I've been surprised by the amount of hate Black has been getting (especially on tiktok), so I figured i'd put forward my character analysis for anyone who's having trouble understanding why he's like this with his brother.
Can anyone tell me if Sean knows that that's white or he kissed him because he thought it was black?
Sean has been suspicious of White (as Black) this entire time, thinking that this is a game to Black. Black broke his trust long before the events of this series (the getting suspended flashback) and Sean doesn't forgive. But he knows something's different here - White doesn't act like Black at all.
So Sean dug around in Black's apartment. And what did he find? Glasses. And contacts. Black has never needed these things. Plus these items are very expensive. Perhaps he may have even found White's ID as well off screen (he's certainly doing a thorough search, and why wouldn't he search his wallet; or even his ID from when he took the government test that would in theory be in the same bag). Combined with all the other behaviors that don't line up (and the ridiculous questions White would ask that Black would know). Sean has to know that White is not Black.
Then there's the conversation with Gumpa that gets cut off for us viewers. What other purpose would that conversation have? Especially since it's right after he leaves White.
Then there's the whole abandoned building bit, where he seems to be testing White and paying extra attention to him. -The "good at spying" line was clue number 1. No where in the series have we gotten any clues that White or Black are good at spying. This was an indirect jab/hint to White that he knows. - The way he pulled the bench up to window and helped White get through was also pretty telling. He has never showed this courtesy to him before, especially because Black would have been able to do it no problem. -White being winded from running up a flight of steps (something that is suggested to be very out of character for Black both in this scene and in the rooftop training scene a few episodes back) -watching how White reacts to being forced so close to Sean -tickling White (another thing that keeps getting suggested as being a new thing, but not so easy to suddenly appear) -the trust fall (Sean was just talking about how ridiculous the exercise was when White did it, besides he wouldn't trust Black to do that, Black has already let him "fall" before with that suspension flashback). -And then the kiss. I do believe there might be some history between Black and Sean. Something that made it where this test confirmed that White isn't Black. Either because Black would never have let him do that, or because they kiss different.
And then he didn't even blink when White asked if he would still like him if he wasn't Black - saying he's never known Black like this (basically saying he had no desire to be like this with the old Black).
I think him tying him up in the bed was his punishment to White for lying. Also probably a way to identify White (the markings on his wrist), as well as the ripped button and the unstated wish he wants from White. He's establishing ways to help him distinguish between the two. And I think the hug when White got off the phone was him realizing that circumstances are about to change.
And to everyone complaining about the fast pacing of SeanWhite, the director gave the following explanation as…
Yea, it made sense to me. 1.) They appear to have been attracted to each other for a while. But Sean held back because he was still figuring out if it was Black or not. Once he got definitive proof, he started letting his guard down. And White was scared of doing something as Black that would raise suspicions, and of the potential that Sean liked him because he was "Black" and not because of himself. 2.) Numerous studies have shown that adrenaline-inducing situations can really speed up bonding. And they've been in numerous life and death situations together.
I think it was meant to be an advert for that cologne
It's to build up hype for the couple because they'll be in My Secret Love together (which seems to have a pretty similar plot). This is important because they have never acted together and are the leads for the show - plus Earth already had a BL Partner - and some of the fandom can be pretty averse to changes in ships.
Is it this? 2min per episode?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Mwmta462g
Yes. 2-5 Minutes per episode, 3 episodes.
It's a miniseries/ad series to build hype for the couple (we'll be seeing them together in an upcoming full series for the first time together - which can cause people to be hesitant because Earth already had a BL Partner, and fans don't like those ships to change).
We see it quite often - either with products (like this one is for a cologne; OffGun also had a lot) or with Music Videos (EarthMix comes to mind; or GodBas). Sometimes if there's enough installments or length, people will add it here on MDL as a listing. It also helps to compile a more complete filmography on their actor pages.
I'm not sure how it works, but it does seem like the show is getting aired in Thailand by the channel GMM 25.…
It's a valid question - and it's great that you're asking. But yea, Thailand does seem to give airtime to many of their BL series. Some of which they actually haven't released to international audiences, or wait a few years to do so. There are also plenty of live gatherings of BL cast and staff, as well as talk shows and reality tv with BL stars, that get screentime in Thailand. For GMMTV especially, "BL Veterans" tend to equate GMMTV with Disney, especially early GMMTV, because of how tame their productions tend(ed) to be (as well as their production of music - but that's another story). And i've heard people comment about how certain intimate scenes wouldn't be released on TV in years prior, only available on streaming or purchase, as well as having to air after a certain time of night. You know, like much of early LGBT content everywhere else.
