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I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to him there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major trust issues, so the fact that he had let down that many guards for White told Black that it was gonna take a lot to get them away from each other.

As for why, he's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex).

I think he knows there's 2 of them - but he doesn't know how to differentiate between them. And perhaps the fact that Black went to Sean's secret spot made him think this was for sure White? But yea, he's not as caught-on and smart as the past few episodes led me to think he was. I mean, i thought the rope marks, the button, and the request were things he was gonna use to check - but he didnt use any of that.

I think he knows to an extent, but doesn't know how to differentiate between the 2 (after all, he wouldn't know it was White the entire time or if they switched off and on). But yea, definitely not as caught-on and smart as i thought he was at this point - so a little disappointed.

Well theres 14 episodes, instead of the usual 12 - so the curse would be in episode 13 if it happens. But i think there's enough nonromantic plot that they might escape it.

Does anyone know the song in episode 3? Near the end when theyre walking on the bridge?

I came to the reviews to find out if this was one of those dramas where she winds up with the one that appears to be presented as second male lead. Im very disappointed that its not - but im glad to hear it so that i dont continue. I got through almost halfway into 3rd episode before i finally had enough with the ML.

Like my biggest gripes are:
1.) Not why did they set up an arranged marriage (it's was explained pretty well, and it's more or less the same logic that always applies to this trope, except now its 2 boys). And not why Hia is going along with it. But rather, what made Kuea be so in love with Hia in the first place, it seems like Hia has been cold to him for years, and Kuea doesn't think he'd accept him how he is - so why is he so deadset on this? And why did Hia's parents suddenly get on board when they seemed so hesitant when they brought it up? And how come it was more or less forgotten about it seems like until right before the grandfather died?

2.) Are we actually gonna see any scenes where Kuea is in an aristocrat role? Because currently it seems like Hia has more prestige and reputation - not to mention Kuea isn't even majoring in anything related to his aristocrat duties, but yet, he's an only son. Are his parents planning on have Hia take over his duties as a son-in-law? Like is his aristocrat status just plot armor to defend him having expensive hobbies?

3.) If Kuea is going to reveal his double identity next episode like the preview shows, what on earth (i do wish we had that italics feature), is the main plot conflict gonna be? The main character conflict is obvious Kuea getting comfortable being himself around Hia, and Hia actually falling in love with him. But come on, a whole plot propulsion focused on forced cohabitation, amongst fiances and childhood friends - sounds like there's gonna be some soap opera twist, or this is gonna be pretty slow and/or comedy centered.

4.) I really really hope that it gets acknowledged how incredibly toxic Diao and Hia Yi's relationship is. Because that's just a giant red flag. But perhaps this will be where all the time goes that would have went to more complex plot conflict? Will we perhaps see a side couple with enough air time to satisfy their sideplot?

The engagement wasn't made until they did the string and blessings thing. You can see Hia's parents being hesitant when it was brought up - so it wasn't agreed to beforehand. The only thing established when Kuea was a baby was that they would be raised together and Hia would need to take care of him.

Saint's role in Love By Chance was fairly innocent and naive and trusting - i wouldn't associate those as being traits of an Aristocat's son. Polite or no. Was his behavior with the waitresses in bad taste, yes. Absolutely. But living abroad in England, from what he was talking to Diao about - he wasn't being an aristocrat. He was being a bar musician and motorbike racer. Not exactly the most well-mannered bunch. And again, he was cracking under the pressure of not being able to be himself, as any sane person would - i don't think this is indicative of his larger capabilities of portraying an aristocrat's mannerisms.

And according to his classmates, he is keeping his major a secret (or at least he's thinking he is - i doubt Hia doesn't know). Plus, a google search easily shows several US colleges that offer automotive systems technology, automotive engineering, etc under a larger Engineering program - so it's far from unheard of. It could be an applied specialization, or an elective class. (I say US here, because that is where I am located in, so that is what my results are gonna be geared towards. I'm sure it's not unheard of elsewhere as well).

And another Hia theory that's being built is that Hia is attending to these issues in part to force Kuea's hand in to drop is facade (bc Hia seems to definitely be on to the facade). And even if not, if a factory made a big mess up where it would impact the rest of production - a CEO would need to come up with a quick strategy, no? I think we shouldn't be deciding whether he acts like a CEO or not considering we have 0 details as to what the issue was - or even if it was a small factory.


I have many complaints with how this first episode has set up the main plot and side plots, but these are not among them. Because they seem pretty well established, and if not - then irrelevant. But everyone is entitled to their own things to be bothered by.

Well if you figure it out - let me know. I've been wracking my head as well.

Although, sometimes he does give off a vibe similar to the employee from Strong Woman Do Bong Soon

I need more imagined outbursts. I hope its not a one-and-done skit but stays through at least a few more episodes until Kuea stops putting up a front.

