Oh, really? Aw. I think that they would make an interesting and fun pairing, but I can definitely understand his…
Can’t say I can blame any actor/actress wanting to walk away from this show. Since the initial hot searches some other names have started floating up so I’m still holding out that the show is just using Xiao Ran for clout.
Agreed. What I didn't like was, he found out it was Wen Wan after interrogating the maid who flogged the FL, yet…
Lol, why is no one complaining about how Ling stays until the end? It’s all about Wen Wan😂 Wen Wan is bad but she’s not bad enough, it has to be remembered that NYX spent 4 years dealing with the antics of the “most poisonous woman in the capital”. His tolerance level is going to be high, especially if Wen Wan isn’t hurting other staff or outsiders. Plus, he talks to Wen Wan before he leaves and warns her so it’s not as if he did nothing. And at the time of the incident, he was still under the impression Ji Man was Nie Sangyu, who had done a lot of terrible things to others, including bullying Wen Wan. He later on explains his reluctance to deal with her out of respect for his relationship with Wen Wan’s father. Ji man doesn’t forgive him for the flogging. She wants a divorce and it’s part of the reason she stays prickly with NYX. In the beginning it’s only when she sees some financial benefits that she decides to stay. Most of the blame Ji Man gets is more due to Nie Sangyu’s past actions, not Wen Wan despite her machinations. And if Nie Sangyu didn’t already have a notorious reputation, things wouldn’t have stuck. It’s to separate the characters and make the audience understand that Nie Sangyu wasn’t good and shouldn’t be sympathised with.
I rewatch all comedy and sad scenes , I prefer the sad scenes that contains much of feeling .
I tried it because it was highly recommended but I just didn’t like it. It takes a lot for me to get into TV shows in general nowadays so while I’ll check out shows I don’t end up watching many.
I rewatch all comedy and sad scenes , I prefer the sad scenes that contains much of feeling .
That bit was so bitter. I really can’t get over this couple. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a well developed, rational couple who respect each others careers like this before in Cdrama.
I just want a trailer😭I saw a fan video someone cut with Reuters and the eye skills and good looks nearly killed…
It just seems a waste not to advertise.This show has 0 publicity but yet keeps making the charts. Imagine how popular it could be if it had a trailer or photos.
It will probably be changed for the drama but the book has a pretty toxic male lead and the relationship with…
Actually GBMP wasn’t as popular as it could have been when it aired because of it being a tragedy. It’s gained popularity over time because of the acting, production value, and looks. Xiao Feng is basically a classic character and there’s a joke about if the male lead wasn’t good-looking, then Li Chengyin would be scolded to death. Plus, Li Chengyin is a saint compared to this guy from the details I’ve heard about this story…and while the relationship is toxic in GBMP, it’s also apparently not as bad as this book, which is wild. The heroine also doesn’t seem to be the type of heroine audiences want to see either. There seems to be less appetite in female audiences for stories of the female lead being a punching bag. And from what I gather, she is also a love brains and love brain get scolded a lot now. I usually try to read/buy the books of the show PXR stars in but this is not a book I dare buy and this is coming from someone who owns several editions of GBMP and loves Dreamer in the Spring Budoir, which also had a toxic male in the beginning. They will definitely have to beautify the male lead. Li Chengyin was also beautified in the drama version. He’s not the same as book Li Chengyin.
I just saw a tweet about this on Twitter with the hashtags #LuiYuning and #PengXiaoran made me curious to come…
It will probably be changed for the drama but the book has a pretty toxic male lead and the relationship with the FML is very toxic as well. A lot of fans on both sides don’t seem to have positive opinions on the original book and given the current climate’s changing tastes, I’m not sure such an abusive story would do well anymore.
Just like there are many ways to be a woman, there are also many ways to be a savvy businesswoman. In real life, there are loud businesswomen, businesswomen with fears, and businesswomen who give in to a moment of nonsense - does this mean that these women aren’t capable? Jiman may have moments of silliness but she’s also tenacious just like in the book. She spends the whole show building businesses. When one goes under, she starts again. She goes from selling bootleg portraits to developing goods quality enough to earn an imperial charter. Then, she starts from scratch all over again to once again deliver work that catches the imperial eye. How is that not savvy? She supports her female friends into employment that validates them, gives them confidence, and allows them independence. She creates a social enterprise that not only brings a local village out of poverty but also cuts down on her costs, reduces threats, and allows her to ensure the quality of her ingredients. Under duress, she creates a sustainability campaign that allows her to achieve her goals. Her medical knowledge saves Ning Yuxuan countless times. She also gathers intelligence for Ning Yuxuan. Her accounting skills help take down a big baddie in the show. Her quick thinking ends up saving multiple lives when a plan goes wrong. And in the end, it’s her direct confrontation with a baddie that leads to the unraveling of some of the biggest baddies in the show. How is this not helpful? One of the nice things about RoaTF is that it respects the energy and effort Ji Man and Ning Yuxuan have put into their careers and doesn’t lose sight of this despite the romance. In fact, Ji Man and Ning Yuxuan are so busy with their respective careers, that many of their meetings are at breakfast, work, or dinner just like with real life busy working couples. Linking back to the first paragraph, I don’t think drama Jiman having moments of loudness, weakness, or silliness negates her business acumen. We still get a capable female lead with personality but one sans the stereotypical female competition for a man and the “ I am an island” mentality, which is refreshing to me. I want more breadth and range in the idea of what a strong woman means. I’m all for strong female characters but impenetrable characters with no vulnerabilities or softness who get lost in house fighting bore me in the same way as cold, domineering male leads with no growth.