The problem is that Thailand's government hasn't approved equal rights and treatment in a lot of issues - something that these BL series producers are hoping to change according to interviews (and the actual petition that was linked in Not Me (episode 7 i believe)). So there's some negative opinions about Thailand because they're profiting off of LGBT content through media and tourism, but aren't treating their LGBT citizens right. But that's something that we international fans can't really do much about - we can only show our support and hope that Thai citizens' continual activism will achieve change.
Unlike with You're My Sky - I feel like this one makes sense. The only thing White was nervous about in regards…
Lol, it's easy to forget ngl. But yea, after Sean reassured him that he likes him as he is now, and not as he "was" (when it was Black), you see him continue on with the scene with almost Black-like confidence and assertiveness (much like how we saw him in that first episode).
I am just curious though if this and all BL series are being aired on national TV in Thailand.
I'm not sure how it works, but it does seem like the show is getting aired in Thailand by the channel GMM 25. And it shows on their program chart https://www.gmm25.com/schedule.html
Black is dealing with White the same way he dealt with Eugene. Leaving the other in the dark and trying to cut…
Yea but White is not Eugene. I don't think he's gonna let Black have his way. He's extremely loyal. And learning that Todd had been using him, he's gonna feel angry and used and possibly even guilty. Besides - White has clearly developed a backbone since the beginning, as well as some of the skills to back it up. And a fondness/dedication to the gang and cause.
Why do i think that Todd being the villain here is not even the biggest mystery of the show?
Yea,, fr. Todd was clearly framed in the show as sus from the beginning. The question, i think, is how much is Todd responsible for - and how much is Tawi actually responsible for. Because I still think Tawi sounded surprisingly genuine when Sean confronted him. And if Tawi is not responsible for as much as we think - then Gumpa is deliberately feeding the gang lies.
Besides, we're only on episode 9. We still have 5 to go. There's gotta be another big reveal.
White must've wanted Sean for a very long time too. Because how do you go from kissing to doing the do in one…
Unlike with You're My Sky - I feel like this one makes sense. The only thing White was nervous about in regards to Sean, was whether Sean likes him because he's "Black." We've seen White completely relax around Sean, and trusts him wholeheartedly. They've been through life and death situations together (and studies do show that adrenaline-inducing situations can establish bonds faster). And yes, some scenes certainly suggest he's attracted to him. Besides, the first episode showed that White is no stranger to intimacy.
Nooo there are too many spoilers in this video! Why did i watch this đ
The pilot trailer was put together to see if there was an eager audience. They hadn't sat down and fully went into filming and writing yet - it was just enough to give a general gist and vibe. They've done contradicted that trailer several times with the series since they changed up the plot ALOT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5vqDilXdqIsomeone explain the end of this video! Did they go to jail?!!
The pilot trailer was put together to see if there was an eager audience. They hadn't sat down and fully went into filming and writing yet - it was just enough to give a general gist and vibe. They've done contradicted that trailer several times with the series since they changed up the plot ALOT.
Anyone else confused as to why there wasnât the scene where Sean said âyou have a siblingâ Iâm lost. It…
I think the scene might take place within the events of this episode (on the ledge with White that we don't see much of), and was originally planned to be there. But then for suspense-sake is moved to another episode and will occur as a flashback.
1. So I believe Aii and San were doing their school assignment where they have to go interview a community which…
Yea, they clarify before they slept together that she meant earplugs. But I think she's being purposefully vague and suggestive here so that it could also mean condoms - since they are roughly cone shaped as well (and considering that Aii appeared to think that's what she meant in the beginning, and then in the morning San said "we didnt use those ones, but we did use them." So probably some sort of double meaning - and one that I'm sure she knew.
This was a good episode as usual! The emotional and physical buildup between the two side couples were done quite…
Agreed from top to bottom. I love Torn and Fah's story, and I am a sucker from friends-to-lovers trope. But this didnt feel satisfying. I hope that it gets better in future episodes.
How long has it been since episode one? Are they on spring break or something? Vee's sister mentioned Dome and…
Chronology-wise - they just finished their exams last episode, and Aii just got his feedback from another school - so they're on that small break between the 1st and 2nd semesters.
Next episodes will be in the next semester, during which time Aii has to make the decision about his other school offer, and the basketball team will have their big game.
So, not really a notable time skip for Aii and Saen - especially considering the elevator stare-my-way-into-your-heart thing happened during the end of exams. So honestly, the pacing of their couple is so so weird. And with Saen's trauma-dumping (not shaming him, just saying), it makes them feel a lot less genuine...
Am I the only one that wasn't particularly fond of this episode?
Like, for one thing - Aii is super reserved, and is presumed to never have spent much time thinking about relationships before this. And just started liking Saen (like within the span of a few days to a few weeks). And he went straight from first kiss to first time? I feel like it didn't match his character.
