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Oh okay, I caught up, that’s probably my fav ongoing now. I already downloaded the OST Desire4 , but I call them 4 looneys instead. I fr like them all so far, specifically bc they’re all not right in the head I’m sorry 😭 doctor is absolutely correct about “psycho”, only there’s a squad imo 😂

But Mr “How the hell can you beat people so severely and keep a calm graceful face?” is definitely my MVP so far 💀 with a whip that’s not his holy weapon lol when his eyes glowed pinkish purple was very pretty, dude really needs to be casted as a celestial. Like damn he’s the beauty he’s the grace.. with a borderline yandere headspace 🌚 watching him lie with that ethereal face is truly mesmerizing lol I love this

omg Xiao Hua what a gorgeous-fluffy-mantou-looking manipulative ass biatch you are, my fav type 😌 a carnivorous flower lmao

“only an idiot can rename company into X” I’m loling each time China trolls Musk since Spirealm haha

btw I’m genuinely always surprised at the amount of ppl commenting about not knowing omegaverse, I thought it was always in any fandom you’d step in since very ancient times of sterek, drarry, klance, stucky etc. So I just realized that apparently it’s not that usual to grow up like me on this appearing in BL novels and mangas but also in many fics knowing all about omega nesting, heats, ruts, marks etc etc. It’s just so hard not to encounter all this stuff no matter what fandom you’re in so I’m always like “wdym you don’t know? what fandoms you’re even in?” 👀

I think you had bad subs maybe, bc it said that they’re real sisters, they even have same family name

just got new fear unlocked: chinese censorship instead of killing gays and giving them tragic endings now gonna be making all them gays blood related

suddenly very grateful that Luo Weizhao didn’t become Fei Du’s long lost grandma and Wei Wuxian isn’t Lan Zhan’s uncle

I sincerely hope twists like this won’t touch our fav novels and are only available for original creations lololol

The scenes and references to american movies used in this for you: 10 things I hate about you (this we can skip bc it’s taming if the shrew adaptation), magic Mike, pulp fiction, kill bill, clueless, cruel intentions, grease, american beauty, dumb and dumber, cry baby… do I continue? lol don’t even let me start on other pop culture references from American celebrities like James dean to american shows to obviously as usual other Thai BLs references (since it’s GMM after all).

When did I insult you? I think your feeling of being insulted comes from within. It’s more than okay to love low quality stuff or badly written stuff, the problem is when you can’t admit to yourself that it’s low quality. Dude, who cares? In fact it was proven by scientists that most intellectual people at the end of the day love to watch garbage just to relax and unload that brain. I don’t know what got you so constipated lol

Jojo didn’t do a good job here, it’s a fact. You can still enjoy it tho. I don’t see what stops you. But telling yourself “it’s good written or shot” is self-deception.

I truly think you’re just confusing “campy” and “90s aesthetics”, bc by your description all 80s and 90s movies are campy and that’s not correct. but I agree, we all have our own views on things and it’s okay.

About the rock concert haven’t seen this comment, but that is already in the stereotypes territory and also yet again AESTHETICS. Jojo with THK really reminds me of the TikTok trends aka “seashore aesthetics”, “beige aesthetics” lmfao like if you go on Pinterest and type in “rock music” maybe that’s the exact thing that’s gonna pop. I haven’t thought much about it besides it being a reference to Patrick going to the concert of the group that Kat loved pretending he loved it too.

To me campy is just something else entirely. I mean it initially came from French word “exaggeration”. So far I haven’t seen anything in THK that can be considered over the top design wise. It’s just stereotypical normal 90s settings, clothes too. In fact it’s toned down from what ppl actually wore back them aka panties on pants and stuff lol

I’m gonna be killed here for this, but lately I’ve heard many using “campy” as a defense when the show stops making sense and it’s seen that it’s chaotically made (not in a good way, but in a careless way). So they start saying that all the mistakes are made on purpose or that it’s “supposed to make no sense”. But there are not many actually “campy” shows. From Jojo’s it’s Dirty Laundry for example. Or MamaGogo. These are campy. But THK is definitely not the campy genre. It’s a comedy, yes. Just because Style is extra and behaves pompously at times doesn’t make it campy. Campy is Joong in Guns & Mafia lol

