A better lesson to learn is don’t keep clips of non consenting people in vulnerable sexual situations.
Lol, nah. Being a virgin is no excuse. I was a virgin until I was 25 & never once did anything like that & never would have. Never having sex before doesn’t magically give you a free pass to keep recordings of someone like that who didn’t consent. What if that was you in that video? You’d be fine with someone who knew you were drugged kept a video like that & did God knows what with it? You’d forgive them because they were a virgin & never loved anyone before? No, that’s weirdo behavior.
Also, “He should’ve just said that he keep a video of him I mean some couples do that”, yeah, couples who have CONSENTED BEFOREHAND to be recorded & kept. & “but he didn’t cause he was at some point afraid of YouShu’s reaction”, why would he be afraid of his reaction? Because he knew it was wrong & that YS would be mad, as most people would be.
I get it’s a fictional show that’s supposed to be toxic (meaning there shouldn’t be any lesson made by the toxic character to be taken from the show nor should there be excuses for their behavior) & you can still like the series, but let’s not say “we” forgive that kind of behavior over useless reasons like virginity.
(I know this is a long comment & the tone is rough but I mean it more as a “don’t take toxicity as lessons and don’t excuse poor actions” than a comment to bash or be rude)
A better lesson to learn is don’t keep clips of non consenting people in vulnerable sexual situations.
You wouldn’t need that type of saving if you didn’t do it in the first place. Yes, I agree passwords can be necessary but FX messed up by keeping the video, not by not having a password.
Don’t get me wrong, I really like this series, but the inconsistencies & misunderstandings are becoming a lot for me. I normally don’t watch shows that have more than 16 episodes because of how much it usually feels like they drag things.
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The scene of Suo Wei finding the clip of Wang Shuo setting it up to look like he & Chang Yu slept together- I thought we already established that? Why did he act surprised & wonder what was going on? & why were they acting like if Chi Cheng knew, the misunderstanding between them would be cleared up & he’d forgive him? Like why would he forgive someone who pretended to sleep with his boyfriend’s best friend & dip for 7 years?? Idk, I might just be nitpicking. I 100% understand misunderstandings are for conflict to help the overall plot, but when there are sooooo many that just continue until the end, it frustrates me lol
1. A baby just came out in a few minutes and apparently without even a single issue. How far along was she? Wasn't…
She panicked when she stabbed him, dude. It wasn’t like she was planning his death. She was trying to get him to stop, she wasn’t meaning to kill her son.
& for you to continue to describe Hyunju incorrectly when you’ve been corrected at least twice, there’s no point in continuing any kind of discussion. SHE wasn’t meant to be or even was perceived as the only kindest & most selfless person in the show. Open your eyes. Kim Youngmi, Kim Junhee, Jang Geumja, Gihun, they all had the same qualities. “Getting rattled & killing Daeho” didn’t change the qualities in Gihun by the way. His mind was trying to protect him & cope with the huge amount of guilt he was drowning in. Had Daeho not feed into it by continuing to blame Gihun, he most likely would have been alive. Gihun started to realize the reason Daeho didn’t come back was out of fear & was going to stop going after him. Until Daeho attacked him & continued to blame Gihun & feed his guilt again.
Story wise, I find season 3 the most impactful. I saw someone comment something earlier that I liked a lot. Gihun’s…
He came back to the games to save people, what are you on about? Whether he joined or not, the games were still happening & people were going to die, with or without him there.
Also, you’re acting like to call someone a person with morals, they have to be absolutely perfect. That’s not always the case. Yes, Gihun still killed people when he needed to. But he knew it was wrong to kill people just to kill them & get more money.
& Player 096? You mean the one that he did kill? Lol, he didn’t want people to die. He got him to stop for a bit until he was attacked. & killed him because he had to. As for Daeho, he was traumatized, consumed with guilt, & was trying to cope. Again, people aren’t perfect or faultless. He was drowning in the guilt that he felt he was the reason everyone died during the retaliation. His mind was trying to help him cope with it & pass the blame. Not, it isn’t right of him to do, but again, he’s human.
