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Sure get an super vulnerable guy to accept a deal just after his parents died in front of him, because he had absolutely nobody! You think Sei was even emotionally present or understanding what that “business deal” ment in the long term? Do you even read how cruel that sounds? I’ll stay with you forever, you can’t have anybody else. I won’t give you a relationship, date or marriage but I’ll stay with you forever! I don’t care about your wants and needs just only what I need and like. Sei doesn’t agree with that business deal anymore and he tries to communicate that with Fuji but Fuji being scared to loose control over Sei, just flees the room every time Sei brings it up. I call him how I see it, you might not think it’s fair but I think it’s totally fine. If you really think the behavior, Fuji showed in the preview of the next episode, is fine, then I don’t know what to tell you!

Seriously? Did you not get the part where the old schoolmate of Sei saw him and said to him that “back then Fuji was like your spokesman, I asked Fuji to tell you to contact me when things got better”. Sei clearly did not know this. You seriously think the toe thing was because of Fuji wanting Sei to communicate more? The guy has been communicating with Fuji constantly. It’s Fuji who runs away from serious conversations! Also just because he showed concern for his roommate doesn’t mean he is less abusive or controlling. If I heard a crash out of one of the rooms I would have checked also. You conveniently forget the part that came after, the absolute cruel rejection by Fuji. He didn’t just say anything but he physically fled the bathroom, leaving a devastating Sei behind! You forget how possessive and jealous Fuji acted when he heard that Sei was talking with a guy from work, to the point that Sei asked him “do you want me to stop talking with him?”, that is not normal behavior!

Just because you can’t see it and believe that maybe he isn’t that bad, doesn’t mean others don’t see it for what it is!

Probably spite, what was the reason she broke Sei his present for Hagi? The weather bulb. Or she took it with her to show her parents. Or a way for him not to contact her?

Lol, you say the guy who is abusive, neglectful, controlling and just an ass to Sei is actually loving him? Only thing he loves is the control he has on Sei. You are seriously saying you don’t see his behavior towards Sei as bad? The guy who pinched, squeezed the toe to see if it hurts? Not just softly touched it like Hagi did but actually pinching, squeezing it! The guy who doesn’t even alow a tv in his house, or allows Sei to have friends and isolated him? The guy who rejects Sei time and time again? Who has Sei so depended on him? Are you somebody who says to a abusive victim, just accept it because he/she took care of them?

You see Kaori as toxic but Fuji according to you is what? Just a loving respectful guy?

You don’t? I think the series made it pretty clear!

From what I remember it wasn’t her gift. It was a gift for Hagi, she destroyed. So it wasn’t something she owned, it was Hagi who owned it.

Agreed! As if cheating is the worst thing you can do to your partner, please don’t make me laugh! Both guys have been tortured and abused by their roommates, any emotional and physical support they needed was denied, time and time again. It’s not just sex Fuji and Kaori with held from them, it’s any sort of physical contact or affection. No hugs (I do not count that half ass hug Kaori gave Hagi in ep 2), no hand holding, no kiss on the cheek. They tortured the guys to the point that both think they are gross, dirty, ashamed for having wants and needs. Those thoughts and that image of themselves is going to be with them a lot longer than any the supposed impact of the “cheating” is going to be.

It’s laughable how people are so focused on the “cheating” but forget or rather ignore everything the roommates did to them. Above reaction is the same, so focused on making the guys the bad guys and oh poor little Kaori, she didn’t deserve that. Did Hagi deserve to be talked about behind his back? Or to made feel worthless, disgusting, dirty, ashamed? Both guys did not deserve to be neglected like this!

Can you explain what the SJW code is you are talking about, my brain is not braining at the moment.

I’m done talking to you. You clearly do not understand what I was saying nor read my comment thoroughly!

Thank you for saying this.

I personally had a really hard time ending my very toxic and abusive relationship because of those crumbs you speak off. 4 year before I ended my relationship I already knew I wasn’t in a healthy relationship but I was so depended on him and thought I wouldn’t make it on my own. In the end I stayed 11 years (way to long) I think Sei has that sane feeling, after his parents death only Fuji was there for him, taking care of him. So with how fragile he mentally is I can imagine he has a hard time leaving/standing up for himself etc. I personally agree with you that they do not have to say sorry. They were treated horribly by their friend/partner.

You don’t even know it’s a loss of sex drive for Kaori, because she does not communicate it! For you it’s to extreme, for me it’s just right. She has been stringing that guy along for a year, not 2 months, a year! Thats twelve freaking months of just nothing! These episodes she has been nothing but cruel towards Hagi, she’s been neglecting him. Yet she expects him to wait for her like a lost puppy. So yes to me she absolutely deserves that title! How exactly am I shaming Kaori? I personally don’t give a crab about her losing her sex drive, because for all I know she still has her sex drive, just not for Hagi and has found some piece on the side? We do not know anything about her or Fuji, because again they do not communicate!

Fuji isnt Sei his partner! That you do not see it as controlling doesn’t mean I or others feel the same! Numerous people (including me) during these episodes have said that Fuji is abusive, isolating and controlling of Sei. Him having Sei his phone and picking up the phone is just another example! I for one do not accept my partners picking up my phone, if it’s important it will go to voicemail or they can message me. My phone is for me, and me alone! Either one is wrong, it’s not one is more wrong than the other.

Lol and what exactly of the “correct way”? Communicating with their people? Guess what they tried that, multiple times! Breaking up with their partner? How exactly are they supposed to do that when they are constantly being shut down or rejected.