It’s just many lately think that if they say “campy” it fixes everything. Kinda like some think about the word “arthouse”. That it can automatically turn garbage in a museum exhibit. Like “you don’t get that this plastic can means the freedom of the spirit” haha

Sorry, I went to sleep, I’m back lol

I understand that you’re upset that people notice these things but such things is not “nitpicking”, I’m sorry. It’s not any minor flaws or me trying to points out something out of hatred. I am maybe one of the most dedicated fans of Jojo, you can really ask me anything about any of his shows, I’ll answer you in details. That is why I truly am just shocked that I am watching what I’m watching. Even NLMG that has million of flaws that he himself pointed out I adore. Same as Dirty Laundry and Mama Gogo that is a literal definition of campy. THK is not though (no matter how some here are trying to state).

You can get upset all you want, it won’t change the fact that the direction here is awful, you’re just lucky that you have a blindfold on your eyes. It’s not an insult. If it gets you to enjoy the show, it’s a win for you, I don’t understand why you’re so upset lol

But just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean the other mean don’t. Besides directing there’s also an art to writing characters, to make people sympathize with them and root for them, to make viewer believe in their feelings and feel it with them. Here sadly it’s impossible for many viewers, hence the one dimensional thoughts of “he’s annoying”, “he’s bad” etc. These characters are grey and to write such characters with depth you need to do it in a way that correlates with ppl and as you see by many reviews it doesn’t. That’s also the reason why ppl are not obsessing with KantBison relationships. He failed to make ppl connected. FadelStyle caught most just bc the dynamics of hyperactive annoying and breaking down the roughy-toughy is always appealing, but trust me with how shallow they wrote their characters it will most likely die down too. Their love for each other is based on nothing, characters aren’t written properly. Stuff like one just casually dropping for one second “I’ve lost my mom to cancer” isn’t the way you make ppl care. It’s like imagine if NLMG started with Nueng coming up to Palm and saying “I’m sad and angry that someone killed my dad.”

You show the story, you engage the audience, you show it through many different things, you don’t just say this and go forest.

Anyways if you don’t get me you won’t magically get me and that is fine. But this is genuinely me being upset. And I genuinely all this time thought that the show is gonna get better. Enthusiastically. But sadly it only got worse. And again it’s not because it’s “not my type of show”. Sadly I just see the laziness when I see it.

Just the fact that you don’t see any references tells me that you’re not that familiar with film industry so lucky for you maybe you’re just genuinely don’t see things and that’s fine. Treasure this gift. Saying this unsarcastically

It’s like we’re speaking different languages lol editors are not magicians. If the shot was shot without a person, he can’t magically insert him there. Almost all of the mistakes I mentioned are shooting process mistakes. Directors are also usually involved during editing to guide the storyline.

About editing mistakes don’t even get me started. We’re gonna be here until next year.

And yes, maybe many ppl don’t wash their hands. But does the scene right after had to include touching a kid? No. It’s not funny it’s not realistic, for the viewers who watch these scenes one after another it’s just gross bc it’s a kid. There’s no need to combine such scenes.

You need to see which scenes you do in what order. Like for example you don’t zip your pants first and then pee. Bc it’s disrupts viewing process for most ppl who have eyes. Unconscious person can’t sit without leaning on something with his back, he would fall. Do you not get which things I mean? What editors have to do with this?

I really don’t know where you got that “I wouldn’t do that, so I don’t like it”, pls read my comment attentively, I specifically said that I’m not talking about people’s preferences and life views, I only talked about things like 1+1=5, water is dry and Jojo not seeing what he shoots. Aka simple things like two people standing together but in the next shot he’s alone, in the next they’re still together, Style touching his peepee and then touching a kid. Fadel dragging Style in front of all the police. What do you mean “I wouldn’t god this”. None of normal people would do this lol

That’s what I was basically saying. Even if the mic was hanging over their heads, most would be still like “well you just don’t like the show”. I don’t just don’t like the show. I’m just not blind when ppl don’t care.

About film references I don’t see how you don’t see. If you haven’t seen Pulp Fiction reference, then others you won’t see then.

