this turned into a race of the dumbest so much could be solved if they just revealed the connection between Seorin…
the cops cannot go against a chaebol who called the minister... and JM is between rock and hard stone - Grandpa cares only for the stock SO IT COULD TURN OUT that Chairman doesnt like the idea that JM exists, and just lets HY kill JM.....
Ah I get it.. A true, real, good story has 3 parts: PART 1: FLAWS AND SUFERING FROM IT, PART 2: EFFORTS AND SUFFERING AND FIGHTS IN OVERCOMING, and PART 3: WIN AND TRANSFORMATION or to be precise WIN BY TRANSFORAMATION, the transformation itself is a win, but by paradox, there are often tangible wins too in daily life Hwood and cdramas have only part 1, and all real kdramas have all 3 parts.
Hwood-style is similar to Chistians focusing only on the story of Jesus on the cross, and totall failing to put attention on his RESURRECTION. But the resurrection is the critical part of that one story, and the whole point of the story
I would dare even say: the resurrection is the whole point of the story even existing :) It is the meaning of the Creation :) the story of the prodigal son, of us having a free will and VOLUNTARILY aligning it with the Divine Will.
What is the Divine? for all practical purposes, it is the Law of Karma :)
in practical terms, it is us humans making decisions based on EITHER love OR fear :) there is no middle way :) it is either-or - either you do somethiing based on love or based on fear. "doing something" can be choosing to think certain thoughts and feel certain emotions. Thouths and emotions come and go totally without our control, so it is a lost game to stop them, but we DO have a choince to hang onto them or not. That is the essence of applied meditation and being enlightened, really.
I think Buddhists explain it the best, and esp Tibetans have cook-book recipes for "how to"
and kdramas illustrate the efforts through fun stories. There is more to it that you dont see in a tv series ... !, but a good kdrama certainly sends people in the right direction.
So yeah what we see in kdramas reflects those Universal Laws in a microcosm applied to some human lives but it is essentially what Gurdjieff talks about as C-level influences, indirect contacts with Something Higher, and all humans crave that, so that is why we have fairy tales, etc - so that this Contact can be couched in funny entertaining stories that capture our mind and imagination and focus it on higher-level thinkinig, engaging Higher levels of the brain/mind whatever, I am not going to nitpick here on terminology - something that invokes your Heart Brain and puts you into alpha state and higher - would be my "technical" explanation
and yeah the main reason why kdramas are being targeted for extinction. They are too useful for improving one's life :)
This drama is so refreshing testimony of true unconditional love between "two fools" - there is nothing between them that is not love
If the audience cannot see it, then I will remind the audience of the famous line from a famous story....where it is clearly spelled out what you just witnessed, so that there is no wrong guesses by the audience....
It totally reminds me of the famous Jewish story about two fools in love, usually titled "Shlemiel and Cippa" or sometimes "Schlemiel the First," written by the Nobel Prize-winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer. THE STORY ENDS WITH ESSENTIALLY THIS SENTENCE:
: AND THAT IS HOW THE TWO SUPPOSED FOOLS LOVED EACH OTHER MORE THAN ALL THE SMART/LEARNED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
Ok I am watching Shopaholic Louis 2015 kdrama in 2026 and I now understand how kdramas got to be so awful since 2015.
Shopaholic Louis kdrama shows compassion, the love, the connection, the message of deep belief in goodness, in unconditional love in spite of everything. There are greater stories of great loves, involving spiritual loves, but as far as human love goes, ML and FL here are examples of how deeply humans can love. If you cannot see it - then... ??? I would recommend you read recap of this drama on Dramabeans, the best summary is the Commentary to the 16th episode: https://dramabeans.com/2016/11/shopping-king-louis-episode-16-final/
So after seeing comments of the audience how this drama was boring, SML was too old, etc etc - even ppl who "liked" the drama complaining about silly stuff, clearly not really liking it - I can see the thinking of the Western and other non-korean audience.
THIS DRAMA IS INCREDIBLY CREATIVE AND INCREDIBLY DEEP, and if your heart is closed / jaded / callous, you miss it. And anyone who watches hwood or cdramas is trained to be a callous person.... . Kdramas also train in certain forms of being rotten, such as sexism against women, portraying women as dumb, kind, losers OR villains.
