InspectorMegre

you did, indirectly :) by never mentioning that, but focusing on her alleged plastic :)
If you really think she is an excellent actress, you would be talking about THAT

And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :) and even there, a woman can perhaps escape if she really wants to :)
You do not know what it takes to escape ? :)
THE FIRST THING IS YOUR OWN MONEY
AND WILLINGNESS TO LET GO OF THE GOLDEN CAGE
WILLINGNESS TO STAND UP FOR ONESELF AND IF NEEDED, **MOVE**

bc if you are unwilling to do so, you lose YOURSELF, and you stay stuck surrounded by bad ppl

And some bad ppl and bad patriarchial vibes are unavoidable however a woman who has matured enough will be able to maneuver

Yes I did write that Ms is trained by patriarchy, seems like you missed that

you bring up the point i did not mention - that women are bribed to stay in that bc of the perks. AND SOME LOVE IT!!! you should talk to "princesses" who dont work, have house help and money - they love it...

I also wrote that BOTH Mr. Kim and Ms Kim are victims of patriarchy

You are trying to make Ms Kim "nice". She is not nice :) She is not a victim any more or less than Mr. Kim...
Mr. Kim is sacrificed to die at the corporate desk. He is a SLAVE too, just with more privileges :)

Good acting makes it so
and a good script

Whoever wrote it, has corporate and family experience :)

Ms Kim is an ENABLER

that fundamentally has nothing to do with sexism but with ADDICTION TO TOXIC BEHAVIORS

and it is her fault that she knows and says that she spoiled her husband and that he is abusing her and still she does nothing. She has MADE herself into a victim and is not taking any steps to move on

And it is totally her fault. When life slaps you like that, you gotta fight back or you die :) She is dieing and doing nothing about it. She is an addict of sorts too.

and bc she is the abused party, she must take action to protect herself AND HER CHILD ... AND THE MAN SHE LOVES

so.. the ball is in her court and she gotta move it move it...

and yeah, it is NOT easy but has to be done :) in small steps.

By ep 4 she took a small step and signed up for the real estate exam. That counts..

And you - I am not sure what you are - but it is likely you are either you are some entitled male or some doormat female enabler.

I cannot stand doormat female enablers. They make life difficult for everyone. THEY CREATE AND SUPPORT MR KIMS

WITHOUT THEM, MR KIMS CANNOT EXIST LIKE THAT

The woman is the smarter and deeper of the genders, more sensitive and intuitive, and has a lof power to change things. When women refuse to do so, it is just pathetic

Yeah that DO NOT was super confusing in the subs at that very last scene LOL

Yeah seems like it was error in subtitles translation...

I had to rewatch parts of Ep 98 to check what was given in that envelope - did it say YES or NO - so I had to rewatch the conversation between Stell and Teo Joo and ralized I was asleep through most of it... so .. now I can say - Wooow....!!! what swindlers!!!!
STELLA IS NO BETTER OR DIFFERENT THAN GC AND THE KIND!!!!
so she thinks that someone can beat up someone and lead to their death, and get out without any consequences IF THEY ARE HER FAMILY. *IF*

and if they are not, then sure, they should be punished.

Everything that we talked about, is going to happen, Stella is an evil douchebag as GC and the rest.

Lucia is not much better. To act lovingly to SeRi and to think that she wants to strangle her .... is very cruel torture to Se Ri, who by now, surely deserves a better treatment.

it will be so disappointing when SeRI discovers she was swindled by a hater camouflaged as a mother
and then yeah the cruel slave owner supposedly bio-mom camouflaged as a sister

And Manager Gong is getting into the family picture for sure :)

AH IT IS ALL GOING TO EXPLODE SOON! TIME FOR THAT!

you seem to be a smart and observant thinker.
Indeed, the scripts show lack of experience... and wisdom. And thus.. lack of solutions :)

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I cannot really relate to your experiences in the UK bc I am not familiar with that world. Western /Norther / Eastern / Southern Europe does not interest me LOL never interested me...
My name here is what my mother calls me when she is angry that I expose her LOL

But th little that I dabbled, this is what I learned about it.

I am familiar with Mind Your Language and Keeping Up Appearances sitcoms, and also of course comics by Mr. Been :) It says a lot what UK is like...

I have tons of friends from India and China bc I went to school in the USA

The only time I visited the UK was to go to a wedding of a friend of mine in some part of London and that .. was ... disappointing - the white colonizers in full blast.... sexism... small mindedness... And London itself - so ... creepy.... really creepy... I could "hear and feel" screaming from the dungeons LOL it felt so opressive and everyone looked so bloated and unhealthy, I guess the infamous english food got them really really grumpy LOL

and then I took a bus to Glastonberry (out of the festival, I wanted to see the sacred Druid land) and I had a meeting with the ancient England, I felt like magical beings are gonna jump out any time, everything felt so steeped in ancient mystery and 100000% MAGICAL. I went to the well and sat with huge oaks and tall nettles..