That mom thing is obvious evil as you said yourself. She was only shown that way. That’s us what I said. Where did you get that I didn’t get it from the start? There were only two scenes with this woman, that were so on the nose, the only way they could improve it more is to give her a Dalmatian coat lmao Zero layers to the characters. What do you mean Fadel has no reason not to trust Style if he himself said that the fact that Style appears everywhere he is was the main reason. I get that for some “I’m lonely he’s pretty” is a great love story which of course would make the most untrusting person immediately give up all of his trauma and distrust and life values for a person who decided that grief meeting is funny. Just cause you want a normal life doesn’t at all mean that you can change 180 degrees for any dog who barks.

Maybe you haven’t seen many movies from that time, but sadly almost all of the scenes here are from iconic american movies. From Pulp Fiction to Clueless. And yes, they all just randomly thrown there, if you saw these you’d get it.

I’d gladly watch any ridiculous action scenes aka twisting bullets Wanted style and someone shooting 5 ppl with one bullet, I love those. I’m not talking about “realistic” action scene. But you gotta understand that action for the sake of coolness is one thing, while things like cutting the paper with a spoon is already entirely different thing. I’m 100% telling you it’s obvious that he forgot about the police part. Otherwise he would’ve knocked he out in any other place, I would say a word about one arm action I even if it’s still dumb. But this scene makes no sense, unless Fadel loves to create additional problems to himself as an arcade. Which is not the kind of person he is. He’s practical. He wouldn’t intentionally make himself a quest how to drag Style with one hand in front of all the policemen. Why would he need this? It simply needed to be shot in another place, that’s all.

I don’t understand why you’re taking so much offense with the fact that I just pointed out that director left a full camera in a shot. It’s just a fact. These mistakes are facts. It’s not opinions. I don’t say that you can’t enjoy the show or that you have no right to do so. You can read the characters as you’d like and add something from yourself and even wrote on the blank spaces all you want, it’s your choice. But it still won’t change the fact that the directors mistakes are facts, not opinions. You personally can ignore them, but they won’t magically disappear for others.

I think you mistake not liking the character and bad acting. Dunk was great in “Summer Night”. Director doesn’t give actors acting classes, he can only guide them in certain scenes explaining what their character feeling (if you saw any of jojo’s with actors bts), but he cannot help them act out the particular emotion. He can only explain. Style is just more lively and entertaining character than Dao or Zo (who is just a blank space for the most part of the show). Dunk said that playing “softboys” is incredible tough for him, but since he entered White and Style all seems fine. And also this is Dunk’s 4th main role. If he didn’t get at least a bit better, that would be a completely lost cause. It’s not on Jojo imo. And I wouldn’t say thar Dunk is incredible at acting in this one either. It just that the character’s awkwardness and comedy fits it all a lot. We’ll see how it’ll go in a dramatic scenes. Some scene still buffle me, like when Fadel cries hugging him, I still don’t understand Style’s face.

About inconsistency you can write an actual book, I’m just lazy. Pick one character at least. But if you truly believe in Fadel’s ep4 sudden falling in love unconditionally (when this whole site mind you thought that he was faking it lol) with Style and Kant’s feelings for Bison also believable to you, then to each their own. Our perception is different.

Inconsistency because he starts to tell one story than immediately drops it. The narration doesn’t flow at all. Characters just do things that are interrupted with random scenes from that 90s movie. We see character struggle with himself tremendously one episode, but the next it’s like not really, just kidding, we’re already telling another story. Character has major trust issues, oh wait he actually doesn’t. As First says you’re supposed to feel that Kant “also has feelings, not as heartless”, but as you see clearly people’s hearts struggle to get there and that’s the direction/storytelling’s fault, not Firsts. It’s not bc audience doesn’t understand that it’s bc of his parents, bc of his brother etc etc, it’s bc the director failed to engage the audience in this.

We can continue for a while about the fact that you don’t just drop things in the beginning just to resurface them in the end for the sake of “plot”, plot needs to flow. Not “hey mom is evil, check this shot of evil”, we’ll come back to it in ep12. Fadel has an ex, in this context it doesn’t matter, but just dropping it here randomly remember it for the finale. This is all not how you write stuff. Inconsistency bc you established that the building is full of police and then write how Fadel with one hand is gonna drag Style out of that building even tho he had no reasons or physical abilities to do this. Why do this scene at all? This is all just carelessness. Director doesn’t remember anything that happens before, dialogs contradict themselves, all is a mess. We’ve come to the point where an experienced director shoots a scene where a character just simply disappears from the frame.