Your takes are very strange. You seem to be confusing morals with perfection or something on that kind of level. You can have morals while also making mistakes or trying to survive. If he was as flawed & had zero morality the way it seems you’re trying to convey, he would have killed that baby, not himself.
I don’t think they’re exactly planning a US spinoff. I think the director said they didn’t have anything…
Yeah, I saw that after making this comment. But the director still wasn’t hinting for USA SG. He was peaving it open for possibilities for sure, but I read that he didn’t include that scene specifically to hint at a spinoff. “The game in Korea ended with Gi-hun's sacrifice, but I wanted to show that the game was still ongoing elsewhere and that the world had not changed that much.” Also, from what I read, it hasn’t been confirmed that the USA one is actually happening. Like they haven’t been officially picked up yet.
1. A baby just came out in a few minutes and apparently without even a single issue. How far along was she? Wasn't…
Respectfully, your takes are ass lol. It’s almost like you didn’t actually watch the show.
I’m not going to go into every point that you wrote about because I don’t have the time right now. But Jun-Hee was pregnant from the beginning of season 2. What else would you have expected? From what I remember, they don’t say how far along she was, just that it was more than 6 months. Of course the labor isn’t going to be 100% exact, it’s a movie not a documentary. People being mad about Geumja killing her son is wild. I get that that isn’t something someone would typically do, but you have to remember her character. She was similar to Gihun when it came to morals. & she believed very strongly about mother child relationships. She told him to kill her to spare Junhee & her baby, something very in character of her. It was also very in character of her to save a child as well as save her own by stopping him from doing something he’d regret forever. & as someone pointed out, there is no gay character. Hyunju is a trans female. And honestly, she was no different than the other main characters when it came to morals & friendship. She just happened to be trans, not sure how that’s “woke propaganda” when Gihun has had the same kindness & selflessness as Hyunju since the very beginning.
the ending was dumb af Seong Gi Hun should have not died
This series is based on real life. People die, even the good ones. Life is unfair. Gihun kept his good character & high morals from beginning to end. It would have been less realistic for him to win a second time in a row. His death was impactful & had a strong message. “We are not horses. We are humans.” The rich think the poor are all the same; selfish money hungry losers that will do anything for cash. Gihun was not like that. He was never like that. His death changed the frontman’s opinions. He would have never given a previous winner’s winnings to their child if they died during a second round at the games. He would have never given the baby to someone safe to look after. Not if it wasn’t for Gihun & his sacrifice. Gihun was giving people back their morality & human emotions. Unfortunately though, the rich are still the rich, so the games continue. But there’s at least one person that his message got to, the one leading the last games.
Nah , 7.5 is too low. It was so sad, brutal and shocking. NONE of our favorites were alive by the end and the…
I don’t think they’re exactly planning a US spinoff. I think the director said they didn’t have anything else planned after season 3. Of course it could always be a possibility, especially if fans want it. But I took the ending to show that even in the end, after the island blowing up, the games are still continuing. Like the rich seem to always be more powerful than the poor. Sad, truly. But I do agree, the rating here is way too low! The message & raw realism is so damn good, I feel people are overlooking it because of how sad it all was. But truly, no matter how heartbreaking this season really was, I wouldn’t change a thing. I rated it a 9.5
Idk but the best season was season1 (after watching all 3 seasons)I think it does not need any seaons after season…
Story wise, I find season 3 the most impactful. I saw someone comment something earlier that I liked a lot. Gihun’s death was impactful & important to his character. He was one who had the biggest heart & the most morals. “Gihun died without greed to save the innocent.” No matter how much they tried to change him to show that all poor people were nothing but selfish money hungry losers, they could never change him. Some people will always be great people, no matter what they’re faced with. That’s how I took the writing & the message of season 3.
it doesnt comply with the rules they have set. it is basically a plot-hole lol. so yeah, bad writing.