Also, Tupfah seemed excessively stiff in those kisses at the end. I thought he would've relaxed a little after a little bit. Like I've been passing it off as his character this whole time, and the fact that he's really cautious and reserved, but this seems like a little TOO much so. But I don't think it's the actor though - because I remember him being just fine in Y-Destiny. So I'm confused. And really not feeling that ship as much as I want to - especially with the way Thorn's eyes and body language is so expressive.
So Sean dug around in Black's apartment. And what did he find? Glasses. And contacts. Black has never needed these things. Plus these items are very expensive. Perhaps he may have even found White's ID as well off screen (he's certainly doing a thorough search, and why wouldn't he search his wallet; or even his ID from when he took the government test that would in theory be in the same bag). Combined with all the other behaviors that don't line up (and the ridiculous questions White would ask that Black would know). Sean has to know that White is not Black.
Then there's the conversation with Gumpa that gets cut off for us viewers. What other purpose would that conversation have? Especially since it's right after he leaves White.
Then there's the whole abandoned building bit, where he seems to be testing White and paying extra attention to him.
-The "good at spying" line was clue number 1. No where in the series have we gotten any clues that White or Black are good at spying. This was an indirect jab/hint to White that he knows.
- The way he pulled the bench up to window and helped White get through was also pretty telling. He has never showed this courtesy to him before, especially because Black would have been able to do it no problem.
-White being winded from running up a flight of steps (something that is suggested to be very out of character for Black both in this scene and in the rooftop training scene a few episodes back)
-watching how White reacts to being forced so close to Sean
-tickling White (another thing that keeps getting suggested as being a new thing, but not so easy to suddenly appear)
-the trust fall (Sean was just talking about how ridiculous the exercise was when White did it, besides he wouldn't trust Black to do that, Black has already let him "fall" before with that suspension flashback).
-And then the kiss. I do believe there might be some history between Black and Sean. Something that made it where this test confirmed that White isn't Black. Either because Black would never have let him do that, or because they kiss different.
And then he didn't even blink when White asked if he would still like him if he wasn't Black - saying he's never known Black like this (basically saying he had no desire to be like this with the old Black).
I think him tying him up in the bed was his punishment to White for lying. Also probably a way to identify White (the markings on his wrist), as well as the ripped button and the unstated wish he wants from White. He's establishing ways to help him distinguish between the two. And I think the hug when White got off the phone was him realizing that circumstances are about to change.
1.) They appear to have been attracted to each other for a while. But Sean held back because he was still figuring out if it was Black or not. Once he got definitive proof, he started letting his guard down. And White was scared of doing something as Black that would raise suspicions, and of the potential that Sean liked him because he was "Black" and not because of himself.
2.) Numerous studies have shown that adrenaline-inducing situations can really speed up bonding. And they've been in numerous life and death situations together.
It's a miniseries/ad series to build hype for the couple (we'll be seeing them together in an upcoming full series for the first time together - which can cause people to be hesitant because Earth already had a BL Partner, and fans don't like those ships to change).
We see it quite often - either with products (like this one is for a cologne; OffGun also had a lot) or with Music Videos (EarthMix comes to mind; or GodBas). Sometimes if there's enough installments or length, people will add it here on MDL as a listing. It also helps to compile a more complete filmography on their actor pages.
The problem is that Thailand's government hasn't approved equal rights and treatment in a lot of issues - something that these BL series producers are hoping to change according to interviews (and the actual petition that was linked in Not Me (episode 7 i believe)). So there's some negative opinions about Thailand because they're profiting off of LGBT content through media and tourism, but aren't treating their LGBT citizens right. But that's something that we international fans can't really do much about - we can only show our support and hope that Thai citizens' continual activism will achieve change.
Besides, we're only on episode 9. We still have 5 to go. There's gotta be another big reveal.
Next episodes will be in the next semester, during which time Aii has to make the decision about his other school offer, and the basketball team will have their big game.
So, not really a notable time skip for Aii and Saen - especially considering the elevator stare-my-way-into-your-heart thing happened during the end of exams. So honestly, the pacing of their couple is so so weird. And with Saen's trauma-dumping (not shaming him, just saying), it makes them feel a lot less genuine...
Like, for one thing - Aii is super reserved, and is presumed to never have spent much time thinking about relationships before this. And just started liking Saen (like within the span of a few days to a few weeks). And he went straight from first kiss to first time? I feel like it didn't match his character.
Also, Tupfah seemed excessively stiff in those kisses at the end. I thought he would've relaxed a little after a little bit. Like I've been passing it off as his character this whole time, and the fact that he's really cautious and reserved, but this seems like a little TOO much so. But I don't think it's the actor though - because I remember him being just fine in Y-Destiny. So I'm confused. And really not feeling that ship as much as I want to - especially with the way Thorn's eyes and body language is so expressive.
Anyone else?