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Maybe I should have said it more clearly, I only meant it physical, the bun was just a instant recollection of Payu. But yes you are right about the personality’s, those don’t even look an inch the same.

I personally I’m not really feeling FaifaWine so far. My favorite so far has definitely been YothaGun. I don’t know what it is but so far I can’t connect with them. Maybe it’s the people pleasing of Faifa that is throwing me off, but I find him so pushy towards Wine. He thankfully backed of a bit after the bar night in this last episode, but we’ll see how he is the upcoming episodes.

He reminded me way to much of Payu, especially with that hair in a bun. I think that might be the difference, I instantly thought, hey payu is visiting.

Oh how naive some of these reactions are, that woman didnt do it out of the goodness of her heart or because she wanted the boys to succeed.

She did it for the money, plain and simple. Every single member of Mars is/was a threat to her plans, she has/had plans for Thame and the guys from Mars and Po threatend those plans. Thats why she, one by one, took them away from Thame, first she guilt tripped Po into breaking up with Thame. Then she completely blind sided the group on national television during an interview, meaning the group had no time to regroup and come up with a plan. And the final nail in the coffin, she told Mars about the debts Thame took on for them, making them feel guilty for doing that, because if they didnt do what she said, they would have contract fees/debts. Putting all the members into corners they couldnt get out of.

You can see that after that conversation Thame lost the will to fight, he has lost Po, his friends, his members, his Mars. Somebody who has lost the will to fight is very vulnerable and manageable.

After that that woman dangles a nice piece of carrot in front of the remaining members of Mars, the distract them from the fact that Thame is out there, alone. She put the remaining members on to other interest, effectively eliminating any chance of regrouping. coming back to get Thame. She was hell bend on getting Thame away from the band, to Korea and she got her way! Even though Thame said multiple times he did not want to do it (alone)!

Agreed the Time Jump and the break up were just ridiculous. I always find it so unbelievably when the production team makes these decisions, like the close friends aren’t going to talk about their close friends? The characters don’t meet at shared events (birthdays, fitting for the wedding, rehearsal etc?). I sometimes feel like writers don’t know how they want/need to end a series, so they do these break ups about simple misunderstandings or these time jumps for dramatic effect. So they can than wrap the story in a nice little bow, which is sometimes so annoying because life doesn’t work like that.

I haven’t finished Our Youth, honestly after the dead fish kiss in episode 2 I never went back. But maybe I should.

I feel more and more like gmmtv is just getting lazy about their series, the series that are being put out are subpar, the directors are lazy and constantly do the same trick they have done for years (New), screenwriters seem to lack creativity. Problems with sound and video, or scenes being filmed with weird and odd camera angles. Gmmtv needs to hire some good directors instead of contracting one after another actor. But yes I agree that GMMTv can’t seem to make it realistic.

Agreed. I have said it multiple times during the past episodes, Mars needs to find a company who will support their wants and needs. Who protects them from potential fall out if something comes to light, and not have a management throw one of its members in front to de-escalate the situation. And who wants the group to thrive instead of actively trying to pull them apart.

She is so focused on making money short term that she doesn’t look at the long term possibility. She doesn’t care that she send one of her artist to a country under probably a excruciating hard contract (seeing how K-pop industry handles their artist), where he probably barely speaks the language, but most importantly without any support.

As for Po, I kind of get it, some say it was bound to happen. But I can’t help but feel a bit disappointed at Po for what felt like giving up to easily.

I definitely see her do it, she is so hell bend on having Thame go to Korea alone. I personally do not get it, she is hammering him on changing the industry etc, but she doesn’t for a moment think about what Thame wants or needs.

In 10 liners the mother didn’t deserve a redemption arc, every viewer agreed on that, yet it was given to her. Because somehow GMMTV wants to wrap everything in a neat little bow. I think better prepare for the redemption arc, the more happy you are if it’s not going to happen.

Especially that last part. Like when a couple has been apart for years, those screenwriters and directors act as if ‘characters’ don’t grow and change. They might not even have the same interest, likes, etc anymore, lol they might even be in a relationship or had relationships. To act as if they can just pick up where they left of, is for me just lazy writing.