In my post I explicitly said for me their relationship ended the moment Kaori started not communicating and keeping Hagi in the dark. For me that is cheating, she purposely kept her partner from her feelings, thoughts, wants and needs. I don’t give a flying f*ck about the physical aspect of it. She wasn’t open about it, she lied multiple times by omitting the truth. Again this is my point of view.

I can’t be the only one who thinks that frigid bitch kind of deserved it. Like you could have expected it to happen, you turned cold to him and he accepted it for more than a year. If you keep pushing a person at some point, they are going to snap and say enough. Also not cool how she broke Sei his bulb present for Hagi. Maybe if you finally had explained things to your partner instead of to a friend of yours, this wouldn’t have happened. But than again play stupid games, win stupid prizes!

Her excuse of Hagi being masculine was clearly bs, he was anything but that, during the nc scene with Sei, and I feel like Hagi would have been the same with Kaori. He was tender, sweet, caring, etc.

So for Fuji, Fuji has no right to be angry, they aren’t even partners, roommates at best. Or is he afraid that he is going to loose that control over Sei, now that somebody else is giving him attention. Also why does he have Sei his phone, why is he even picking up the phone. It all feels so controlling and abusive, like all the things Sei isnt allowed to do or has to give up to be Fuji’s roommate.

Also for all the holier than thou people, cheating is different for everybody. For most it’s sex, for other it’s kissing, or liking post on social media. For me the relationship between Hagi and Kaori was over the moment she didn’t communicate with him, and kept him in the dark for a whole freaking year! The relationship has been over, they just haven’t said it out loud yet.

This episode was heartbreaking, the invisible wall that emerged the morning after, how they both took a bed to eat. The same way the glass doors was there to symbolize the enormous gap between them. Or the comparison with how tender Hagi was with Sei his toe compared to the roughness and lack of compassion from Fuji. The way Sei tried to close himself off from Fuji, yet letting slip some very tender and emotional moments.

It’s going to be another week of waiting, personally of all the bl series currently airing this one I anticipate the most during the week.

I love how realistic and interesting this series is.

How exactly are you expecting them to communicate when both partner and roommate shut down every conversation about it?

I also want to say that cheating is for everybody differently, for you cheating might be when people who are in a relationship have sex with others. For some it’s kissing and some even say liking a post is cheating.

You say cheating is cruel, I find what both Fuji and Kaori do far more crueler, abusive even. What about everything Kaori and Fuji have done towards the guys. They both loath and hate themselves, they feel ashamed for having needs. What do you think that rejection every time is doing to them?

You can get all mad at Hagi and Sei but what about their partner/friend/roommata. Kaori also could have sat Hagi down and explained it to him, or even broke up with him. Instead she let him question everything about himself because of her actions! You are seeing things very black and white which is fine, but don’t get mad at the people who can see the grey and sympathize with the guys! I do wonder why you watch this series?

Are we watching the same series? Because she is is the cruel one here, she doesn’t communicate and keeps her partner in the dark. Only poor one is her partner who is patiently waiting for her and respecting her boundaries!

Im sorry, I read that completly wrong. Just ignore my comment😉

No it isn’t. Episode 17 is when Faifa and Wine their story begins. So we have one more episode.

I do agree, though the mother from Uea (bed friends) shares that first place, im afraid. She was such a cold hearted b*tch. I agree with you that we do not need any flashbacks, but knowing Mame we probably will see some of it. Or there will be something coming, she doesn’t really shy away from traumatizing scenes.

It’s because each couple has 8/9 episodes and GMMTV is known to wrap everything in a neat little bow. I found Gun healing from his trauma, afraid of the light rushed. But like I said its GMMTV and the writers.

For me after I found a healthy relationship it did help a bit. Because you can do a lot alone, but I found out that only when you are in a relationship are you going to know certain triggers. Like for me the 50 or so disagreements/fights were very stressful, because I was so used to being screamed at or cussed out, so that’s what you are expecting. Or just certain behaviors that instantly set me on high alert. while those behaviors aren’t necessarily wrong, the actions that tended to follow were wrong. It can help but in most instances therapy is still needed. New healthy relationships aren’t a cure but they do help with healing. I don’t know if you understand what I mean, because I find myself being very vague.

I really loved this episode, there were some moments stood out for me. For example:
Yotha helping Gun with his fears and trauma was definitely one of them. Even though I do think they moved quite fast with his trauma, it’s probably the writers from GMMTV. Yotha becoming a beacon of light with his yellow pjs in Gun his nightmare. Yotha his patience when he thinks that Gun woke up after a nightmare. Gun being happy they get to eat out of the room and them sharing the food together. How happy and lovable Gun his family is towards him and later Yotha.

I like how they took the time to get to know them, even if the ending made it feel a bit rushed. I liked Yotha saying he was brave enough to love Gun. That shows that yes he is still scared but doesn’t want to loose Gun and wants to risk getting hurt in the possible future for him.

I’m glad Yotha does realize that he made Gun less shiny and sad a couple of times, and also again apologized for it.

I didn’t really get why those guys were trying to beat up Klao, was it because he helped Yotha? Klao and Wa their scenes felt somewhat off, it felt like we missed some scenes.

Saw the preview of the next episode and honestly I just hope that for once the storyline doesn’t have those whole let’s forgive toxic parents in it. I know it’s a different culture and different values, but children/teens/adult don’t have to accept or forgive lousy parents.

But then again it’s GMMTV and they usually tend to give parents this unrealistic 180 turn in their character, so that they then can talk it out with the children. Somehow all the neglect, abuse, control, manipulations and guilt trips are all magically solved and forgotten.