6.2/10 on Douban, better than many WeTV shows getting avg scores 4-5 (like the most recent Journey of Chong Zi)https://www.douban.com/search?q=%E6%98%A5%E9%97%BA%E6%A2%A6%E9%87%8C%E4%BA%BATHIS…
It’s a shame that the score went down. It opened at 6.6. Its grades are still good though considering how little it was advertised by Tencent. It ranked in the Top 5 on a few charts. Pretty sure I also saw it rank as an S+ broadcast although it was just an S.
Agree, the rumored casts for this drama keep changing. I feel like they are testing and looking for feedbacks.…
Same. The amount of walking this drama has done suggests it can’t get the casting it wanted or it can’t get anyone at all. This drama seems to be peak abuse so it seems unlikely that Xiao Ran would take it unless a massive change was made or some better resources were exchanged. I saw the interview you mentioned too and her expression didn’t seem like she was interested in taking on another abuse drama at the time. It feels more likely that this is a made up melon or some other show has contacted the two of them and the wires got crossed.
Started rewatching for the 3rd time with a friend yesterday and this is a show for for viewers who like mostly romance, don’t mind young characters and the immaturity that comes with youth, characters/character development over plot, a slower middle to develop characters/relationships, and the main plotline focusing on the emotional development of a young couple’s relationship. The fast pace in the front is the setup of the characters. The middle slows down to focus properly on the characters, their relationships and their development. The end is fast again as it is the culmination of all the decisions and actions of the characters coming to a head. The show has good details and foreshadowing and its delivery of Jiman’s true identity as a mystery is novel but it is not a plot driven drama. Coming into it thinking it is one will only lead to disappointment.
The fact that no matter who they cast, the fans call it a rotten cake, means it’s probably not good. This is one of the few dramas where everything depends on the script because the content of the original story doesn’t seem like it would be popular. Viewers don’t want to see women being abused for the sake of abuse anymore. And the government is stricter about some things too. This show will have to be changed to pass the censorship review but if the script isn’t well written enough, then the show won’t do well either. Makeup and shooting will also be important. The casting seems to be choosing white rabbit type actresses but according to some book fans, the heroine should have a tenacious, stubborn air but also be stunningly beautiful in order to convey the right atmosphere. Bai Tao and Li Muge shot Xiao Ran well because they understood the heroine is important to the story too. This director seems to have mostly shot hero dramas so I don’t know if he will know how to shoot and highlight the heroine well. Lastly, it doesn’t seem like Xiao Ran would like this type of role because of the relationship. She talks often about social responsibility and I feel that she wants to take roles that can be good role models for younger viewers. Since Goodbye My Princess, she seems to have only chosen roles with either healthy relationships or where the heroine leaves if the hero is not treating her right. I can’t see her taking on a role where the heroine not only takes the abuse but then decides to live happily ever after with her abuser.
According to rumours the hero has changed but PXR is being floated again. This feels like dropping a rumour because they want to cast her or trying to raise the show’s status rather than her fighting for it . Unless this script is massively changed like RoaTF or there’s some massive trade off in resources , I can’t see her agreeing to this character setting based on her interviews. If it hasn’t, I hope the heroine is one of the other actresses being floated. I’ll support her because no role is a waste but not even the director being the same director as the Untamed can make the original story appetising and a lot of passerby seem to have a negative view of it.
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Right? I feel like I’ve done more explaining of this show than my actual coursework.
Wen Wan is bad but she’s not bad enough, it has to be remembered that NYX spent 4 years dealing with the antics of the “most poisonous woman in the capital”. His tolerance level is going to be high, especially if Wen Wan isn’t hurting other staff or outsiders. Plus, he talks to Wen Wan before he leaves and warns her so it’s not as if he did nothing. And at the time of the incident, he was still under the impression Ji Man was Nie Sangyu, who had done a lot of terrible things to others, including bullying Wen Wan. He later on explains his reluctance to deal with her out of respect for his relationship with Wen Wan’s father.