Only time, I actually like time jumps is if I see what happens during those years, if characters for example still think of said person or are actively changing to better themselves. For example the heartkillers did it good, same with Unknown.

Speaking of Unknown, that has to be really the only series that took the whole time jump seriously. They did the time jump in ep 8, with still 4 episodes left. After Wei Zhi Yuan returns after 4/5 years, you can see how he’s not the same, how he is changed. Even though Yuan kept Qian up to date trough texts, Wei Qian realizes very fast that he doesn’t really know, his crush anymore. They tentatively start getting closer by just getting to know each other again. Thats the realistic part of the series. But then again it’s a Taiwanese series, they don’t really go wrong with BL series.

Every time I see that woman, I need to smother the urge to reach in my screen and strangle her. I absolutely loath her, the amount of times I said that I wished Mars would just leave that god damn company and find a company who actually supports and respects their wishes, instead of actively trying to break them up, is ridiculous. I know it’s probably not a possibility because of the contract fees, but really she is just so toxic. Only thinking about fast money instead of long term, Mars is popular, so why is she so hell bend on sending Thame to Korea alone, to a place he doesn’t want to go. Does she want Thame to be unhappy, to be depressed?

Agreed. Especially after Fuji finds Sei completely naked when he wanted to take a shower, Sei is literally begging him. You don’t tell me that anybody who had a crush on somebody, has said person begging them to be sexual would actually reject, deny that. With Fuji his explanation it just doesn’t fit. It seems to be lazy writing, same with Fuji saying he didn’t know Sei liked him, seriously? I’m somewhat disappointed.

I still don’t get why 2gether is so hyped and loved. They had more chemistry and were touching more when they were faking the relationship, then when they actually were in a relationship and living together. It felt like two brothers living together than partners. And I didn’t need nc scenes, like those fans tend to say when you bring it up but hand holding, a hug or even a peck on the cheeks, really anything to make me believe they were a loving couple. I didn’t even start the second season.

Yes to all of it. These dead fish kisses as I like to call them is the reason I haven’t watched our youth, after episode 2. It always throws me out of the story and the feelings because it looks so fake and unappealing. You don’t kiss like that in real life, you might give a peck but full on kissing isn’t this stiff stance, with lips barely moving/touching.

Honestly I was expecting them to be passionately kissing because they yearned, longingly for each other. I felt disappointed and dissatisfied with the final episode.

That’s not because of the extra scenes what were given to Faifa or FaifaWine, but because New absolutely destroyed Perth his character compared to the book and both YothaGun their trauma were treated like a joke. Thats why PerthSanta fans are complaining!

Couldn’t agree more!

Some people have asked what will start airing after When It Rains It Poors ends. I think it’s going to be Secret Relationship, it starts on February 27th. It’s a South Korean series, probably is being aired on iQIYI.

Agreed! You should have seen the comment section from 10 liners when YothaGun storyline aired. Yotha is a very complicated character with a traumatic backstory. But the hate the character got for healing from that backstory, and protecting his love interest from certain hurts, was ridiculous. He was dubbed a ‘red flag’ because he was healing from trauma. People ask for a complicated character but once they got a complicated character they start complaining about their love story not going fast enough, etc.

I find it ridiculous really, the same thing happened with 4 minutes the series. People are hating it because it’s a highly complicated story, you need to pay attention and stay focused, if you want to understand it. It’s not an all straight forward, all fluff sort of storyline.

Agreed I kind of got a bit annoyed when Faifa showed up at the 10 liners party, he had a party next door with his friends. Why show up to something you weren’t really invited to. He couldn’t even give Wine a few minutes to be alone and let him breathe, I personally would feel so suffocated by such a person.

When exactly had Yotha time to bond with Wine before Faifa jumped between them. Saying Yotha isn’t an ideal peer mentor after not even one moment between them is in my opinion reaching, I’m sorry to say it like that. But you can clearly see Yotha is trying and protective of Wine.

Yeah I found Arc problematic in the beginning, but from what I can remember (mind you that was 3/4 months ago), Arc changes somewhat.

Like I said I’m hoping it gets better the next few episodes, I’m not abandoning this series or hating on Faifa. I’m just not feeling them or connecting with them, so far. The same way I couldn’t connect with KantBison in the heartkillers.