because kdrama viewers only understand if such plots shown as serious thriller...they are not much familiar with…
Nah western/westernized audience these days is so shallow and mental.... super rarely understands complex or paradox or satire or warm compassionate light joyful tragicomedy... like Koreans do :)... The West used to have it but it has become extinct!!!! ... .... . and young ppl globally dont have it bc they are westernized and sterlized, couch potato, indoors, mental, ..
The comments here feel more like an FL hate forum.Not only that, everyone is a monster in their eyes except ML.…
Hello, arent you behaving in a toxic reverse sexism? I saw your posts. You are playing favorites.... in blind hatred of ML, stating false facts to condemn him, and in blind justifications of anything FL does, good or bad. . YOU ARE NOT GOING TO OVERCOME SEXISM BY REVERSE SEXISM :)
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Hm I understand your point about having realistic people and behaviors, and FL in this drama was realistic. HOWEVER, some of her realistic behaviors were severe and rather evil weaknesses and errors. CAN YOU ACCEPT THAT?
Yeah sure sometimes weakness/error is tolerated, and sometimes it causes immense immense damage, like that man losing his legs forever bc FL refused to provide medical service to him bc FL was feeling bitter. Feeling bitter is not an excuse to ruin someone's life. FL WAS EVIL IN THAT MOMENT OF REFUSAL. If you are brave, you will be able to look at that weakness/error without judging and condemning.
You are also promoting false information to falsely justify FL, like "who knows where ML was when his daughter was brought to the hospital". That is a lie. We know he was in surgery.
It was ME who stated the realism, and it was the other person who tried to find excuses for it. As if realism excuses FL from being responsible. No it does not.
Not everyone is strong. You are saying, you want to see weakness of women be pardoned and tolerated - perhaps bc you want your own weakness and errors to be tolerated and pardoned. It is wise to see it and then correct it bc then you create good karma, otherwise it boomerangs back to kill ya :)
In the USA, it is a BAD idea to own an apartment or town home, anything that has common funds. Or else you gonna live in misery and under constant theft. Yes it is cheaper at first to buy a condo, BUT then for the rest of your life, you gonna be paying about $1500 per month for condo dues, PLUS tens of thousands of dollars for special repairs, just like ML asked everyone to pay in ep 7. And if you cannot pay, they take your condo. Also, they fine you, sue you, and take your condo anyways. So your cheap condo is a LOT MORE expensive than any house you would buy, plus it creates a constant headache and risk of losing your property https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrizmAo17Os
Up to ep 6, it is quite a realistic view of what you would see as an owner. The gullible greed of small ppl creates this crime - ppl side with whoever gives them a free heating bill... listen to any bser .... and ignore all kinds of stuff that matters, incl. theft of 17 billion won..... .
Ep 6, 7 gets into stuff above owners' heads to create plot. However... this ONE big villain is a very simplified real life... real life is a LOT worse.....
In real life, there are bribed attorneys and judges who sue and condemn owners to steal their apartments. That is routinely done in the USA, esp Hawaii and other corrupt states.
Also the people on top are related to big jobs, like money laundering, drugs, etc. Construction and property management is a cover up for that. The entire government gets bribed, eg legislators work for the bad guys. Also, media NEVER dares to report any of this. This is the reality of life in the USA if you own a condo or town home.
Ju Sung made fame by horsing around and looking like a crazy guy in control BUT I think I really liked his acting for the first time in eo 4 minute 33 elevator scene where he looks confused and hurt. THAT was great acting. So real and memorable
i am surprised the elections for president were not rigged In apartment complexes in the USA, esp Hawaii and other corrupt states, voting tickets are routinely manipulated/forged/miscounted/....
I am on ep 3 The initial President is such a great bser, he is sooooo real .... This whole drama really nails how apartment buildings run in real life
All the thefts and methods they describe in this drama are 100% real. EVERYTHING that the ArtisticFather Lizard said are 100% real
And it is so real that we have that ordinary Adjuma who actually takes care of the building but lacks political savvy and of course sexism is against her
ML won building rep bc he, for once, did the right thing - bc he listened to his "wife"... God works in strange ways but I surely hope that this drama is not going rosey glasses way where the gang miraculously transforms into good ppl. On the other hand it is possible, IF THEY DEFEAT THE VILLAIN GREATER THAN THEM ie Mr Lee
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Well good question. When was the bag taken out of his car? It is a large heavy bag so it took a little bit of time to take it out and put it into another car ...
If the bag was gone before ML drove to Kidnapper's house, some random thief OR Kidnapper OR someone trailing ML - someone from Chairman's side, for example, could have taken it
If the bag was gone while ML was inside Kidnapper's house, then it is most likely the Kidnapper who took it - some time BEFORE he hit their car... bc ML was inside Kidnaper's house for a while and Kidnapper had plenty of time to raid ML's car.. ....
after Kidnapper hit their car, he was chasing ML-FL so he didnt have the time to deal with the bag... - this is my approximate memory, I forgot the exact time sequence
The next logical thing is that some policeman took it while everyone went after the Kidnapper - but that would be hard...