I don’t know what really was happening on set, was it a rush or he just had to many ideas and decided to implement them all at once without thinking or his original ideas clashed with new ones, but that’s not it. It’s just some random salad carelessly thrown in. I love his love for aesthetics, I can see it here a lot, it seems to be working on some of that distracts ppl from cameraman in the shot, but to me no aesthetics can save badly written characters.

You’re lucky, enjoy :) I usually also don’t see any mistakes, especially when Joong is on screen, but this time it’s so in the face that even my pink glasses were stepped on haha

Maybe I just have a weird state of mind, where I hate to watch my faves in shitty shows. Bc all that I’ve been saying this year is that my fav teams got garbage shows.

About ratings I don’t care, I care about comments and the fact that ppl trend things without thinking. There’s no such thing these days, where you can actually detect that show is naturally popular in Thai BLs. It’s really all about whose fandom is on top. They will trend any show doesn’t matter if it’s a hemorrhoids ad. That makes them think it’s okay to just release a hemorrhoids ads. No one will convince me that they’ve put actual effort in this. People cannot be serious. As a person who was in a film school I 100% know not caring when I see it. Even basic things they dgaf.

I want most people just stop for a second about the trending craze, sit down and actually just watch wtf they’re watching. I seriously think that people atp just randomly tweet about scenes with their faves, but do not see the creation at all. There is just no way you think it’s good.

I rest my case about director being unable to do more than one good show per year. I don’t know how you can do 3 in a year.

it’s just the saddest part that you said “those outside the bubble can see the actual quality”, but I’m actually INSIDE the bubble lol. like it’s so bad that even my faves can’t blind me. you gotta really make an effort to achieve this level of negligence. I really wrote this just bc I’m sad. just sad fr. my brain can’t comprehend how they even made this :( let’s be honest, they had good director and they had good actors with great chemistry, they even had Shakespeare writing half of their shit for them.

Oh, f*ck, I’d write an essay on how awfully it’s made, but I feel like it’s a waste of time and nerves, but if appreciate if someone had a patience to do this, so maybe ppl would see that it’s not ok. it’s really not about tastes, it’s just about absolutely not caring about what they produced

Those who think it’s well directed and well written are just gaslighting themselves atp. I’m not kidding. I’ve seen all of Jojo’s work, I know what I’m saying when I say it’s ass. THK needs to have the rating of Unforgotten Night atp and tbh it’s debatable what’s better written and directed imo lol

And I really cannot express how I hate this new attitude of “it’s gonna be popular anyways”. I don’t know how to stop this honestly. I think it messed up the creators too, not just fans. It’s like the concept of writing quality characters and relationships got lost completely as p’Tha released this engagement trend. Maybe one day people will stop for a second and really look around and actually see what they’re watching.

It’s like yeah it’s P’Jojo, I love his works too. But does it change the fact that it’s terribly done? Hell, no. They might as well wipe their asses with these trends. I’d be embarrassed. I get that they need to get it out before the hype is dead. But that’s.. my god I have no words actually. Watch this happen to skynani new series. As soon as they see that something in on hype way, they’ll release it asap never mind that it’s gonna be garbage. Who cares, it’s gonna trend anyways. Someone save us fr.

It came to the point that when someone tells me they loved MLMU I know they’re G4 Stan, because the percentage possibility of this show being someone’s favorite is like 0,7%. And would there be someone else there no one would tweet about it. I’m serious. People can be upset all they want.

I miss times when people actually had eyes instead of just focusing of trending their fandom series. Time to go outside your fandoms and look around. Seriously. Things are getting out of hand. At this point they can pee with their pants on and just drive a car with a green screen without any editing and ppl are still gonna yell directing masterpiece and trend it till morning.

I’m sorry, but would there be no certain aesthetics and american culture reference, no way I would’ve guessed that this is jojo’s work. I haven’t seen such inconsistency for a while (even from imo the worst directors). It’s like okay character’s feelings development and actions make zero sense, it happens in many shows sadly, but basic human actions I thought he could at least direct. It’s really impossible to watch when you don’t even take into consideration what you wrote 2 seconds ago. What the hell happened, my dude? I’ve always been such a fan. Yeah, his works might not be perfect, but they always had soul to them, attention to details and character’s feelings and the directing was done really good. So seeing this after everything is just painful.

