It's there on Kocowa which is where i watched it yesterday morning they are always ahead of viki for release and…
The link I put is the full epilogue but there's no subs available. MBC doesn't upload subtitled versions just extracts from the series though without subs. Anyway the epilogue on Viki is a over 1mn when the full epilogue on Youtube is over 2 minutes so if that's the version you got on Kokowa, that means depending on your region you get different versions of the episode... Which is a bit unfair.
As for Europe, it's very rare that shows available on Kokowa are not available on Viki though I've noticed that Kokowa is trying to carve a niche here with certain shows. Won't bother subscribing though because I think their prices are ridiculous compared to what you can get for cheaper with a Viki subscription in Europe. This being said, I had a discussion with a fellow American viewer once and basically there you pay more to get less with Viki so I can understand the appeal of getting a Kokowa subscription.
It's there on Kocowa which is where i watched it yesterday morning they are always ahead of viki for release and…
Nah you didn't get my post. The version on Viki does contain an epilogue but it's not the FULL epilogue, the FULL epilogue is on Youtube. So I don't know how it is on Kokowa, if the epilogue is a cut/not cut version. I'm living in Europe, Don't see the point on paying an additional subscription just to get the drama one day before. Not rich enough and there's plenty of other things I can watch in the meantime.
I understand people want to watch it the day it's aired... but honestly it's still released during the weekend so I don't really understand the outcry.
Read this comment weeks ago. I wouldn't say it's "below-average" drama...BUT I do agree with the "these squabbles,…
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL I just went here to check if she had debanned me ^^ to ban her instead. She posted an answer I had no intention to read (and was debating whether or not to ban her and saw she actually did it before me - SHAME!) - and haven't since I can't see it and I'm not interested even through a private window - because she seems to be the type that just wants to force people to agree with her (I call this type the "opinion police" ) and saw your post.
I think this person must be a fan of the actor and can't bear to see people making comments that she doesn't like about him when the comment has nothing to do with the actor personally just that dude is not believable as a general. It didn't bother me personally, but I can totally understand it might bother some viewers particularly how unhealthily thin all these actors are but whatev.
Again agree with you. Not mentioning that if you go to war, food is scarce, you spend days travelling, poor sleeping conditions etc so having a proper body mass before going to war is paramount. If he looked that way after a 6 months war campaign maybe... but in that case he probably wouldn't still be able to wield a sword and wear all that armor.
Still very much enjoying the show but WHY are MAME's antagonists always so cartoonishly evil? My God, this woman can't write nuanced character to save her life. I know we need a bit of drama to put some additional obstacle for the main couple, but the mother from hell is just ridiculous. Hope we don't see too much of her for the remaining episodes though.
I don't mind her because it's a MAME story, we're gonna get our happy ending whatever happens but I do am annoyed at how one-note she's been written.
Stayed away from Thai BL since "4 minutes" ( or rather started a couple of them but dropped them due to sheer mediocrity... though I've yet to watch the most popular ones that have aired these past 6 months) and 3 episodes in, and I' m currently enjoying myself.
I don't know if it's because I haven't watched a single Thai BL for more than 5 months ( Well I went as far as episode 6 for a show I won't name which I dropped but it just SUCKED from episode 1 I don't even understand why I stuck that long with it) or due to my love for BossNoeul overall - they have the best chemistry and kisses period - but I find this show pretty nice.
Sure, as usual my standards for ratings BLs, particularly Thai ones, will always be lower than what I'm expecting from straight romance ( at least until the standards set by KinnPorsche, 4 minutes, Not Me or My Stand-In become THE standard) but at least there's some form of plot and the pacing is ok. I was REALLY afraid after I've been burned by the disaster that was "Love Sea" but so far, while "Love Sea" was pretty horrible from the start in my opinion, this one has a good start.
There's some reaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy cringy scenes ( the cloud comparisons for the secondary couple in episode 2 or 3 made me die from embarrassment seriously. WHO SPEAKS LIKE THAT at University?) and pretty cringy lines as well ( including from our main couple) but not enough to ruin my enjoyment of the series ( though WTF with these lines? It's neither funny, nor romantic, it's just CRINGE AS HELL).
MDL rating is pretty low though but I usually don't pay attention to those unless the show has finished airing 6 months prior. I wouldn't call it a "masterpiece" but it terms of enjoyment value, I'm currently at a solid 8.5 though again, I've only seen 3 episodes so that may change in the future.
Also my shallow self who loves well-built bodies does enjoy Boss's muscular built. Yes, sue me.
My only regret is that Noeul doesn't have the same look as his profile picture. He looks gorgeous with these dyed hair it's too bad they didn't go with that look for the drama. Well, the black hair suits him and he looks cute but that look on the profile picture is so much better in my opinion.
I seriously hate VIKI and their delays for hours and sometime days also, they take more time to upload episodes…
I don't think it's Viki's fault. All dramas I've watched recently on Viki were available literally only one hour after it had aired. There must be some legal reasons why they can't make this show available faster because I doubt it's a matter getting translators given the anticipation behind this show.
Read this comment weeks ago. I wouldn't say it's "below-average" drama...BUT I do agree with the "these squabbles,…
Your comparison just doesn't work. Also they have so much makeup and filters, who knows how they actually look. As mentioned by Sukuragir, his point was about being credible as a warrior who wears an armor. But ok. I won't argue with you further, I'm no fan nor anti fan so I don't see the point. You've given your opinion I've given you mine. Cheers to you too.
