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Saying I can’t give you what you need isn’t clearly, that’s vague. What is that Fuji cant give him? A family? Sex? Kids? Marriage? Intimacy? Sleeping together in one bed? Being taken care of? Money? I do not know if Fuji explained it further because they don’t show me that, so i have to go on with what I am being shown. So in my opinion based on what the series showed me so far, I don’t think Sei knew what the terms were and what he was agreeing to. But we can agree to disagree about that.

I do agree with you that Both Sei and Hagi could have communicated their wants and needs to their partners. I also agree that they could have an open relationship, but I think neither partner would agree to it. I think Fuji is way to possessive for it, he gets jealous if Sei only mentioned he is emailing with a coworker. And Shino (gf) seems to give the pretends to the outside world that everything is fine between them. Being in a open relationship, means she has to acknowledge that there is something not fine between them.

It seems like Shino (the gf) is only affectionate when there are other people around (the arms around the neck) or if she has needs (the hug before she went to work in the previous episode). Anytime Hagi initiated contact she barely tolates it or finds whimsical excuses for her to leave.

Saying I can’t give you what you need isn’t clearly, that’s vague. What is that Fuji cant give him? A family? Sex? Kids? Marriage? Intimacy? Sleeping together in one bed? Being taken care of? Money? We do not know if Fuji explained it further because they don’t show us that, so we have to go on what we are being shown.

You found their rejection gentle? I could only find them cruel.

So somewhere above this thread I posted a review similar to my reaction to you. In which I added some things. I said - after the part where Fuji said “i can’t give you what you need” - I’m sorry but that’s not how you communicate that, because it’s vague as hell. You explain to said person what exactly you can’t give, so that expectations can be amended, expressed or met. Also if Fuji had explained it clearly, Sei probably wouldn’t even have asked sex of Fuji because he knew how he felt/thought about it. I do agree Sei also could have asked or communicated, maybe I’m wrong but it seems like Fuji proposed said deal sometime after Sei his parents died, maybe he wasn’t in the right mindset.

I do agree with you that it is weird for Fuji to act all controlling, possessive and jealous around Sei. Fuji is already isolating and controlling Sei so much and making Sei depended on him, in that way I definitely see the abuse of which you are speaking. Deliberately denying a person sexually without giving him any sort of outlet is also abusive and controlling.

If and that is a big if because we do not know enough about Fuji, if he is asexual, its fine to be in a sexless relationship, if your partner also agreed and feels the same. If not you’ll always have somebody whose needs aren’t met, which will lead to frustration. An outlet could be to open up the relationship, with “rules and boundaries”, but seeing how possessive Fuji is about Sei, I do not see that happening.

For the relationship part you could say they are in a relationship because they agreed to it, though they act more like roommates (more like Sei is Fuji dirty little secret, because I do not see them meet each other outside of the apartment). If it’s a romantic relationship I question because so far I haven’t seen anything romantic happen between them. Fuji does try to take care of Sei in his way, they seem to be friends before.

I wouldn’t be suprised that after his parents died he is/was traumatized and has/had survivors guilt. He probably was very vulnerable, felt like a burden, scared to be alone, and here is his friend who wants to take care of him, stay with him “forever”. That must have sounded like a good deal. But I think overtime that guilt and trauma started to eat at him, combined with constantly being rejected. Only getting support the way Fuji could give instead of sometimes a hug or a hand to hold, might also made things worse, words can only do so much. But I’m speculating and putting my own experiences in those speculations.

I found both partners quite cruel in this episode.

With Shino (gf) pretending to be intimate/touchy with Hagi when they are around the friends, pretending everything is alright. The arms around the neck, felt the same way, the hug (also initiated by her) felt in ep 1. That she only did it for herself, the hug was because of her needs. Same as the arms around the neck, it felt like she needed to look good in front of the friends. I question why she had the door open while she was showering, was it just another way to antagonize Hagi? Was her hope to have Hagi come on to her once more, so she could reject him?