Most ppl on this site are international audience, polluted by junk from Hwood and now cdramas, very bombastic sensationalistic dramatic soapy plots, very shallow, fast whizzing flashy images, etc. Hwood too, with s.x and violence instead of content. Cdramas and hwood are like alcohol, you watch them to stop thinking about the reality. So they do NOT have any transformations and character growth, and are very HEAVY, they lack lightness and humor.
kdramas DO have meanings, teachings, transformations, character growth, heavy topics treated with compassion, lightness, warmth and humor, and hope, always seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. and always moving towards it, putting effort to move towards it.
A true, real, good story has 3 parts: PART 1: FLAWS, PART 2: SUFERING AND OVERCOMING, and PART 3: WIN AND TRANSFORMATION Hwood and cdramas have only part 1, and most kdramas have all 3 parts.
SO MOST INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE WILL FIND KDRAMAS BORING AND WILL MISS THE MEANING, BC THEY JUST CANNOT SEE ANYTHING DEEPER but they have money. So Koreans started dumbing down their dramas, and by year 2026, there are so many new kdramas in Hwood style.
And that is truly sad and Koreans too are losing their "special feel" and becoming numbed and dumbed down.
So that part is a true tragedy - that S Korea does not produce this kind of quality often anymore, and a true tragedy would be that kdramas go extinct.
2015/2016 has great, creative kdramas, and by year 2026, many new kdramas are a total cesspool filmed in Western style ALSO, the actors and actresses are all super skinny now, cannot move, lack energy and liveninss, and new dramas are o sedentary, static, serious, gloomy, with really bad characters who never experience growth and transformation. It is ... sad to see kdramas die.
What is truly Korean is left in dailies and weekenders and VERY RARE "16 episodes" dramas - which usually get lower rating.
PS - If you cannot see the very deep unconditional love and kindness in this drama adn the eforts of ML and FL to maintain it, then something went off with your own inner compass and lack of light in your mind and your heart.... And you need an emergency remedy such as watching or helping with some kittens / puppies / babies , so that you GET TO FEEL THE AWE IN YOUR HEART, THAT AMAZING FEELING OF FEELING THE LIGHT UNDERNEATH ALL DARKNESS. That sense of AWE of God's creation / karma in the life on Earth. THAT Is what kdramas are so good at, to evoke that feeling and to prompt you into your own inner transformation towards the Light. If you are unable and/or unwilling, then ... you already live in Hell on Earth. Human life is meaningful only when we see the Light that is the Foundation for Everything, no matter how dark it looks on the surface, and when we consistently and patiently keep moving through the muck to arrive to the Light at the end of tunnel, oblivious to all discouragements, we just keep putting one foot in front of the other. IF YOU CAN DO THAT, YOU ARE TRULY A HUMAN BEING, that is the purpose and essence of what is called "enlightment" - knowing very deeply that the laws of karma are operating even if you cannot see the results at the moment. The Christians and communists simply have no concept of that, and that is reflected in hwood and cdramas. Most kdramas have it - these days less and less - and most othern-than-kdramas do NOT have it.
It was okay, the beginning was kinda annoying but it gets better overall, the problem is that their relationship…
but one person dumping another at any moment is also true for ANY relationship :) and in this drama, I never had a feeling FL would dump ML any time. It felt like she was fully committed
I've just finished episode 10 and I have to say that I am very disappointed with the way this drama series is…
nc kdramas try to portray unconditional love for the family, and often go overboard with it, esp when parents are in question and children are expected to worship ppl who are truly monsters
I'm echoing many people's opinions on this drama, but what could have been a 9.5 or 10 is brought down by the…
Pfsk - why too old??? they look about the same age, and mentally, emotionally, spiritually, he is YOUNGER than her. They could have been a pair if tha was in the stars. But they dont match as people. He is not kind and loving enough
ep29 -35production assigned you as the new writer.what happens next?
I am watching 2016 kdrama Shopaholic Louis right now - ong so fun!!!! - and I would add more movent into this drama. Dramas have become so stationary, nobody is moving enough. That's boring. More expressiveness, more movement is really fun.