Episode 9 seems to be a stepping stone episode for tomorrow's crucial one(s) for lots more answers to be finally…
yeah the twists are swell :) To me watching a drama is trying to be Sherlock Holmes, we are given some cues and then we test our observation and analysis skills :) And there is no consequences if we fail :) that's the best part, this is a great practice in becoming a better Sherlock Holmes :) All the acting is very applicable to real life, we watch actors body language, words, vibe, etc and we trace what's going on. It is fun to me, like going on a treasure hunt :)
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1. You made up that "ML was who knows where doing who knows what" when his daughter was injured. Please rewatch that bc your memory is incorrect. The fact is, ML was in the official surgery in the hospital when his daughter was brought to the hospital. There was NO WAY to yank him out of that surgery.... and he is totally justified in not helping his daughter and FL is totally unjustified for blaming hi for it. Also ... operating on his own child... could he even do it.. ? Is he a superman? Also - in such a great hospital that her family owns, arent there other great doctors? Did ML have to save her??? DID FL EVEN CALL HER PARENTS FOR HELP????
I think ML made a mistake when he got out of surgery and his daugher was already dead. he did not console his wife well. And she was attacking him so yes it would be difficult to console her, but he was unable to provide ANY comfort to her. That is his robotic unalive side that has to improve
2. Your moral compass is off with the emergency patient and general hospital situation. There is absolutely no excuse for refusing life saving service, no matter how "bitter" you might feel. Also, you are promoting unprofessionalism, no matter how "bitter" FL is, she is not entitled to be harming ML's job and professional reputation and harassing him
3. Sure FL told police that ML saved her but she quickly grew silent when everyone insisted he faked it. She was an unreliable chicken snowflake there. She essentially betrayed him and sent him off to jail. She sided with her family and ditched ML
Episode 9 seems to be a stepping stone episode for tomorrow's crucial one(s) for lots more answers to be finally…
ok i understand what you are saying, ML's wife might be "clean enough" now, she helped ML with the files ONCE. But did she really make a U-turn or will she still side with her family? TBD
She has butter on her head and has to work that out and make a clear U-turn to convince me she is truly "clean". Seems like she is on the good path now, I just want a confirmation she is staying on it
Something has to click for her to realize she was played by her parents and their pawns, and to make a full determination that she is on ML's side
So to me this is good storytelling. The character starts flawed and gradually improves until they are able to "get over the hill and see the light"
Episode 9 seems to be a stepping stone episode for tomorrow's crucial one(s) for lots more answers to be finally…
causing trouble to ML bc he took that emergency patient instead of VIP and generally being hostile towards him, siding with her parents she and her parents were causing major trouble to ML at work and pushing ML out and making him known as "the bad guy"
then when he tried to save her and she stood there dissing him instead of running away
and then when he was captured by police although he saved her - she didnt defend him and just went along with her parents. She watched him being taken to jail without saying one word and went home with her parents
Reminder: that is life.... love triangles, quadruples etc manyangles lol that's how it goes for anyone who is sociable, attractive and/or popular
It is typical that an "unattractive" or "less desirable" person has a crush on someone and is forming at least an invisible triangle :) Also, a man in the USA likely has zillion women "angleing" him
Only isolated and/or mean dont have someangle going on.
Another love triangle another overused story about the FL loving the SML while the CEO slowly develops feelings…
that is life my dear. love triangles, quadruples etc manyangles lol that's how it goes for anyone who is sociable, attractive and/or popular Only undesirable isolated slobs dont have it going
Episode 9 seems to be a stepping stone episode for tomorrow's crucial one(s) for lots more answers to be finally…
ML's wife is not innocent, she was a pawn of her father, those scenes where she refuses emergency service to a patient in a life threatening condition bc a scheduled VIP client with a minor problem would have to wait for 1 hr.
ML's wife acted quite evil and helped to harm and get rid of ML At least she is helping ML now And psychologist is the key in trying to split up ML-FL YES indeed how was that taxi audio created...
WHY all this effort to get rid of ML and also his wife? And... was harming their child a part of the plan.... ????
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO OVERCOME SEXISM BY REVERSE SEXISM :)
Yeah sure sometimes weakness/error is tolerated, and sometimes it causes immense immense damage, like that man losing his legs forever bc FL refused to provide medical service to him bc FL was feeling bitter. Feeling bitter is not an excuse to ruin someone's life. FL WAS EVIL IN THAT MOMENT OF REFUSAL. If you are brave, you will be able to look at that weakness/error without judging and condemning.
You are also promoting false information to falsely justify FL, like "who knows where ML was when his daughter was brought to the hospital". That is a lie. We know he was in surgery.
It was ME who stated the realism, and it was the other person who tried to find excuses for it. As if realism excuses FL from being responsible. No it does not.
