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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 seriously so freaking sad that we’re not getting any of that, damn

No “baby” for us anytime soon or maybe not ever 🥲 and if Style distracts Fadel with sex while Kant searching for something, I’ll turn this off next week lol

my only somewhat plausible hope is that maybe since there was this quote “you’re either making me feel so scared or so damn safe”, maybe just maybe there’s gonna be some scene where he’s gonna protect him from someone, bc at least you know I can see how in some dangerous situations someone shielding you or protect you can make you develop feelings faster lmao

I just don’t see what else can make him suddenly go heart melting for him instead of being just scared after this info. bc if they’re gonna try to sell me that he’s gonna see a killer playing arcades and go “oh he plays arcades, he’s not that scary” I might just strangle some writers 💀

also I’m thinking now about Fadel coming to the garage and his home where his dad is. If Style knows that he’s a killer that also makes him such a.. not good son lmao with this scene of Kant telling him, they messed up so many things imo, I don’t see how to get out of this, what a disaster honestly. Can we hit Style on the head so he could get an amnesia and start over? 🌚

I also think they’re gonna be talking about their plan, and I don’t see what can happen in this episode to turn the sex scene into a love scene honestly. even if Fadel showed some vulnerability (that is again will be weird in the scenario of the show rn), I don’t see how it would make Style immediately go “oh my baby” lmao

you know my FadelStyle playlist after the novel was like “I need you so bad, even if I burn alive I don’t care, bc I can’t go back, now I’m your hostage” and songs like “Man on fire.mp3” and stuff like that

Now I’m watching the show and the soundtrack is more like “if you wanna play games, if you wanna play games” 😂

my excitement sadly went from 10 to 2, I just don’t see that being my show, my dumb hopes are tastes are at fault

yes, you get me in this aspect. these scenes were supposed to have an impact and develop the relationships but instead here the character’s action and reaction cancel everything out. we’re taking one step forward, then two steps backs. the feeling of any growing affection is absolutely not there bc of that and that’s super sad to me bc according to many interviews apparently episode 5 is gonna be the last one in building up FS’s story of going from hate to love and that’s just not it to me tbh. not only I don’t feel any of that building up, but also with Style being in Kant’s plan now it makes everything icky.

and imo Style is definitely not any close to falling in love with Fadel in this episode, so I don’t see how the hell right after finding out that he is an assassin he suddenly is gonna become head over heels. Make it all make sense fr. They 100% royally f*cked up the relationship build up at this point, I don’t see any way of fixing it. that Kant & Style talk before FS next ep love scene must be something magical, bc my mega creative mind cannot come up with anything that they might say that can fix it, it must be in some unicorn language lol

yeah like it had some outdated cringe moments, but it did super great in the romance department. the show tho is failing miserably in the romance aspect in my opinion. the atmosphere is just not any “taming of the shrew” or “10 things I hate about you” sadly. feels like gossip girl vibes instead lmao a lot of who’s gonna outplay who and “scheming” faces, but romance is not romancing, it starts romancing but then they immediately erase it with something for no reason. and instead of natural progress, all that you feel is that each character is an disingenious biatch lol and like I’ll watch OF2 next year, I wanted another vibes haha

That’s what I’m saying, they make this scene like “oh yes style finally starts to have feelings and doesn’t care only about his ego and the car” but then it’s like “sike just kidding”. I don’t like it. I’m not a fan of OF and I didn’t want all of this to turn into this.

The theory is that Fadel does it bc he suspects Style and Kant, so he uses this tactics bc Style wouldn’t back off. I mean the book’s version of Fadel who was hooked on Style is not here, that version where after sleeping with him, he got obsessed. Here his head seems clear, after their 2nd time he said he still prefers his hand. I don’t see Style overdosing his brain to the point of no thinking. The look he gave him in the gym after Style sweating and his inability to lie seems like we don’t have much power over the dude tbh lol and that’s a pity imo

I wanted it to be an intense falling in love story with angst, not a bitchy manipulation games of who’s gonna win more lmao

Also forgot to say that tbh I wanted it to be more of a love stories thing and an actual ROMcom (closer to 10 Things I Hate About You and MamaGoGo), less Only Friends vibe of everyone manipulating and betraying everyone, but you can’t always get what you want, it’s ok. For me now that they turned Style into second Kant and possibly Fadel into also yet another manipulation for manipulation (if my eyes and some theories are correct), it really reminds me of the OF atmosphere rather than any romance. Many might like it, but I’m not a fan of such development tbh. My hope was that so it would be very far from OF vibes. Yet the atmosphere feels closer to the everyone scheming and being full of themselves than the romantic one.