Also, in 2015/2016 the actors looked HEALTHY - they werent the super skinny ones like today. They had full faces and muscles and just GLOWED with good health. Also, plastic surgery didnt ruin anyone's face.
Luckily this drama has relatively normal looking people. But they are so stationary and so SERIOUS and that is boring.
I would definitely improve the music here. It does not fit the scenes and is always quite lame.
The wicked twists in outdoing and backstabbing and cheating and lying each other - the writer is good at thinking of that part :)
Hwa Yeong is pretty convinced that Seo Rin will be on her side when she finds her. She has not even considered…
BH could not tell JH bc he does not trust that JH would not mess up the setup - if JH knows about the other twin - would he tell HY or someone else? or somehow leak the info and mess up. So, fakeSR has to stay a secret to keep JM safe.
On the other hand, JM is lying to BH about JH because she "does not want to shock him", the stupid little goose. She trusts BH 100% and he is her key partner in crime - but she does not share such critical information, and thus WILLINGLY endangers their team. She is a total dumb moron.
Dropped it on Episode 6 the male lead is too annoying for me worst part I never liked him in any of his shows…
wow really? female lead actress cannot act. It drove me bananas that she is doing EXACT SAME facial expressions and voice and pretend fake acting in this drama and 2026 To My Beloved Thief. The FL actress is a total total total fake. The FL character is all right, she is very nice and capable in many ways, but naive and rather dumb - so this is a drama about 2 fools, if you may
I am watching this in april 2026 and HAVING A BLAST, THIS IS SO FUN!!!!! The first 2 episodes that is :) It is less fun / more serious later. But it was more warm and sometimes ... send me off my chair, laughing... Like... ep 5 hairdos LMAO all scenes from the hairdresser and on... LMAO LMAO LMAO the detective meeting them... colleagues commenting... LMAO
ML actor is so good at acting this role!!! so fun! charming, playful, creative, lively, alive, energetic, moving a lot, expressive, goofball, AMAZING comedian. My new fav actor! Scenes with him in glasses giving the hairy bag to FL, or him answering to SML's parents as if a gay lover, and so many other scenes, are total total comedy. Seems like he was one of early idols or fashion models who got a screen role, adn then after that, so many fashion models started acting and most of them are CEMENT cannot act at all. How this ML actor is acting is soooo off the rails, so crazy creative, so rich!!!! I need to watch the drama without subtitles or some super huge subtitles so that I can see all of this goof offs :) He is a super creative goofball, and his main strength is not his face but his lively warm goofy flirty CHARM. He is a true Monkey sign. He is not good at acting fake soapy scenes LOL like whn he gave $2K to scammers and sat in the park... He is not acting well scenes with sad or remorseful feelings.... And he is not good at smiling :) he is good at acting charming with his lips closed or slightly smiling... he is some kind of fashion model, seems like.
The detective who was helping with scamming is GREAT at smiling. Wow that was 2015/2016 when actors with slanted eyes were considered hadsomone. Good old days before stupid plastic surgery and trying to look caucasian. That is really really stupid racism. I wish Asians to look themselves, they are pretty in their own way, WHY imitate someone else. Yeah sure, to sell the dramas more in the West since West has most money - I see why - but is it really needed????
The plot makes Louis autistic and also FL is rather .. dumb too - naive - they dont seem to learn fast to be careful
**** FL actress is terrible, cannot act! ***** I saw her in To My Beloved Thief this year and she acts THE SAME THE EXACT SAME faces, voice, etc THE SAME. omg that chick has zero skills. It is annoying to see her pretending instead of acting.
But bc of ML, I am totally determined to watch older dramas. THis is so fun!!! By chance, I watched Hello Monster before watching this drama and then recognized the ML. Hello Monster also had ML from Idol I, in excellently done support role, it was clear a great actor was being born.
I loved old dramas bc there are sooo many great actors in there, and the plots and the filming is a LOT more creative and dynamic.
FIRST OF ALL, PPL LOOK NORMAL, they are physically fit, they move, they express, it is so dynamic!!! their faces are normal, they got meat on them, their skin glows, their hair glows, ppl are ENERGETIC and look more healthy and happy.