Also I don’t mind unrealistic stuff, but not in a way where soon characters are gonna be drinking from closed bottles. Couldn’t anyone on the team say that a normal human body is unable to do such things? Or that you can’t do some things with one hand? Or that you literally just wrote an entirely different thing just an episode ago? And a camera in the freaking shot????!

And trust me, I don’t take it seriously at all, I love unserious stuff. I dgaf like some about “unrealistic tattoos” and stuff, but not to the point where they clearly just don’t care. The editing, the sound, the writing, the music. Why god why. Been waiting for so long for JD to have an opportunity to finally be in a good show. For this to happen?

Like I’m happy so many are enjoying the show and it’s a success (I think?), but for me personally watching this show is so freaking sad. Many won’t understand this, but the fact that even with all of my bias I cannot overcome this says a lot.

I’m just thinking how aren’t you supposed to get better as a director with each work? How are you going backwards? I can accept all kinds of stupidity, but this is error on error with absolutely horrendously written everything. I am sorry.

Have nothing bad to say about Joongdunk or Firstkhao, you guys doing the best in what you’ve got. But imo this is awfully done not in terms of “it’s not my kind of show”, not bc I don’t like the genre or don’t understand that it’s “campy” or smth. I was open for any kind of things honestly. I’m saying it just because no one cared enough while making it. No one cared to write the characters or the plot. (Or they were just severely rushed maybe idk). It’s really just a bunch of references to American 90s movies and shows but not integrated into anything, but just thrown in. Now I’m scared how is he supposed to make three (!!) shows next year, if we can’t do one.

I get that you like american culture and 80s 90s references, I get that you like music, but that doesn’t mean that you need to shove all this in one place as much as possible without thinking just bc you wanted to shove it. And no, using 200 songs in 1 hour is not a great achievement. It’s a disaster, especially when the quality of the sound and transitions are so bad. Instead of this maybe it’s wiser to focus on characters and relationships development more instead of the “vibes”.

I don’t know what happened there really, but it pains me to see that we’ve come to this point tbh. I would pretend that I’m better than anyone who can accept anything their faves are in just bc they were waiting for a year for their show, but I’m actually sad about this development a bit. I’ve really lost this ability bc of a certain show in 2024 that traumatized me so badly that I don’t think it’s gonna come back.

I’m genuinely happy tho for ppl who are enjoying it and that more found out about joongdunk specifically bc I think their chemistry is really great, but sadly they have zero luck with shows they get. I’m starting to think it’s a curse.

Oh forgot also to say that I actually love me good NC when they’re intergraded into the plot and the characters very well, but imo NC scenes here are pretty wack. BDSM was lame ass and like if you can’t develop it, don’t do it at all imo and other scenes are also nothing special. Nowadays there are millions of beautifully done NC scenes very well choreographed in shows that are just slice of life and aren’t promoted as “spicy”.

Now I’ll accept all the “you won’t be missed” replies lol but I wasn’t here much in the first place, so it’s true. No one is gonna miss me lol it was just for the personal emotional release.

These support group scenes made him so unlikable to me, I really didn’t like that part at all. It’s not even funny to me. I love my flawed characters, but once they do something that makes me go “hell nah” and I stop liking them it’s a point of no return. Like I have different triggers. For example if a character hurts an animal it’s immediate goodbye for me, while I can easily like some character who killed 10 ppl lmao it’s just depends on things and context. I really don’t want Style to become unlikable to me, but if they continue writing him like this, it just might happen. And then I’ll already won’t even want him to be with Fadel lol and I really don’t want to feel that way. They better get a grip honestly, so far it’s all repetitive stuff that is not going anywhere, he has zero progress same as Kant and not even a glimpse of any dimension besides “I, me, mine”. At first it’s funny but it’s getting boring.

Oh I’ve seen all of the joongdunk shows, their chemistry is amazing even with the worst director of all (I won’t say who lol). And I even read all of the novels both about KluenDao and jokezoe. HA’s writing was also bad to me tho. The conflict there was weirdly done imo, well and the plot wasn’t there ofc it was just the relationship part I guess. My fav part there which I think to this day is iconic is their second kiss in front of Zo’s apartment. This was just chefs kiss, true cinema lol