Okay but why are they making black sooooo unlikable? It’s a lil weird. I guess he’s supposed to be “big…
We don't have Black's perspective yet (perhaps next episode will change that), but there actually is a lot there to start to understand him. He keeps his feelings closed off, so you have to watch the nuances of his expressions and body language.
Black really didn't seem to want to beat up Sean here. He didn't appear to plan it, and he was showing all the body language of being stressed that Sean wouldn't fight back. And check his conflicted face when Sean did his confession (before the window flashback), he knows this is gonna hurt him. But he is obviously of the mindset that he has to do it regardless.
I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to Sean, there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major trust issues, so the fact that he had let down that many guards for White told Black that it was gonna take a lot to get them away from each other. Especially since Sean kept saying he didn't understand and pulled Black back when he was trying to leave.
As for why? He's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex). Perhaps he's also mad that Sean couldn't tell the difference between the two of them (he after all made no attempt whatsoever to seem like White, despite knowing that White and Sean were close - he was even smoking when Sean pulled up).
I can't wait for Black to come to terms with how strong White's values and commitments are. He's not the same kid he used to have to protect on the school playground.
what the fuck is wrong with black I wish he died and never woke up AHHHHHHHHHH POOR SEAN OMG!!!
Black really didn't seem to want to beat up Sean here. He didn't appear to plan it, and he was showing all the body language of being stressed that Sean wouldn't fight back. And check his conflicted face when Sean did his confession (before the window flashback), he knows this is gonna hurt him. But he is obviously of the mindset that he has to do it regardless.
I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to Sean, there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major trust issues, so the fact that he had let down that many guards for White told Black that it was gonna take a lot to get them away from each other. Especially since Sean kept saying he didn't understand and pulled Black back when he was trying to leave.
As for why? He's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex). Perhaps he's also mad that Sean couldn't tell the difference between the two of them (he after all made no attempt whatsoever to seem like White, despite knowing that White and Sean were close - he was even smoking when Sean pulled up).
I can't wait for Black to come to terms with how strong White's values and commitments are. He's not the same kid he used to have to protect on the school playground. But my heart bleeds for Sean in the meantime.
But remember, unless they find a way to sever their connection - Black dying might very well kill White, or near abouts. And White beating up Black is so far out of character, and also plot wise unlikely - Black kicked White's ass, even though he's not fully recovered.
Yeah, I was trying to wait . . . but failed last week. haha
I don't know - by watching it week-by-week you give yourself time to analyze certain scenes (especially when it comes to Black - he doesnt really say what he's thinking, so you have to read the nuances of his body language and expressions). And you get to be a part of the theorizing and character analysis that's happening in this discussion thread. I personally feel like I'm getting much more value from watching this one week-by-week, because it's a much more complex plot than the standard BL romance dramas.
I mean, how did not Sean realized that he wasn't talking to White when he confessed his love (maybe he was too…
Absolutely. Black didn't seem to want it to come to that. He actually seemed quite conflicted in that moment when Sean confessed (right before the window flashback). And he tried to walk away several times, but Sean was proving that getting Sean and White to stay away from each other wasn't gonna be easy. So he used the fact that Sean didn't seem to be able to tell the difference to crush his hopes.
And I'm lowkey disappointed in Sean right now. Even if he couldn't tell the difference between them quickly (because afterall, he doesn't know if White and Black had been switching or whatnot), I thought he was putting forward tests to be able to tell. The rope marks on the wrist. The button. The promise. The secret location. The "do you like to kiss with your eyes open or closed" (which by the way, Sean did seem to catch on to being a lie at the end of that flashback - did you see that eyebrow twitch, it screamed "gotcha"). Black was even smoking when Sean pulled up - which White always adamantly rejected.
There's a theory going around that Black might not just be mad that Sean is tying White to this dangerous mess, but also because Sean can't tell the difference between the two of them.
Yes, in the novel Gram loves Black (and is the only one who hadn't figured out that it's White the whole time...…
I've been telling everyone that the series is NOTHING like the novel, and they really don't seem to believe how night and day it is - they're all in for a shock when the latest Wattpad translator finishes their fan translation.
Ive been on not me twitter and I've come to the conclusion that everything that Black is doing is for his brother.…
Agreed. Black has always read as a reckless character, but he also reads as an extremely protective brother. So, I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to Sean, there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major trust issues, so the fact that he had let down that many guards for White told Black that it was gonna take a lot to get them away from each other.
As for why, he's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex).
And you bring up an excellent point about not being able to tell - it could very well be part of it actually. He wasn't trying to act like White at all - despite knowing that White and Sean had gotten intimately close.
I checked if there was a stuntman involved in those Black fighting scenes. Gun was unrecognizable from the attitude…
I think we'll have to wait and see when the behind the scenes comes out later this week. By from my understanding - the only doubles used were when White and Black are supposed to be on screen together. But at the same time, we haven't really seen fighting like this yet so who knows.
I thought Sean already knew about White, otherwise why would he ask him if he had any siblings. But seeing him…
I think he does know, to an extent. His reaction is justified by 2 theories:
1.) He doesn't know how to differentiate between them. And he thought that since Black came to his "secret" spot (and kissed him), that it had to have been White.