And in today’s episode Fuji practically flees from Sei - the moment Sei mentioned wanting to have sex - which is such a cruel rejection!

Fuji can’t even explain it properly when he proposes his “business” deal to Sei, he disguises it with “I can’t give you what you might need”. I’m sorry, but that is not how you communicate that, because it is vague as hell. You explain to said person what exactly you can’t give so that expectations can be amended, expressed or met.

I don’t understand why people tend to act so prudish when it comes to talking about sex. It is normal to want to talk about your wants and needs. It should be just as normal to say hey I don’t feel it lately, or hey it’s been a while, what’s going on.

As for Fuji, yeah maybe he is Asexual or maybe he has trauma, but that is no reason to be that cruel to his partner. To the point that Sei is blaming himself and consequently thinks he is the problem. If Fuji had actually talked about it and explained things cleaely, Sei wouldn’t be questioning himself. Sei probably wouldn’t even have asked sex of Fuji.

I found both partners quite cruel in this episode.

With Shino (gf) pretending to be intimate/touchy with Hagi when they are around the friends, pretending everything is alright. The arms around the neck, felt the same way, the hug (also initiated by her) felt in ep 1.
That she only did it for herself, the hug was because of her needs. Same as the arms around the neck, it felt like she needed to look good in front of the friends. I question why she had the door open while she was showering, was it just another way to antagonize Hagi? Was her hope to have Hagi come on to her once more, so she could reject him?

And Fuji can’t even explain it properly when he proses his “business” deal to Sei, he disguises it with “I can’t give you what you might need”. And he practically flees from Sei the moment he mentioned it, which is such a cruel rejection!

I don’t understand why people tend to act so prudish when it comes to talking about sex. It is normal to want to talk about your wants and needs. It should be just as normal to say hey I don’t feel it lately, or hey it’s been a while, what’s going on.

As for Fuji, yeah maybe he is Asexual or maybe he has trauma, but that is no reason to be that cruel to his partner. To the point that Sei is blaming himself and consequently thinks he is the problem. If Fuji had actually talked about it and cleared things up, Sei wouldn’t be questioning himself.

I have to agree with you that both partners seem to be somewhat abusive towards their partners. Maybe not intentionally from Fuji his side but it is there.

Right?! And he’s not giving that lecture to Pepper who is actually dating, who is going against the whole idols can’t date thing. I would have believed it was Thame his protection if he talked to Pepper the same way.

This feels more like a guy who is jealous and wants to create discord between Thame and Po. I’m not looking forward to next week, I agree with you that it feels like he’s setting up Po for something. I feel more and more that Jun is just ignoring the hints that are being given by him people. The amount of uncomfortableness from Po is palpable, Jun should have noticed it by now. The fact that he was constantly flirting with the GF of pepper (forgot the name), I can’t imagine she didn’t say something to him about it.

I wouldn’t be suprised if it turns out that he actually likes Po.

Hé is the only thing I do not really like. Leave Po and Thame alone. Saying things like this is why you and Thame don’t work, like dude that would mean it also can’t for you. I don’t like how he’s trying to come between Thame and Po, just let them be. And take a hint, Po is uncomfortable!

Agreed. Though when I heard Thame his words to Po the first thing I thought was, Jikes that’s gonna be misinterpreted. Glad Pepper said seconds later what I was thinking.

It’s because of JohanNorth their story that I’ll score this a 7,5 maybe an 8. If it was more episodes with HillTer or only them, I would’ve scored them a 5. And my lowest what I ever scored was a 6,5. I’m the end I couldn’t stand Hill or Ter anymore. Honestly even seeing Hill in episode 16 got me annoyed. That couple could have rapped their story up in 6 maybe 7 episodes. Not 13! which in ep 12 or 13 they had 34 minutes of flashbacks, which were just ridiculous!

The author said that how Santa acted out Gun, was like Gun had come straight out of the book, she wrote.

So maybe it’s just you who doesn’t like that sort of character. Or you are either still hung up on the PerthSaint ship. You can have your opinions but to say Santa can’t act, is just far reaching! And you know, if it’s gives you such ick, why keep watching? Not every show is meant for you.