2015/2016 is a LOT sexier than 2026!!!! 2026 is skeleton actors, so super skinny, looking tired, lifeless, serious, just BORIING, no movement, so slooow... Gosh!!! SICKLY, weak, dull.... I am thinking the ML in Practical Guide to Love, he is like a stray cat, and sooo slow in every way. Even the 2ML that the women in the audience liked so much, is pretty much a stationary slow boy too...
WOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 10 YEARS THAT ACTORS GOT REDUCED TO THIS GHOST-LIKE EERIE MALNOURISHED LOOK AND VERY STATIONARY SLOW "SERIOUS BS" ROLES?????
IT IS LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD BECAME SO DULL, WITHOUT CHARM, WITHOUT CREATIVITY, WITHOUT MOVEMENT, WITHOUT EXUBERANCE AND FUN
AFTER SR AND JH MARRY, HY WILL KILL SR - so JH inherits everything and keeps HY cushy as his mother...
and JM is between rock and hard stone - Grandpa cares only for the stock SO IT COULD TURN OUT that Chairman doesnt like the idea that JM exists, and just lets HY kill JM.....
A true, real, good story has 3 parts:
PART 1: FLAWS AND SUFERING FROM IT,
PART 2: EFFORTS AND SUFFERING AND FIGHTS IN OVERCOMING, and
PART 3: WIN AND TRANSFORMATION or to be precise WIN BY TRANSFORAMATION, the transformation itself is a win, but by paradox, there are often tangible wins too in daily life
Hwood and cdramas have only part 1, and all real kdramas have all 3 parts.
Hwood-style is similar to Chistians focusing only on the story of Jesus on the cross, and totall failing to put attention on his RESURRECTION. But the resurrection is the critical part of that one story, and the whole point of the story
I would dare even say: the resurrection is the whole point of the story even existing :) It is the meaning of the Creation :) the story of the prodigal son, of us having a free will and VOLUNTARILY aligning it with the Divine Will.
What is the Divine? for all practical purposes, it is the Law of Karma :)
in practical terms, it is us humans making decisions based on EITHER love OR fear :) there is no middle way :) it is either-or - either you do somethiing based on love or based on fear. "doing something" can be choosing to think certain thoughts and feel certain emotions. Thouths and emotions come and go totally without our control, so it is a lost game to stop them, but we DO have a choince to hang onto them or not. That is the essence of applied meditation and being enlightened, really.
I think Buddhists explain it the best, and esp Tibetans have cook-book recipes for "how to"
and kdramas illustrate the efforts through fun stories. There is more to it that you dont see in a tv series ... !, but a good kdrama certainly sends people in the right direction.
So yeah what we see in kdramas reflects those Universal Laws in a microcosm applied to some human lives
but it is essentially what Gurdjieff talks about as C-level influences, indirect contacts with Something Higher, and all humans crave that, so that is why we have fairy tales, etc - so that this Contact can be couched in funny entertaining stories that capture our mind and imagination and focus it on higher-level thinkinig, engaging Higher levels of the brain/mind whatever, I am not going to nitpick here on terminology - something that invokes your Heart Brain and puts you into alpha state and higher - would be my "technical" explanation
and yeah the main reason why kdramas are being targeted for extinction. They are too useful for improving one's life :)
If the audience cannot see it, then I will remind the audience of the famous line from a famous story....where it is clearly spelled out what you just witnessed, so that there is no wrong guesses by the audience....
It totally reminds me of the famous Jewish story about two fools in love, usually titled "Shlemiel and Cippa" or sometimes "Schlemiel the First," written by the Nobel Prize-winning author Isaac Bashevis Singer. THE STORY ENDS WITH ESSENTIALLY THIS SENTENCE:
: AND THAT IS HOW THE TWO SUPPOSED FOOLS LOVED EACH OTHER MORE THAN ALL THE SMART/LEARNED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
Shopaholic Louis kdrama shows compassion, the love, the connection, the message of deep belief in goodness, in unconditional love in spite of everything.