Yea, I think so too (and I thought so from the trailer as well). He said that he doesn't want to be married to a doll, but yet is fighting to keep the engagement on. He's never shown any fondness to Kuea since he returned, but yet is going to ask him to stay with him. He's very particular about his appointments, and being on time - but yet had a meeting with a business partner during their date.

Things aren't lining up, and I do think it's to try and get Kuea to reveal himself. Besides, he didn't seem surprised with the Kirin reveal.

I think what Hia Yi was saying in that scene wasn't that gay marriage isn't legally binding (in real-life it's not, but we don't know about in the storyworld yet), but rather that arranged marriages aren't.

But even if gay marriage isn't legally binding in this storyworld, it would still hold personal and familial meaning - so it would have an impact.

Kuea wants Hia to love him. He wants to marry for love. But he doesn't think Hia would love his rebellious side since Hia is so strict and business-minded.

Arranged marriage is not legally binding in Thailand - but their families arranged it because they were giving in to Kuea's whims and trusted that Hia would always take care of Kuea. In fact, Kuea was the first one to mention marriage in that scene - and his grandpa was kinda giving off a "whatever makes you happy" vibe despite up till then it seemed like just a promise to always be there for each other. But they did ask Hia repeatedly if he was doing it out of love - meaning they did want it to be out of love, and not just obligation.

But Hia feels indebted to the family (they helped his family gain status and wealth and opportunity, and treated him like a son), and responsible for Kuea (this kid that he's always been expected to take care of, and who recently went through a ginormous loss). So it's not out of love (yet), nor is it out of monetary gain - but rather out of a sense of responsibility (one that I don't think Kuea's family meant for him to feel).

I think perhaps the most currently well-known is Jennie Panhan (https://www.instagram.com/jennie_panhan/ ) - a GMMTV trans actress and host. She also does reactions on her YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTN2Ze0wCbZtBsrKwlddbWA ) with cohost P'Go/P'Koh (https://www.instagram.com/pplachigo/ ). But her reaction videos seem to be largely on GMMTV shows - which is only a subsidiary of GMM Grammy so I don't know if she would be able to do a reaction series of this show or not.

Yea, I've been noticing alot of BL shows really emphasizing gay marriage lately (and Not Me even included a petition in one of their episodes for citizens to sign) - I think it's to help persuade people to the cause.

And yea, I think it is a bit utopian mixed with traditional - this idea of an arranged marriage between two youngsters who are really fond of each other and can be with each other through thick-and-thin in the future. In other Asian media, we see this turn into a sworn brother situation if between two men, but they're doing an engagement (like they would if it was a woman and a man).

I wonder if the auto-mechanic work is like a specialization/concentration that he is taking. It is after all, what he's interested in. Also, engineering plots are very popular in Thai media, so I doubt they'd make such a ridiculous blunder. And I think the idea is that Hia is not like normal CEOs, he and his family worked themselves up to it - which I think is part of the reason Kuea is so upset with him. He keeps scheduling things on top of their dates when he could just as easily have other people take care of it. And if a factory did make such a ginormous error like it seems to be, especially if it was early in the chain of production - they would be on their radar.

And about Kuea - I think every single show with an aristocat/politician/etc family (and some real life families, if media can be believed) has someone who is like Kuea in mannerisms. For one, he's been away from his aristocratic duties for a long time. Two, that's his personality and his family seems to have always spoiled him in that regard (which is the reason the engagement came to be as well). And third, he's quite possessive of Hia - and he's starting to crack under the pressure of not being able to show it to Hia's face.

The reason for the engagement was a few things:
1.) Kuea's family were giving in to Kuea's whims - and they did keep checking in with Hia about whether he was doing it out of love for Kuea, indicating that on their end they wanted it to be out of love, even if arranged.
2.) But Hia always avoided that question - because he (at least right now) is in it because he feels indebted to the family for helping to make them have their social standing and opportunities, and responsible to Kuea as this kid he always had to look after.

So, i'm not sure where the confusion about the marriage plot is coming from - we spent a rather significant portion of this episode on it (perhaps even too much).

It's definitely not - for one thing, Thailand still hasn't legalized same-sex marriage yet. For another, it seems like arranged marriages have more or less fallen out of style in Thailand (especially in urban communities).

Same! And even if Hia found out quickly, i thought Kuea would still try to maintain his double identity - but it looks like he reveals it next episode. So it looks like the main driving trope will be forced cohabitation, rather than the double identity. A little different than what i was hoping for - but still looking forward to it.

Wow, Diao's relationship seems quite toxic. He's like a kept boy - and they're not even married. I get it, Hia Li would be upset about the lies, but still - to the point of keeping track of whether Diao's in school?! They need a dynamic shift just as much as the mains.

Due to the cultural significance of this show being centered around Kathoey individuals (not necessarily trans individuals) - i think it's important to prioritize THEIR voices and how they perceive this show. So everyone, please drop the socials of your favorite Thai Kathoey, Trans, Intersex, etc. celebs, creators, and reactors so we can pay attention to them and their responses as this show starts rolling out.