I took his grudge against Daeho was because he felt extremely guilty & wanted the blame to be someone else’s. Yes, Gihun is all about saving & morals. But he felt like he failed everyone & that the deaths from the retaliation were his fault. To me, his grudge was a coping mechanism. To him, he couldn’t have been at fault because he was supposed to be the hero. So to cope, he wanted to pass the blame to someone who he felt betrayed them by not coming back with the ammo.
As for the randoms making it to the end, that’s the most realistic thing they could have done. This show is heavily based on real life. The way that life isn’t fair & that the poor is treated terribly. Keeping the whole main cast alive until the last game would have strayed away from that. The ending of course was sad but it was very true to real life.
it doesnt comply with the rules they have set. it is basically a plot-hole lol. so yeah, bad writing.
I also feel it was really important for that to happen as it changed Inho’s morality. If it was any one else who was playing for a second time, someone who was full of greed, that happened to die in a different way at the end, the frontman would have never taken their old winnings & given it to their child. Gihun was changing the morals of the people in charge & future of the game, even after death. Also, giving the child with her winnings to someone who could take care of her definitely wouldn’t have been something he would have done had Gihun not sacrificed himself for her life. It was truly a great ending in my opinion with many lessons.
if only they did not add the VIPs scenes, was cringing so hard
I felt like I was watching the judges from USA’s The Masked Singer. I cringed in all the same ways & had the biggest urge to skip all their parts lol I understand the VIP scenes, I just wish they weren’t so cringe.
I cried for the transgender player and the old lady 😢 it broke my heart.I have a question, so the money was…
The reasoning of why he gave the money to 456’s daughter isn’t exactly clear or specificity stated. But the way I interpreted it was that yes, he did feel guilty. I feel he did have a soft spot for Gihun, I think a big reason being that he reminded him of himself. I also think 456 gave the frontman a lot of his humanity back by almost always being selfless unless in dire situations. With Gihun giving the win to the baby so she’d have a chance at life, I think Inho felt it was only right to do something good for Gihun’s sacrifice.
Also, “He should’ve just said that he keep a video of him I mean some couples do that”, yeah, couples who have CONSENTED BEFOREHAND to be recorded & kept. & “but he didn’t cause he was at some point afraid of YouShu’s reaction”, why would he be afraid of his reaction? Because he knew it was wrong & that YS would be mad, as most people would be.
I get it’s a fictional show that’s supposed to be toxic (meaning there shouldn’t be any lesson made by the toxic character to be taken from the show nor should there be excuses for their behavior) & you can still like the series, but let’s not say “we” forgive that kind of behavior over useless reasons like virginity.
(I know this is a long comment & the tone is rough but I mean it more as a “don’t take toxicity as lessons and don’t excuse poor actions” than a comment to bash or be rude)
Yes, I agree passwords can be necessary but FX messed up by keeping the video, not by not having a password.
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The scene of Suo Wei finding the clip of Wang Shuo setting it up to look like he & Chang Yu slept together- I thought we already established that? Why did he act surprised & wonder what was going on? & why were they acting like if Chi Cheng knew, the misunderstanding between them would be cleared up & he’d forgive him? Like why would he forgive someone who pretended to sleep with his boyfriend’s best friend & dip for 7 years??
Idk, I might just be nitpicking. I 100% understand misunderstandings are for conflict to help the overall plot, but when there are sooooo many that just continue until the end, it frustrates me lol
& for you to continue to describe Hyunju incorrectly when you’ve been corrected at least twice, there’s no point in continuing any kind of discussion. SHE wasn’t meant to be or even was perceived as the only kindest & most selfless person in the show. Open your eyes. Kim Youngmi, Kim Junhee, Jang Geumja, Gihun, they all had the same qualities.
“Getting rattled & killing Daeho” didn’t change the qualities in Gihun by the way. His mind was trying to protect him & cope with the huge amount of guilt he was drowning in. Had Daeho not feed into it by continuing to blame Gihun, he most likely would have been alive. Gihun started to realize the reason Daeho didn’t come back was out of fear & was going to stop going after him. Until Daeho attacked him & continued to blame Gihun & feed his guilt again.