There are greater stories of great loves, involving spiritual loves, but as far as human love goes, ML and FL here are examples of how deeply humans can love. If you cannot see it - then... ??? I would recommend you read recap of this drama on Dramabeans, the best summary is the Commentary to the 16th episode: https://dramabeans.com/2016/11/shopping-king-louis-episode-16-final/
So after seeing comments of the audience how this drama was boring, SML was too old, etc etc - even ppl who "liked" the drama complaining about silly stuff, clearly not really liking it - I can see the thinking of the Western and other non-korean audience.
THIS DRAMA IS INCREDIBLY CREATIVE AND INCREDIBLY DEEP, and if your heart is closed / jaded / callous, you miss it. And anyone who watches hwood or cdramas is trained to be a callous person.... . Kdramas also train in certain forms of being rotten, such as sexism against women, portraying women as dumb, kind, losers OR villains.
Most ppl on this site are international audience, polluted by junk from Hwood and now cdramas, very bombastic sensationalistic dramatic soapy plots, very shallow, fast whizzing flashy images, etc. Hwood too, with s.x and violence instead of content. Cdramas and hwood are like alcohol, you watch them to stop thinking about the reality. So they do NOT have any transformations and character growth, and are very HEAVY, they lack lightness and humor.
kdramas DO have meanings, teachings, transformations, character growth, heavy topics treated with compassion, lightness, warmth and humor, and hope, always seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. and always moving towards it, putting effort to move towards it.
A true, real, good story has 3 parts: PART 1: FLAWS, PART 2: SUFERING AND OVERCOMING, and PART 3: WIN AND TRANSFORMATION
Hwood and cdramas have only part 1, and most kdramas have all 3 parts.
SO MOST INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE WILL FIND KDRAMAS BORING AND WILL MISS THE MEANING, BC THEY JUST CANNOT SEE ANYTHING DEEPER
but they have money. So Koreans started dumbing down their dramas, and by year 2026, there are so many new kdramas in Hwood style.
And that is truly sad
and Koreans too are losing their "special feel" and becoming numbed and dumbed down.
So that part is a true tragedy - that S Korea does not produce this kind of quality often anymore,
and a true tragedy would be that kdramas go extinct.
2015/2016 has great, creative kdramas,
and by year 2026, many new kdramas are a total cesspool filmed in Western style
ALSO, the actors and actresses are all super skinny now, cannot move, lack energy and liveninss, and new dramas are o sedentary, static, serious, gloomy, with really bad characters who never experience growth and transformation. It is ... sad to see kdramas die.
What is truly Korean is left in dailies and weekenders and VERY RARE "16 episodes" dramas - which usually get lower rating.
PS - If you cannot see the very deep unconditional love and kindness in this drama adn the eforts of ML and FL to maintain it, then something went off with your own inner compass and lack of light in your mind and your heart.... And you need an emergency remedy such as watching or helping with some kittens / puppies / babies , so that you GET TO FEEL THE AWE IN YOUR HEART, THAT AMAZING FEELING OF FEELING THE LIGHT UNDERNEATH ALL DARKNESS. That sense of AWE of God's creation / karma in the life on Earth. THAT Is what kdramas are so good at, to evoke that feeling and to prompt you into your own inner transformation towards the Light.
If you are unable and/or unwilling, then ... you already live in Hell on Earth. Human life is meaningful only when we see the Light that is the Foundation for Everything, no matter how dark it looks on the surface, and when we consistently and patiently keep moving through the muck to arrive to the Light at the end of tunnel, oblivious to all discouragements, we just keep putting one foot in front of the other.
IF YOU CAN DO THAT, YOU ARE TRULY A HUMAN BEING, that is the purpose and essence of what is called "enlightment" - knowing very deeply that the laws of karma are operating even if you cannot see the results at the moment.
The Christians and communists simply have no concept of that, and that is reflected in hwood and cdramas.
Most kdramas have it - these days less and less - and most othern-than-kdramas do NOT have it.
and in this drama, I never had a feeling FL would dump ML any time. It felt like she was fully committed
I said what I said bc hwood and cdramas are diametrical opposite of this drama
Imo Shopaholic Luis is a meaningful great piece of inspirational art
Also, in 2015/2016 the actors looked HEALTHY - they werent the super skinny ones like today. They had full faces and muscles and just GLOWED with good health. Also, plastic surgery didnt ruin anyone's face.