Agreed to all of it. I felt like I needed to take a shower and rub my skin raw. And the way she did it out in the open but in front of the owner of the hotel and he didn’t seem to care/mind, is just brrr. Also her fixation on Sangmin who is a paying customer, a VIP no less 🤢🤮

Yeah No episode 3 was not funny, it was disgusting! What Poppy (the manager) was doing is/was sexual harassment, and the owner who just stood by and watched while she groped and sniffed was equally disturbing. Not to mention that she tried to do the same with a paying guest!

This whole episode was just so different from the first 2 episodes, where the first two episodes were funny, lighthearted and just fun to watch at, this episode was completely the opposite. And before people start about me being prudish or what so ever, I didn’t mind the nc scenes, even though they felt so random. It’s the whole mindset of a person thinking they are allowed to touch people because they are higher or older then other people. I have a problem with the fact that of it was a male manager who did that to his female younger staff, he would have been fired a long time ago, possibly even arrested for SA.

And it was clear as daylight that that hotel owner was behind Dinneaw getting fired, he comes a cross as a guy who can’t accept no for an answer and just uses money or force to get his way. I hope to god we only get one more episode in that hotel and then go back to the homestead.

I would like to see more of the 2 couples, who had barely any screen time in this episode.

Yes I was talking about the shower scene, which was just so beautiful. I have rarely if ever seen a couple smile or laugh during a sex scene. But I think that’s what made it beautiful for me, it seems very realistic. Sex isn’t always serious, it can have sparks of mischievousness, like how SP decided nope we are going showering together, I’m not waiting another moment. But I also liked the scene with ZX in the closet and SP having him in his lap, and the scene after the credits of them. They just made it seem so natural, so relaxed and fun, which is what sex can be.

I agree with your point about those comments in series that it hurt. Like are these men all just so inpatient to not take it easy and slow? About your comment where you like to see a couple be versatile, there was a recent one out of Thailand which is called, Every You, Every Me, it was a 8 episode series and during ep 6 the top said “Do you want to switch positions next time”, he says it twice during different scenes. But I do agree it would be nice to have series where the couples actually switch. It would hopefully stop some of the misconceptions bl fans seem to have.

About the inappropriate stuff, I mean I have seen enough negative reactions on Mdl. If it’s for example for unknown or the onl1y one, which in both stepbrothers are having feelings for one another. Or a k-drama called Goblin, in which a goblin falls in love with a girl who is 19 (or 29, depends on what part of the series you are watching) and the goblin is over 900 years old, there the comments where also not mild, because of the age gaps. Personally I wonder if those people can actually see the difference between fiction/fantasy and real life.

Louder please! especially the part about we are going to find out eventually if there is a parallel world or not. Like 2 episodes in and all the reactions above yours are all about well Jin is knowing things so it must mean there is no alternative world, it’s probably just Chi stalking Phu. Like for crying out loud we are only 2 episodes in. Not a moment somebody thinks hey maybe Jin just thinks that what Chi is doing is some plot to get to Phu. And that’s why he saying You should tell the truth.

Not everything has to be unraveled the minute after the series starts. It was the same with Hidden Moon. So many people knew exactly how everything worked by the second or third episode and they stopped watching because the story was boring or predictable.

Just be patient and if you don’t have the patience for it, go read the book it’s about!

The scene start at 45:50 after the me mind logo, before the preview of the next episode is shown. It’s the same as how they showed a extra scene in LITA.

Did you see the end scene, after the me Mindy logo? It shows a Chi hiding behind a Pilar when Phu retrieved the cup. He was berating himself about how he should’ve talked to him. The Chi from Phu’s world seems very shy and hesitant.

The gasp I let out 😱I was so not expecting a kiss in today’s episode.

Newton is the older brother of Yotha and Faifa, you see him mostly in the bar. He was the guy who is ep 11 barged into the room when Yotha and Gun were there. He is also the one who told Gun about Yotha being traumatized.