& your last take? Ass again 🥀
Also, you’re acting like to call someone a person with morals, they have to be absolutely perfect. That’s not always the case. Yes, Gihun still killed people when he needed to. But he knew it was wrong to kill people just to kill them & get more money.
& Player 096? You mean the one that he did kill? Lol, he didn’t want people to die. He got him to stop for a bit until he was attacked. & killed him because he had to.
As for Daeho, he was traumatized, consumed with guilt, & was trying to cope. Again, people aren’t perfect or faultless. He was drowning in the guilt that he felt he was the reason everyone died during the retaliation. His mind was trying to help him cope with it & pass the blame. Not, it isn’t right of him to do, but again, he’s human.
Your takes are very strange. You seem to be confusing morals with perfection or something on that kind of level. You can have morals while also making mistakes or trying to survive.
If he was as flawed & had zero morality the way it seems you’re trying to convey, he would have killed that baby, not himself.
“The game in Korea ended with Gi-hun's sacrifice, but I wanted to show that the game was still ongoing elsewhere and that the world had not
changed that much.”
Also, from what I read, it hasn’t been confirmed that the USA one is actually happening. Like they haven’t been officially picked up yet.
It’s almost like you didn’t actually watch the show.
I’m not going to go into every point that you wrote about because I don’t have the time right now. But Jun-Hee was pregnant from the beginning of season 2. What else would you have expected? From what I remember, they don’t say how far along she was, just that it was more than 6 months.
Of course the labor isn’t going to be 100% exact, it’s a movie not a documentary.
People being mad about Geumja killing her son is wild. I get that that isn’t something someone would typically do, but you have to remember her character. She was similar to Gihun when it came to morals. & she believed very strongly about mother child relationships. She told him to kill her to spare Junhee & her baby, something very in character of her. It was also very in character of her to save a child as well as save her own by stopping him from doing something he’d regret forever.
& as someone pointed out, there is no gay character. Hyunju is a trans female. And honestly, she was no different than the other main characters when it came to morals & friendship. She just happened to be trans, not sure how that’s “woke propaganda” when Gihun has had the same kindness & selflessness as Hyunju since the very beginning.
Gihun kept his good character & high morals from beginning to end. It would have been less realistic for him to win a second time in a row. His death was impactful & had a strong message. “We are not horses. We are humans.” The rich think the poor are all the same; selfish money hungry losers that will do anything for cash. Gihun was not like that. He was never like that.
His death changed the frontman’s opinions. He would have never given a previous winner’s winnings to their child if they died during a second round at the games. He would have never given the baby to someone safe to look after. Not if it wasn’t for Gihun & his sacrifice. Gihun was giving people back their morality & human emotions. Unfortunately though, the rich are still the rich, so the games continue. But there’s at least one person that his message got to, the one leading the last games.
Of course it could always be a possibility, especially if fans want it. But I took the ending to show that even in the end, after the island blowing up, the games are still continuing. Like the rich seem to always be more powerful than the poor. Sad, truly.
But I do agree, the rating here is way too low! The message & raw realism is so damn good, I feel people are overlooking it because of how sad it all was. But truly, no matter how heartbreaking this season really was, I wouldn’t change a thing. I rated it a 9.5
No matter how much they tried to change him to show that all poor people were nothing but selfish money hungry losers, they could never change him. Some people will always be great people, no matter what they’re faced with. That’s how I took the writing & the message of season 3.
As for the randoms making it to the end, that’s the most realistic thing they could have done. This show is heavily based on real life. The way that life isn’t fair & that the poor is treated terribly. Keeping the whole main cast alive until the last game would have strayed away from that. The ending of course was sad but it was very true to real life.
Also, giving the child with her winnings to someone who could take care of her definitely wouldn’t have been something he would have done had Gihun not sacrificed himself for her life.
It was truly a great ending in my opinion with many lessons.
I understand the VIP scenes, I just wish they weren’t so cringe.
I also think 456 gave the frontman a lot of his humanity back by almost always being selfless unless in dire situations. With Gihun giving the win to the baby so she’d have a chance at life, I think Inho felt it was only right to do something good for Gihun’s sacrifice.