I’ve seen ppl already saying how god forbid they make Fadel a hopeless romantic the way he was in the novel bc it’s “too unrealistic”. (As if all this killers shananigans are very realistically done lol). But I honestly do not get what would be wrong if they made them as romantic as in the novel. Shucks. To each their own though, I get it. I lose here, I will go cry in the corner, bc I don’t think I will recover from the personal disappointment of never ever getting that Style finding out that the love of his life is a killer scene. I will complain about it to everyone until the pain goes away.

I understand tho that many ppl like OF and these kinds of things which they call “more realistic”, but my reality is really different and as someone who gets off on feelings, it’s sad for me that I don’t feel any warmth blooming here. Bc you gotta agree that the novel’s feeling of Style making this bet, then falling madly in love, his regret and that culmination of him finding out about Fadel that’s a romcom vibe. But Style making that bet, being proud of himself that he made Fadel fall for him, finding out that he’s a killer and deciding to play him again… that’s already a whole another tone. I’m probably bad at explaining but it’s more of “Cruel Intentions” vibes for now (also a bet about seducing someone and a bet on a car too lol, but that movie has quite cold vibes while “10 things I hate about you” is warm for example, it’s just different vibes). Like MamaGo has warm vibes, OF has cold vibes. Does anyone get me? lol

And I just remember how I was so happy after reading it bc I thought “oh it’s gonna be this type of show but now it’s not and it’s not anyone’s fault, but like I personally wish the vibe was different lol And I still feel that making two different genres of stories was very deceiving. Bc many ppl who prefer less romantic genre don’t like highly romantic genre and vice versa. They should’ve kept it same imo. OF is just not my type of show, so anything with its vibes is turning me off. At least if I knew I’d prepare myself for this better and had other expectations. If Fadel is gonna join the scheming squad, I’ll cry tbh. It just doesn’t suit him imo. OF lovers would win tho for sure. So congrats to those who love these types of shows. So far it feels like you’re gonna win this one.

the name is the same “the heart killers”, someone translated it on wattpad: https://www.wattpad.com/story/380655079

Same :((( their dynamics is so epic in the novel, I have a feeling that they’re just too much, so they decided that they would steal the show if they will be that way. So freaking mad about Style finding out about Fadel right now and in such lameass way :((( the scene is so dull.

it was also so fun that in the book there was like a proud hoe, a slutty virgin, a period movie romantic who can’t do sex no love, etc etc. here its like… not that fun for me. And what I definitely don’t wanna see is the dynamics of Joong chasing after Dunk who shies away from him again. The moment of them getting together was anticlimactic as it is and now we have Style running away from him, while mushy Fadel is being mooshy. Damn, will we really not see that scene of first time he cried too? I really don’t get why they hate intense things. Lukewarm is the new fad for sure. 100% we’re not getting the pointing the gun and Style crying in his arms “how dare you threaten me, don’t ever leave me” scene 😭😭😭 I so wanted all that!!! They’re so so epic there, my heart jumped so freaking much and here it’s like., blah

why oh why

All I can say is poor fans of the series who are going to buy a novel and poor fans who read the novel first and got that in terms of relationships.

That’s a personal opinion, but I think it was a mistake to turn everyone’s relationship in the same direction. Now Style is same as Kant and also knows the truth and plays with Fadel’s heart. Now he also same as Kant is afraid of Fadel. Why we need two of those idk. I truly think it’d be a much better idea if we same as in the book had different things going on and FadelStyle would be different. Fadel didn’t have to be same as Bison and be ok with one night stands. I think it was super fun how he got obsessed with Style and couldn’t get enough of him the first time they slept together and how Style was super in love with him and needy. Now it’s the zzzz dynamics of “I’m fine with getting myself off” and Style is scared of him being close? Nah.

Reading a book was a total mistake on my part. Bc then you expected all those long awaited epic FadelStyle get together that was on fire and that fire moment of Style finding out that he is an assassin, which is again so anticlimactic and boring here. Why did they make a novel so different idk. First time I’m seeing this happening with GMM’s original shows/books. Like it’s an original thing dude, write it the same way. Why the hell would you sell ppl thing that basically has nothing to do with the show. It’s not like it’s an adaptation of an author’s story written way before. Tsk. How to clear my head and watch it without what I’ve read. It’s like everything is so toned down here. So far I can see a lot of comedy and having fun watching this, but the intensity is just not there for me.

