuji apologize could be interpreted as apologizing for the things they did before that night. Sei not being clear to Hagi while trying to push him away is also not clear. I get that maybe the cast tried to make it clear by bruises and hikeys but that can also happen during rough consensual sex. Nobody explicitly said it out loud that Sei was SA.

I think the director, screenwriter has left a lot out, which is understandable because only 7 episodes each 25 minutes, but the director shouldn’t assume that viewers who watch this show have read the book, especially international viewers because the book isn’t translated yet. Nor should it be necessary to read the book to understand the storyline or get more information.

I send it.

Can I send you my response through PM? There is some personal stuff in there.

I just had a whole comment written and when posted the app bad gateway and my comment didnt got through. I’ll see if I can rewrite it somewhat. Once again reminding me that I should type out these comments somewhere else and then just copy past it 😂

I don’t know if you know, but I’m the one who has been your follower, friend?! So far we have been very much on the same side and thinking regarding this series, but I don’t know why we have a different opinion in this one. I have been watching because I enjoy this show, it’s one of the series I look out for because of how complex and interesting the series is and how they handle a topic that doesn’t really get talked about because it’s treated almost like taboo.

I don’t go of on the plot line, in the books Sei gets SA. I get you have a different of opinion and that is fine we can agree to disagree, my opinion is Fuji forced himself on Sei because said multiple times stop, don’t do this. Just because Fuji didn’t listen and Sei gave himself over to Fuji doesn’t then make it consent. I’ll say, I shouldn’t jump the gun if it was r*pe or SA, I don’t think Sei agreed to either one.

All of this! It’s the same argument that people didn’t want to see Fuji is actually abusive and controlling over Sei. For them it seems to be coming out of the blue or not in line with his character!

Lets be very clear, the fact that Sei stopped struggling and pushing Fuji off him is not consent, he just knew he couldn’t stop Fuji, not in the blind rage Fuji was in. Sei being very clear that he would have sex with anybody but Fuji that’s a clear rejection, a no! Not to mention the multiple times he said stop, or what aren’t we going to count those because “he dropped his hand”? It was very clear that this was r*pe, Fuji saying sorry and I didn’t mean to hurt you afterwards, is exactly what abusers say after they beat or hit their victims! I didn’t want to hurt you, is also a classic oneliner!

I wrote this in one of my comments somewhere down below, more as a precaution but I didn’t think somebody would be stupid enough to actually write it! Your bloody reasoning makes me disgusted, so what if somebody was absolutely drunk as hell, then it’s alright because they can’t fight back? Ever heard of fight, flight or freeze? Just because somebody gives themselves over because they realize they can’t win and just stop fighting, doesn’t mean for a second that they consented! That there are still people who think like this, is absolutely insane!

You still have time to delete that comment! I seriously would do it, idiot!

I definitely know which video 😉 American next top model, Tyra Banks screaming at one of the models, I believe it was season 2 or 3.

Maybe Fuji does care for Sei, but doing what he did, broke everything they build together. Before Sei absolutely adored Fuji, Sei said it himself if you do this, we won’t be able to go back, or something like that. Look I don’t think you are stupid, a lot of people didn’t see the emotional and mental abuse Fuji put Sei through. I feel like the people who did see it, might have some experience with abuse in the past, I know I did. It’s not a bad thing not noticing or getting that Fuji was abusive, sadly it tends to start with just here and there a remark, or a thing you did being blown way out of proportion. Or some kind of thing you need to stop doing because the other person doesn’t like it.

A lot of people wouldn’t accept that, but the vulnerable ones or the people who have been abused by their parents, or have a traumatic experience when they are younger, might think that this is normal, that it’s love or that you should sacrifice things because of love. Those people tend to get love bombed, followed by a trauma bond. Then it tends to start small, like I said here and there a remark. A huge fight about something very small etc. For Sei, he was traumatized after seeing his parents die in front of him, I feel like Fuji might have taken advantage of that, and started isolating him. And maybe that was done out of concern or trying to protect Sei.

Inject insulin under the tongue 😇 while he sleeps