2.) He knew it was Black beating him up (after the confession anyway) but figured since White wasn't there and hadn't said anything - that meant that White left him.
But granted, he is not as caught-on and smart as the past few episodes made me think he was. Like I thought he had lined up all these clues to help differentiate between them - and then he didn't use any of them. Tsk.
No but are Gram Black a thing in the novel or are they feelings in the novel???
GramBlack is a thing in the novel. A toxic thing, but a thing nonetheless. But they've changed SO much between the novel and the series - and are really carrying this Eugene thing hard, that it's really unclear if they will be a thing in the series.
I think he knows to an extent, but doesn't know how to differentiate between the 2 (after all, he wouldn't know…
Yea I thought so as well. So that leads to an alternate conclusion/theory: It's possible that while he might know it was Black beating him up (after the confession anyway), he thought the fact that it was Black there instead of White meant that White left him and wouldn't come back.
I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to him there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major…
Black is definitely underestimating White's backbone and love. He's not the same kid that he always had to protect when they were younger. Time for him to learn what his brother's capable of.
I think he knows there's 2 of them - but he doesn't know how to differentiate between them. And perhaps the fact…
I think you're making White to be a lot more violent of a character than he is. I do think he will put his foot down to Black, but I am extremely skeptical of him coming even close to "beating the shit out of him" even if he could overpower Black (which we have done seen that he can't).
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Black really didn't seem to want to beat up Sean here. He didn't appear to plan it, and he was showing all the body language of being stressed that Sean wouldn't fight back.
And check his conflicted face when Sean did his confession (before the window flashback), he knows this is gonna hurt him. But he is obviously of the mindset that he has to do it regardless.
I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to Sean, there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major trust issues, so the fact that he had let down that many guards for White told Black that it was gonna take a lot to get them away from each other. Especially since Sean kept saying he didn't understand and pulled Black back when he was trying to leave.
As for why? He's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex). Perhaps he's also mad that Sean couldn't tell the difference between the two of them (he after all made no attempt whatsoever to seem like White, despite knowing that White and Sean were close - he was even smoking when Sean pulled up).
I can't wait for Black to come to terms with how strong White's values and commitments are. He's not the same kid he used to have to protect on the school playground.
And check his conflicted face when Sean did his confession (before the window flashback), he knows this is gonna hurt him. But he is obviously of the mindset that he has to do it regardless.
I think he figured that by doing this, if White came to Sean, there would be nothing to salvage. Sean has major trust issues, so the fact that he had let down that many guards for White told Black that it was gonna take a lot to get them away from each other. Especially since Sean kept saying he didn't understand and pulled Black back when he was trying to leave.
As for why? He's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex). Perhaps he's also mad that Sean couldn't tell the difference between the two of them (he after all made no attempt whatsoever to seem like White, despite knowing that White and Sean were close - he was even smoking when Sean pulled up).
I can't wait for Black to come to terms with how strong White's values and commitments are. He's not the same kid he used to have to protect on the school playground. But my heart bleeds for Sean in the meantime.
But remember, unless they find a way to sever their connection - Black dying might very well kill White, or near abouts. And White beating up Black is so far out of character, and also plot wise unlikely - Black kicked White's ass, even though he's not fully recovered.
And I'm lowkey disappointed in Sean right now. Even if he couldn't tell the difference between them quickly (because afterall, he doesn't know if White and Black had been switching or whatnot), I thought he was putting forward tests to be able to tell. The rope marks on the wrist. The button. The promise. The secret location. The "do you like to kiss with your eyes open or closed" (which by the way, Sean did seem to catch on to being a lie at the end of that flashback - did you see that eyebrow twitch, it screamed "gotcha"). Black was even smoking when Sean pulled up - which White always adamantly rejected.
There's a theory going around that Black might not just be mad that Sean is tying White to this dangerous mess, but also because Sean can't tell the difference between the two of them.
But no english subs yet! I'll have to keep checking in on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohqvWXqkTVw
That further proves my boy is stupider than I had made him out to be. For real, he had so many things set up to be perfect tests. Tsk tsk.
As for why, he's extremely protective of White. We saw it in the flashbacks. And he wants White as far away from all of this danger as possible. So by cutting off the ties he's developed - he's hoping that it eliminates the reasons for White to come back. And it's not like he holds any fondness for Sean, if anything - he might be absolutely livid at Sean for getting close to his brother (in the book, Black had a raging brother complex).
And you bring up an excellent point about not being able to tell - it could very well be part of it actually. He wasn't trying to act like White at all - despite knowing that White and Sean had gotten intimately close.
1.) He doesn't know how to differentiate between them. And he thought that since Black came to his "secret" spot (and kissed him), that it had to have been White.
2.) He knew it was Black beating him up (after the confession anyway) but figured since White wasn't there and hadn't said anything - that meant that White left him.
But granted, he is not as caught-on and smart as the past few episodes made me think he was. Like I thought he had lined up all these clues to help differentiate between them - and then he didn't use any of them. Tsk.
But they've changed SO much between the novel and the series - and are really carrying this Eugene thing hard, that it's really unclear if they will be a thing in the series.