And then everything that England did... with colonization and neo colonization and industrial revolution ... it seems as if England was a place of some ancient civilization that perhaps was quite advanced and then something evil took over and stayed there and spread over the world. TO be honest, that's my hunch.

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So in short, I can barely relate to your life experiences bc I have not lived near something that you live in. I think it is pretty loaded, to be honest, a lot of history.

So yeah, sharp thinking is the only way to survive :)
Or just be asleep like the rest LOL Or move to Australia or New Zealand for warmer sunnier life :) Just kidding.

I think your conditions are starting from there and from there, you move forward.

So I wish you good luck in proceeding from there.

Use your gift of observation, and with self reflection, the discernment

Aloha

yeah that's right, giving the fake test will push GC and Stella together :) and replace SJ :) why would he want that... ? he said he is doing only things to keep her afloat so that he can live...

Who is Gae Dong?

Wow great discussion here everyone, this cleared up a lot! Thanks for the insights.

So please help me to clarify after ep 99:
1. At the end of ep 98, SJ opened the envelope and it said DO NOT.
2. Then he gave the envelope to the advisor at the *very* end of ep 98.
ON SOME SITES, THE SUBS SAY THAT THE ENVELOPE SAYS "DO NOT" AND ON SOME SITES, THE SUBS SAY THAT THE ENVELOPE SAYS "DO" So that is error in translation?

But based on ep 99, it is clear that SJ changed it to DO and gave it to the "Advisor" .
Even if subs in ep 98 said DO NOT, that was some kind of error in translation OR it was SJ's fantasy. What really happened is that the receiver got a tampered envelope with DO....

So all the discussion about him giving the untampered envelope are obsolete already.

==== FYI different platforms have different subs for the end of ep 98... ====
On Monday, the subtitles at the end of ep 98 giving it to "Advisor" said DO NOT but then ep 99 made it clear the receiver received DO ..... so I rewatched the same scene subtitles of ep 98 again on Tuesday - on another site - and it says DO.... ??

BUT I JUST WATCHED THE SAME SCENE ON YET ANOTHER, THIRD, SITE AND THE SUBTITLES SAY " DO NOT" .

What the changes... ? The subs are different on different sites..

By Ep 99, it is clear the receiver got a tampered envelope that says DO

what's going on? Did I miss an episode or the subtitles were off on Monday and corrected on Tuesday... ?? Are subs with DO NOT just a fantasy of SJ? But then why do different platforms have different subs...???

In any case this is solved. The receiver got the DO :)

Thank you.

There are theories that MiSo and Se Ri are switched at birth by Ms. Gong the housekeeper - I think Zango posts described it

I have lived in the USA for like 40 years and most people I know do NOT have a father at home. In some white poor rural areas, kids make fun if a guest family arrives with a father..... And, almost by default, African Americans do not have a father at home.

As for ML, his reaction to FL trying to "hug him" ie close the laptop lid indicates that he is very naive with women, so he looks like a good and naive boy who got mixed up with a wrong woman and was left with a child. His suspicions about FL and his fighting skills... can come from legitimate training in class, maybe he even competed. Or maybe not :) As you said...

But you are right, we do not get to learn about him at all, he is more of eye candy for the drama. That actor seems new - at the start of the drama, he was sooo bad at acting :) Luckily he later improved. So perhaps the filmmakers didnt want to give him too much acting, beyond his capacity to handle.

The villain is a psychopath of a caliber that can only have a mean expression LOL She is a serial killer. I think dramas like Flower of Evil and Mantis are educational on that topic

I think since you got a good eye for holes in the script, you should write about that ASAP so that the drama makers adjust asap. Dramas are typically made as aired and audience feedback is taken into account

Sure! that kind of miracle happens often in this script LOL but DMS was going to kill him anyways bc TK's existence is a liability. DMS was already looking for TK....

on goplay

I love the scene when Oldest Son and his wife meet at the lobby of Mingang in ep 99. Because the tan-brown blotchy short jacket he is wearing looks stunning on him and also he smiles and looks happy, and he looks really handsome. He CAN smile. Many of those model actors and even famous actors like AlienDoMin cannot smile :)
I remember when OldestSon was at the mic for some party - I think the competition between online and onground teams? He was fantastic!!!! so cheery and fun he is a GREAT HOST. That actor should have his own guest talk show or something like that

I cannot see how TK could stay out of trouble :) DMS will try to kill him - unless he gets a fatal brain attack and dies before that

Omg unbelievable LOL Trust anything that Lawyer gives you or says or does... WOW STUPID lol