Saw a lot of ppl be like “I can’t wait for this moment where Fadel goes after Style bc he misses him so much” ahahahaha joke is on us tf did we read this. Waiting for the epic moment when Style finds out that Fadel is a killer? LMAO nah again just joking

it’s true that he hates being attracted to him and doesn’t want it to be like that, but the whole point is that he still IS and there’s nothing he can do about, hence the disappointment with himself when he jerked off to him, he considers it a weakness, but can’t fight it. same was when in this episode he watched him undress in the kitchen, he was clearly drooling and was surprised with his own reaction. I won’t spoil anything from the book but that part was the same aka he couldn’t fight it and hated himself for this. HE COULDNT fight it. Bc once you want someone you can’t just turn this off. That’s what Style did to him. Not seeing the building up and the fact that he wants him is wild to me, but I guess we all watch differently.

Again as I’ve written below even if I watch this scene from your point of view aka he somehow magically pretended he was on another planet and not with his dick inside of the person he really wanted, then all that kissing was out of place. If he wanted so badly to make him go away, he should’ve just as you said coldly f*ck and go, but the scene was just weirdly done imo. It wasn’t reflecting even what you’re saying either.

That’s fine, I just again after reading expected super intensity and again I’m in the same place I’m usually in lol I hope it’ll change, but with this development it’s kinda impossible to return to that climactic point, that was in the book the fact that he got so insane he couldn’t NOT fuck him. Here the climax is lost so far (no pun intended lol)

lovey-dovey at this point would be weird yeah, but again where is fadel who wanted his so much from before? he magically turned it off? you can be hot for someone without having feelings. style not really being that much into it I get at least. the whole scene was a weird choice imo. and if they wanted so badly to do it like “no feelings, just I’ll do him so he would get away from me” why he kissed him so much then. just turn him around and f*ck him then. it was just no this no that. it was just.. weird.

they could’ve had such an amazing explosion after this build up but yet again it’s the classic deflated balloon so far, but okay, I’ll wait for the next episode to see what is the idea of that.

it’s been shown already how much he wanted him in the sauna, when he jerked off to his body (which was super intensely and beautifully done) and in this episode when he watched him change. so I don’t see how it’s “no lust, no passion”. I’m saying this with all my love really, bc I love their story a lot, but that was just weird. the building up was that he wanted him a LOT. I understand that the show and the book are gonna be different. but I meant the build up in the SHOW was that he wanted him a lot.

they’ve had such magical build up the last episode, you could feel his frustration and want from mile away, in the beginning of this episode too and their sex scene just do not match all the previous narration in my opinion. In the book it made more sense, since you can’t both want someone so badly and sleep with them indifferently. it’s either first or second. understandable the lack of feelings, but the lack of passion isn’t. that’s just my opinion. the build up was just stomped on, I hate anticlimactic stuff that’s all

But.. but the coolest part of the story was that Fadel got to the point of wanting Style so much that he snapped, I do not get what’s the point of changing it to something so anticlimactic and lukewarm. I’m not gonna give up or be disappointed in advance, but I really do not get this decision personally. These two were the most romantic part of this whole thing. I really start to think that ppl just hate emotional rollercoasters, like do you really have to dull everything down when it comes to relationships? I mean it’s not like the plot of this is gonna be super epic either (if you know). I really hope I’m wrong and they know what they’re doing, bc if they can’t deliver in the relationships aspect then it’s gonna be a bummer tbh. Hopefully it will somehow rule out into the fire they’re supposed to be. That ending was meh to me. Don’t shoot me.

Ohmleng are super hot as usual, but Mix and Leng’s encounter with them being petty bitches was just chefs kiss lmfao the way he walked off 🤣 love them. Never thought I’d get EM with OL in such show together

Yes, I always say the biggest tragedy is when the series doesn’t know what it is supposed to be. In this case nothing will help you. And even some basic series can outdo you if it does know what it is and hits the points that viewers love.

But I like many different genres, and when I sat to watch J&J my thoughts were that honestly I would be happy with whatever: from action drama to action comedy to romantic comedy with bits of action to melodrama, just pick something CONSISTENT, so it wouldn’t be like “I don’t get whether it’s fish or chicken or ice cream with mac and cheese” 💀 it’s like a lot of different cloth pieces that can’t even make one decent blanket bc they’re all different sizes and do not fit together. First episodes were set up for me to care about two main leads, but then suddenly it’s about a bunch of random people they want me to care about while they simultaneously destroy the possibly of me liking the main lead with the most ridiculous plot twist from 90s and idk how to sympathize the character who steps in the same pile of shit several times, instead of actually try to walk around it maybe lol. That’s not grey, that’s just dumb. You’re supposed to feel sympathy for the main character and I can’t care for anyone who is written like this.