Not everyone is strong. You are saying, you want to see weakness of women be pardoned and tolerated - perhaps bc you want your own weakness and errors to be tolerated and pardoned.
It is wise to see it and then correct it bc then you create good karma, otherwise it boomerangs back to kill ya :)
Ep 6, 7 gets into stuff above owners' heads to create plot. However... this ONE big villain is a very simplified real life... real life is a LOT worse.....
In real life, there are bribed attorneys and judges who sue and condemn owners to steal their apartments. That is routinely done in the USA, esp Hawaii and other corrupt states.
Also the people on top are related to big jobs, like money laundering, drugs, etc. Construction and property management is a cover up for that. The entire government gets bribed, eg legislators work for the bad guys. Also, media NEVER dares to report any of this. This is the reality of life in the USA if you own a condo or town home.
BUT
I think I really liked his acting for the first time in eo 4 minute 33 elevator scene where he looks confused and hurt. THAT was great acting. So real and memorable
In apartment complexes in the USA, esp Hawaii and other corrupt states, voting tickets are routinely manipulated/forged/miscounted/....
and the drama plot about apartment frauds and politics and stealings is extremely realistic, those are most common behaviors
The initial President is such a great bser, he is sooooo real .... This whole drama really nails how apartment buildings run in real life
All the thefts and methods they describe in this drama are 100% real. EVERYTHING that the ArtisticFather Lizard said are 100% real
And it is so real that we have that ordinary Adjuma who actually takes care of the building but lacks political savvy and of course sexism is against her
ML won building rep bc he, for once, did the right thing - bc he listened to his "wife"... God works in strange ways but I surely hope that this drama is not going rosey glasses way where the gang miraculously transforms into good ppl. On the other hand it is possible, IF THEY DEFEAT THE VILLAIN GREATER THAN THEM ie Mr Lee
If the bag was gone before ML drove to Kidnapper's house, some random thief OR Kidnapper OR someone trailing ML - someone from Chairman's side, for example, could have taken it
If the bag was gone while ML was inside Kidnapper's house, then it is most likely the Kidnapper who took it - some time BEFORE he hit their car... bc ML was inside Kidnaper's house for a while and Kidnapper had plenty of time to raid ML's car.. ....
after Kidnapper hit their car, he was chasing ML-FL so he didnt have the time to deal with the bag... - this is my approximate memory, I forgot the exact time sequence
The next logical thing is that some policeman took it while everyone went after the Kidnapper - but that would be hard...
All the acting is very applicable to real life, we watch actors body language, words, vibe, etc and we trace what's going on. It is fun to me, like going on a treasure hunt :)
The fact is, ML was in the official surgery in the hospital when his daughter was brought to the hospital.
There was NO WAY to yank him out of that surgery.... and he is totally justified in not helping his daughter and FL is totally unjustified for blaming hi for it. Also ... operating on his own child... could he even do it.. ? Is he a superman?
Also - in such a great hospital that her family owns, arent there other great doctors? Did ML have to save her??? DID FL EVEN CALL HER PARENTS FOR HELP????
I think ML made a mistake when he got out of surgery and his daugher was already dead. he did not console his wife well. And she was attacking him so yes it would be difficult to console her, but he was unable to provide ANY comfort to her. That is his robotic unalive side that has to improve
2. Your moral compass is off with the emergency patient and general hospital situation. There is absolutely no excuse for refusing life saving service, no matter how "bitter" you might feel. Also, you are promoting unprofessionalism, no matter how "bitter" FL is, she is not entitled to be harming ML's job and professional reputation and harassing him
3. Sure FL told police that ML saved her but she quickly grew silent when everyone insisted he faked it. She was an unreliable chicken snowflake there. She essentially betrayed him and sent him off to jail. She sided with her family and ditched ML
She has butter on her head and has to work that out and make a clear U-turn to convince me she is truly "clean". Seems like she is on the good path now, I just want a confirmation she is staying on it
Something has to click for her to realize she was played by her parents and their pawns, and to make a full determination that she is on ML's side
So to me this is good storytelling. The character starts flawed and gradually improves until they are able to "get over the hill and see the light"
and generally being hostile towards him, siding with her parents
she and her parents were causing major trouble to ML at work and pushing ML out and making him known as "the bad guy"
then when he tried to save her and she stood there dissing him instead of running away
and then when he was captured by police although he saved her - she didnt defend him and just went along with her parents. She watched him being taken to jail without saying one word and went home with her parents
It is typical that an "unattractive" or "less desirable" person has a crush on someone and is forming at least an invisible triangle :) Also, a man in the USA likely has zillion women "angleing" him
Only isolated and/or mean dont have someangle going on.
Only undesirable isolated slobs dont have it going
ML's wife acted quite evil and helped to harm and get rid of ML At least she is helping ML now
And psychologist is the key in trying to split up ML-FL
YES indeed how was that taxi audio created...
WHY all this effort to get rid of ML and also his wife? And... was harming their child a part of the plan.... ????