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Lol Wa kissed him back. Wa also didn’t tell his insecure boyfriend after getting back together with Klao, instead Wa just gaslighted Klao into agreeing with him that he needed to keep seeing Yotha. You can stay mad all you want, my opinion is Wa should have told him, even if he didn’t initiate it! We can agree to disagree.

All these people here being mad at Yotha, all the while Wa hasn’t said a thing about the kiss to Klao! You know the guy who actually is in a relationship, the guy who happily kissed Yotha back instead of pushing him away! But sure let’s all be mad at the guy who is actively trying to change and deal with his trauma, oh right, the trauma that the lovely dude who kissed him back mostly caused!

Agreed! Also I hear nobody calling out Wa, who in fact hasn’t told Klao about Yotha kissing him. The guy who is actually in a relationship and who kissed Yotha back instead of pushing him away. But I guess it’s so easy to be mad at the guy who has trauma and is trying to figure it all out. Who is trying to change but also doesn’t want to lose his safe place (which is Gun). Yotha is showing commitment issues which seeing his past is very much understandable. Yotha isn’t black of white, he is grey. Instead of only judging his actions how about wondering why he’s doing those things. I personally love Yotha and can very much relate to him. Love isn’t easy, it can be very messy. I rather have Yotha hurt Gun now a little, by making sure what he is actually feeling is in fact love. Than jumping into a relationship and hurting Gun even more down the line if it turns out not to be love.

It’s not about it being boring because it isn’t, it’s about this love triangle. The whole Jun trying to help Po (for which he didn’t ask for) by trying to make Thame jealous thing, which just bugs and annoys me. Because Jun is also making Po feel so uncomfortable by it all. It’s just all so unnecessary, and so childish, we did those things in high school, not when you’re getting older and mature.

There are parts about ep 6 that I did like but those were mostly the mature moments in the series, Thame and Pepper talking about the struggles of having a relationship while being an idol, Pepper inviting his GF over to meet the other guys from the band. Thame and Po walking back and forth from the bus station to Po his house.

Honestly this episode frustrated me to no end. I loved the first 4/5 episodes, it was all about maturity, about finding your voice, talking about insecurities and hurts. But these last 2 episodes it’s becoming so childish and immature, the whole love triangle is unnecessary. Wasn’t this supposed to be a mature adult series, or did I miss the memo where we are getting a high school antics series?

I also question where the communication between Thame, Po and Jun has disappeared to, Po is clearly being very uncomfortable by what Jun is doing and doesn’t open his mouth about it. Jun has clearly alternative motives, what those are no idea. And Thame is questioning if Po even still wants to hang out with him but again doesn’t communicate any of it.

We are half way through this series and it’s just one big chaos, where we ended last episode with such a sweet scene between Thame and Po, this episode feels like we are doing 2 steps backwards! I won’t be suprised if after this episode (or the next) that people are starting to drop this show!

Yeah this is how I feel. We had a beautiful and mature first 5 episodes and episode 6 felt as if we were back at high school and kids are trying to make their crushes jealous by hitting on another person. Where is the communication between them all. This is getting ridiculous!

Louder!

What makes you think the ex is still alive? I’m pretty sure that either Lily killed him or offered him a lot of money to disappear.

louder!

God all of this and more. You have said into words what I have been thinking this whole time. It pissed me of how fast Fai dropped Yotha, his own brother. It pissed me of that he easily agreed to Gun his requests of switching rooms. It pissed me of when he acted all high and mighty towards Yotha about Gun, but not even realizing how much Yotha is actually doing for Gun and trying to change for him. It pissed me off that non of the friends (that includes Fai) were in Yoth his corner, nobody tried to defend him. They were all so quick to protect Gun and not let Yotha anywhere near him. All the while Yotha is again completely alone, with nobody to rely on or find support. To the point that Yotha had to go to Arm to get Gun to talk to him. Both brother just seem so uninterested in Yotha and learning how Yotha is, or why he is like that.

All of this, people saying well they were at tge talking stage. I mean yes talking and they shared a couple of kisses, but neither have said anything about dating/being in a relationship.

Thank you for saying that, I’m out 6 years and I’ve been doing loads better. Therapy did help a lot, but even with therapy there are still certain triggers, that I’ll probably never loose again.

Off-topic but after I left my abusive ex fiancé, I went to therapy for the ptsd/trauma I had. But I still found new triggers or trauma when I was with somebody healthy, because you can only do so much alone. I for example found triggers when my new partner and I had fights or heated discussions, things I for example needed to learn or unlearn, or things I reacted badly on. Those things I never would have found out if I stayed single. I think if you have bagage then it’s on you to heal and not make it your partners problems. You can find support with your partner but you can’t expect them to fix you. I think Yotha so far has done a lot to try and change for Gun but healing isn’t something that happens overnight. Sometimes you make some big mistakes, only thing you can do is apologize to those you have wronged, learn from it and never do it again.

Finally somebody said it. It pissed me off how fast Faifa agreed to Gun moving rooms. And he pissed me even more off by saying all these things to Yotha. All this time Yotha has been alone, you also see that back when Gun his friends surround Gun and that is including Fai, and not let Yotha talk to Gun. Yotha has nobody in his corner, not even family. But he again tries to open up and lower his walls by asking help from Arm. Yotha is trying so hard to change for Gun, but with the mother showing up I can imagine it triggered some feelings inside him. Also both Fai and New saying things like “she is our mother”, doesn’t help Yotha, it makes him feel even less heard or understood. I just feel like Yotha hasn’t had any healthy role model growing up. Newton and Warich are both lousy people. I hated how Newton began talking about Yotha being traumatized when he had just met Gun, like dude that’s not your story to tell! But like you said at least Warich was there for him.

Louder please!

I agree. I hated how both Newton and Fai kept going on about that woman being there mother. What mother cannot know the difference between her children? (The milk allergy) What mother sends her own child back because she starting to have a new family. Yotha has every right to not want to see, speak or call her mother. Seems to me like her request for Fai and Yotha to visit was more for her benefits.

Gun didn’t accept the kiss nor did he forgive Yotha. You can very clearly see the difference in kisses before and this last one in which Gun didn’t reciprocated it. Also him immediately leaving the bed to want to walk along the beach is also an indicator that he is not alright with it. The fact that he stopped and asked Yotha to go with him is probably a way for him to invite Yotha to talk with him. In the preview for next week we see him and Yotha walking in the same clothes along the beach. It seems to me that we are getting the talk in the next episode!

I do agree with you that the kiss between Yotha and Wa was unnecessary and if the writers wanted to use it, to show Gun that Wa and Yotha were a couple before, they could have done this differently. From what I understand this kiss didn’t happen in the books.

But didn’t Vee notice instantly that Mark was seeing the kiss? Or am I wrong, it’s been a while since I seen the series. Yotha doesn’t know Gun saw the kiss because Gun has not yet communicated to Yotha that he saw it (though that doesn’t make it right). We also shouldn’t forget that Gun has his own trauma and doesn’t like conflict. Maybe like he said to Fai he feels like he can’t bring it up or demand an explanation because they aren’t together.

All of this!

Because they do not understand his character. They do not understand that a lot of the things he is doing, is driven by the trauma he has. Said trauma which was triggered by the mother showing up. They see things and instantly judge and write a character off instead of looking further at was lies underneath. It’s the same people who scream cheater in the comments under the series When it Rains it Poors.

Clearly I wasted my time on you! You asked the questions. I answered them!