And Imo the worst turn you can do is make the viewer dislike the character due to some twist. That’s the worst. Morally grey characters usually become more attractive to people for many reasons (mainly also bc we’re all people), but you gotta be careful still, bc for example if you wrote the main character walking on the street and kicking a kitten while he’s upset its not grey it’s just instant despise from most, so like choose wisely not to turn ppl away from the main character. Famous person once said there’s a difference between “flawed “ and “unlikable”. Even some villains sometimes are attractive or empathetic to viewers depending on how you write and present them, but there’s nothing worse than people finding a character “unlikable”. That’s the fail you can’t overcome. It’s game over. Even hated character is better than unlikable.

And there is not even any deep meaning here, they’re trying, but it’s just not there. And I hate when it happens. If I had to pick between the series that is trying to be deep and pander to social problems while it clearly can’t and it turns out absurd and the one who doesn’t try it and just entertains ofc I’ll pick the last option. Just because you either go full in and dedicate yourself to this or you just do not try pls.

I also like you prefer escapism to realism personally bc life is f*cked up as it is idc that much about watching tragedy on screen that ends in tragedy with biography themes, but at times I do love realism if the mood strikes (and it has HE). But here they can’t deliver on that either. It’s not doing justice nor to political situation, nor to humor nor to the romance nor to action AND I dislike the character now? I feel like someone offered me a peach dipped in mayo and suggested to wash it down with hot chocolate with vinegar and was like “yeah actually it’s 8.9, Michelin stars meal” 🤡 I still see that it’s a peach dipped in mayo tho

No, but in all seriousness Kidnap combined all the tropes from the best fics that I love and shoved it in my face with amazing chemistry 🫠

Oh yeah also about OSTs besides being awesome, can we also discuss the video content in those?? It’s so freaking delicious, these two know what they’re doing 💯💯💯

I’m sorry in advance for saying this, but I hate We Are, it’s just that it’s awful writing and non-existent characters (characters are super important to me) and romance was not my type of romance, plus assembly mess is just not my thing along with this director’s views on relationships and never-ending loop of the same thing. I respect all the tastes tho. It was my fault for tuning in bc I in advance knew that it wasn’t my thing. I can admit that it was exactly what it was advertised as, so those who love such shows probably were satisfied.

Kidnap tho oh Kidnap is my fucking jam right now. It promised romance, it freaking delivered. Only one couple focus (that’s my favorite), characters are actually interesting, complex and lovable. The epic dumbass romance novel passionate kiss and “I will die for you” that’s my favourite 😍😍😍 and btw Ohm’s fights are top notch there, which is a bonus. Like that’s what I want, even tho the action plot is kinda silly too, it’s still there and it enhances the romantic part, which is hella romantic 👌🏻

It’s just here I personally I do not understand what is it supposed to be. It’s not high-quality exciting action, it’s not elaborate plot, it’s definitely not a romance. You gotta be good at at least something. And for real there’s nothing I hate more than when they insert so many characters to the point where you don’t even know who is main anymore. It’s called “Jack&Joker” after all. They needed maybe to call it “JJ’s gang “ or something then idk.

Also I think ppl are truly interesting sometimes when they have blinders on, but it has SO MANY outdated unfunny stuff, like top/bottom bleeding during sex jokes. And I’m like… I feel like it would be already bashed if it was in some… certain company production or with unknown actors. Same with out of place garnier commercial and toilet humor in almost every episode. But here it’s suddenly we do not see it 😂

And I’m saying it as a Yinwar fanatic, who was (if anyone remembers from my first comments) extremely excited about the whole thing.

my rule is like: I can take any silly dumbass angst twist/turn as long as you deliver on the romance part for me. if you don’t deliver, then you lose your rights to make such turns, I’m sorry 😂 that is my rule

I do not mind if the quality plot have little romance (it’s not my fav, but I can accept when I have the mood), but if we’re stepping on the silly BL tropes territory AND it has little romance I’m already like.. why am I here lol

the sad part for me is like that the acting is so so good :( I wanted this show to be my thing, but it’s already ep8 and I wasn’t really on the same train as all people here adoring it before this episode plotwise, but now I’m already off the rails completely. marriage is waaay over the top silly, but hope don’t die, maybe they magically (only magic atp) deliver on relationship part somehow. idk.

my fav thing is great plot + great romance that’s ideal. plot with little romance and romance with little plot I can accept sometimes if the plot is very good or romance is very good, but no good plot no good romance is where I draw the line lol you gotta have at least one, at least one pls

yeah I kinda noticed that lately some words have been used so many times in the wrong context that they’ve lost their original meaning already