Ji man doesn’t forgive him for the flogging. She wants a divorce and it’s part of the reason she stays prickly with NYX. In the beginning it’s only when she sees some financial benefits that she decides to stay.
Most of the blame Ji Man gets is more due to Nie Sangyu’s past actions, not Wen Wan despite her machinations. And if Nie Sangyu didn’t already have a notorious reputation, things wouldn’t have stuck. It’s to separate the characters and make the audience understand that Nie Sangyu wasn’t good and shouldn’t be sympathised with.
He seems busy. They both are, which I guess is the reason for the lack of aftersales.
I saw a fan video someone cut with Reuters and the eye skills and good looks nearly killed me.
A Korean broadcaster has bought the rights to air it in Korea!
Plus, Li Chengyin is a saint compared to this guy from the details I’ve heard about this story…and while the relationship is toxic in GBMP, it’s also apparently not as bad as this book, which is wild.
The heroine also doesn’t seem to be the type of heroine audiences want to see either. There seems to be less appetite in female audiences for stories of the female lead being a punching bag. And from what I gather, she is also a love brains and love brain get scolded a lot now.
I usually try to read/buy the books of the show PXR stars in but this is not a book I dare buy and this is coming from someone who owns several editions of GBMP and loves Dreamer in the Spring Budoir, which also had a toxic male in the beginning.
They will definitely have to beautify the male lead. Li Chengyin was also beautified in the drama version. He’s not the same as book Li Chengyin.
Jiman may have moments of silliness but she’s also tenacious just like in the book. She spends the whole show building businesses. When one goes under, she starts again. She goes from selling bootleg portraits to developing goods quality enough to earn an imperial charter. Then, she starts from scratch all over again to once again deliver work that catches the imperial eye. How is that not savvy?
She supports her female friends into employment that validates them, gives them confidence, and allows them independence. She creates a social enterprise that not only brings a local village out of poverty but also cuts down on her costs, reduces threats, and allows her to ensure the quality of her ingredients. Under duress, she creates a sustainability campaign that allows her to achieve her goals.
Her medical knowledge saves Ning Yuxuan countless times. She also gathers intelligence for Ning Yuxuan. Her accounting skills help take down a big baddie in the show. Her quick thinking ends up saving multiple lives when a plan goes wrong. And in the end, it’s her direct confrontation with a baddie that leads to the unraveling of some of the biggest baddies in the show. How is this not helpful?
One of the nice things about RoaTF is that it respects the energy and effort Ji Man and Ning Yuxuan have put into their careers and doesn’t lose sight of this despite the romance. In fact, Ji Man and Ning Yuxuan are so busy with their respective careers, that many of their meetings are at breakfast, work, or dinner just like with real life busy working couples.
Linking back to the first paragraph, I don’t think drama Jiman having moments of loudness, weakness, or silliness negates her business acumen. We still get a capable female lead with personality but one sans the stereotypical female competition for a man and the “ I am an island” mentality, which is refreshing to me. I want more breadth and range in the idea of what a strong woman means. I’m all for strong female characters but impenetrable characters with no vulnerabilities or softness who get lost in house fighting bore me in the same way as cold, domineering male leads with no growth.
This drama seems to be peak abuse so it seems unlikely that Xiao Ran would take it unless a massive change was made or some better resources were exchanged. I saw the interview you mentioned too and her expression didn’t seem like she was interested in taking on another abuse drama at the time.
It feels more likely that this is a made up melon or some other show has contacted the two of them and the wires got crossed.
The fast pace in the front is the setup of the characters. The middle slows down to focus properly on the characters, their relationships and their development. The end is fast again as it is the culmination of all the decisions and actions of the characters coming to a head.
The show has good details and foreshadowing and its delivery of Jiman’s true identity as a mystery is novel but it is not a plot driven drama. Coming into it thinking it is one will only lead to disappointment.
Makeup and shooting will also be important. The casting seems to be choosing white rabbit type actresses but according to some book fans, the heroine should have a tenacious, stubborn air but also be stunningly beautiful in order to convey the right atmosphere. Bai Tao and Li Muge shot Xiao Ran well because they understood the heroine is important to the story too. This director seems to have mostly shot hero dramas so I don’t know if he will know how to shoot and highlight the heroine well.
Lastly, it doesn’t seem like Xiao Ran would like this type of role because of the relationship. She talks often about social responsibility and I feel that she wants to take roles that can be good role models for younger viewers. Since Goodbye My Princess, she seems to have only chosen roles with either healthy relationships or where the heroine leaves if the hero is not treating her right. I can’t see her taking on a role where the heroine not only takes the abuse but then decides to live happily ever after with her abuser.