Luckily this drama has relatively normal looking people.
But they are so stationary and so SERIOUS and that is boring.
I would definitely improve the music here. It does not fit the scenes and is always quite lame.
The wicked twists in outdoing and backstabbing and cheating and lying each other - the writer is good at thinking of that part :)
BUT I WOULD MAKE THE DRAMA MORE LIVELY
On the other hand, JM is lying to BH about JH because she "does not want to shock him", the stupid little goose. She trusts BH 100% and he is her key partner in crime - but she does not share such critical information, and thus WILLINGLY endangers their team. She is a total dumb moron.
the first 2 ep in o are AMAZING FUN :)
The FL character is all right, she is very nice and capable in many ways, but naive and rather dumb - so this is a drama about 2 fools, if you may
ML actor is so good at acting this role!!! so fun! charming, playful, creative, lively, alive, energetic, moving a lot, expressive, goofball, AMAZING comedian. My new fav actor! Scenes with him in glasses giving the hairy bag to FL, or him answering to SML's parents as if a gay lover, and so many other scenes, are total total comedy.
Seems like he was one of early idols or fashion models who got a screen role, adn then after that, so many fashion models started acting and most of them are CEMENT cannot act at all.
How this ML actor is acting is soooo off the rails, so crazy creative, so rich!!!! I need to watch the drama without subtitles or some super huge subtitles so that I can see all of this goof offs :) He is a super creative goofball, and his main strength is not his face but his lively warm goofy flirty CHARM. He is a true Monkey sign.
He is not good at acting fake soapy scenes LOL like whn he gave $2K to scammers and sat in the park... He is not acting well scenes with sad or remorseful feelings.... And he is not good at smiling :) he is good at acting charming with his lips closed or slightly smiling... he is some kind of fashion model, seems like.
The detective who was helping with scamming is GREAT at smiling. Wow that was 2015/2016 when actors with slanted eyes were considered hadsomone. Good old days before stupid plastic surgery and trying to look caucasian. That is really really stupid racism. I wish Asians to look themselves, they are pretty in their own way, WHY imitate someone else. Yeah sure, to sell the dramas more in the West since West has most money - I see why - but is it really needed????
The plot makes Louis autistic and also FL is rather .. dumb too - naive - they dont seem to learn fast to be careful
**** FL actress is terrible, cannot act! ***** I saw her in To My Beloved Thief this year and she acts THE SAME THE EXACT SAME faces, voice, etc THE SAME. omg that chick has zero skills. It is annoying to see her pretending instead of acting.
But bc of ML, I am totally determined to watch older dramas. THis is so fun!!! By chance, I watched Hello Monster before watching this drama and then recognized the ML. Hello Monster also had ML from Idol I, in excellently done support role, it was clear a great actor was being born.
I loved old dramas bc there are sooo many great actors in there, and the plots and the filming is a LOT more creative and dynamic.
FIRST OF ALL, PPL LOOK NORMAL, they are physically fit, they move, they express, it is so dynamic!!! their faces are normal, they got meat on them, their skin glows, their hair glows, ppl are ENERGETIC and look more healthy and happy.
2015/2016 is a LOT sexier than 2026!!!! 2026 is skeleton actors, so super skinny, looking tired, lifeless, serious, just BORIING, no movement, so slooow... Gosh!!! SICKLY, weak, dull....
I am thinking the ML in Practical Guide to Love, he is like a stray cat, and sooo slow in every way. Even the 2ML that the women in the audience liked so much, is pretty much a stationary slow boy too...
WOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 10 YEARS THAT ACTORS GOT REDUCED TO THIS GHOST-LIKE EERIE MALNOURISHED LOOK AND VERY STATIONARY SLOW "SERIOUS BS" ROLES?????
IT IS LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD BECAME SO DULL, WITHOUT CHARM, WITHOUT CREATIVITY, WITHOUT MOVEMENT, WITHOUT EXUBERANCE AND FUN