Read this comment weeks ago. I wouldn't say it's "below-average" drama...BUT I do agree with the "these squabbles,…
Well we'll agree to disagree then. I still maintain he looks underfed.. like most of these actors though and I don't live in a country with an obesity epidemic. Of course he's got some muscles, he still need to be able to function, but the commenter mentioned that the actor didn't look credible as a soldier, and I have to agree. All of these armors were extremely heavy, no idea how much, I suppose it depends on the country, but I read once it could go up to 30kgs. Even if it wasn't that heavy, they still need to run, mount a horse and move a heavy sword on top of all of that. None of it is possible with a such a small built.
Also if you're referring to the usual calculation weight (kg)/ height (cm)²... This actually doesn't really say nothing. Doesn't take individual morphology into account. For instance, black people have on average denser muscles and bone density so for the same height, they naturally weight more. A 5ft 2 Asian woman weighting 50kg would be considered a pretty normal weight when a black person at the same height would look too borderline too thin... even if you still would see a pretty fair amount of muscles on their bodies and that's making a generalisation since there's also individual differences. Bodybuilders according to that scale are considered overweight even when they have literally no fat and so on.
Anyway, that's a subject that would be too long and useless to argue but I very much agree with the original commenter on that particular issue.
Read this comment weeks ago. I wouldn't say it's "below-average" drama...BUT I do agree with the "these squabbles,…
They weren't huge for sure, but they were ripped. Lin Yun Rui looks sick, It's pretty obvious he doesn't like look like this because it's his natural built but rather because he's underfed. There's a difference between being slim and being a pack of bones. I'm not blaming the actors though. I think Chinese have gotten so used to see actors with anormal weight that when they see someone who is already slim that person looks "fat" in comparison. But honestly all these actors albeit for a few exceptions should eat some more. I find it painful to watch at times. This being said, this is a costume drama, they have more layers of clothes so it's not as obvious compared to modern dramas but still.
GAYS FINALLY IT IS COMING ON VIKI: https://www.viki.com/tv/40985c-undercover-high-school
Just saw it on Viki!
SO SO SO SO SO HAPPY I can legally support this series! Gah! They really waited until the last minute to announce this one but I'm just SO HAPPY. That's the only drama I'm currently really looking forward to.
Initially, I wasn't going to watch this series, and I had to listen to my gut. But no, I've heard from every iron…
Read this comment weeks ago. I wouldn't say it's "below-average" drama...BUT I do agree with the "these squabbles, gossip, betrayal, typical soap" part and the "great warrior weighing forty-five kilograms" (this being said Chinese have an obsession with looking slim so not the actors' fault, I'm sure they all want to eat more than three leaves of salad a day, just sayin'. I'm also not a fan of actors and actresses looking like their bodies are about to be blown away by a gust of wind either).
Anyway, not a question of gender. It's just a matter of if you like "soap" or not. I personally HATE THEM, but this drama was recommended to me as a great romance. Well the romance is not romancing, and all the " squabbles, gossip, betrayal" are tiring me out. I've got 4 episodes left to watch at the time I'm typing this... Took more than 2 months to finish. Dragged my feet because I thought it would get better...
It didn't. Not because the show is bad. It's good in what it does... But I just hate the "makjang" genre which is basically "typical soap".
So. I'm thinking of a rating of 6 so far, because I didn't enjoy this show though I think it's unfair to say the show is bad. There were some good moments here and there, but not enough to make me like it.
Your review described very well all the things that annoyed me in this drama. And reading about the ending....yeah...I…
Wise choice, I kept telling myself that but I'm a sadomasochist... I "NEED" to have that additional "complete" line on my MDL list. I know it's stupid. Can't help it though.
oh, you've said first all things that i wanted to sayso guys, read the comments/reviews first, or try to watch…
I guess the novel is probably better and I would guess with a bittersweet ending. They wanted to give a happy ending in this drama to the cost of consistency. I personally really started to feel the drag from episode 7 but I hate to drop shows when I've passed the half-mark >_< But I should have done like you and listen to my instinct.
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As for Europe, it's very rare that shows available on Kokowa are not available on Viki though I've noticed that Kokowa is trying to carve a niche here with certain shows. Won't bother subscribing though because I think their prices are ridiculous compared to what you can get for cheaper with a Viki subscription in Europe. This being said, I had a discussion with a fellow American viewer once and basically there you pay more to get less with Viki so I can understand the appeal of getting a Kokowa subscription.
I understand people want to watch it the day it's aired... but honestly it's still released during the weekend so I don't really understand the outcry.
You can watch the full version of the epilogue on MBCdrama Youtube page here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPqF9ND6q1I
I don't get why they cut it 'cuz it's hilarious but whatever.
Not complaining though 🤣🤣🤣
I think this person must be a fan of the actor and can't bear to see people making comments that she doesn't like about him when the comment has nothing to do with the actor personally just that dude is not believable as a general. It didn't bother me personally, but I can totally understand it might bother some viewers particularly how unhealthily thin all these actors are but whatev.
Again agree with you. Not mentioning that if you go to war, food is scarce, you spend days travelling, poor sleeping conditions etc so having a proper body mass before going to war is paramount. If he looked that way after a 6 months war campaign maybe... but in that case he probably wouldn't still be able to wield a sword and wear all that armor.
Wasn't planning on watching this but since Viki is gonna make it available...
Still very much enjoying the show but WHY are MAME's antagonists always so cartoonishly evil?
My God, this woman can't write nuanced character to save her life. I know we need a bit of drama to put some additional obstacle for the main couple, but the mother from hell is just ridiculous.
Hope we don't see too much of her for the remaining episodes though.
I don't mind her because it's a MAME story, we're gonna get our happy ending whatever happens but I do am annoyed at how one-note she's been written.
I don't know if it's because I haven't watched a single Thai BL for more than 5 months ( Well I went as far as episode 6 for a show I won't name which I dropped but it just SUCKED from episode 1 I don't even understand why I stuck that long with it) or due to my love for BossNoeul overall - they have the best chemistry and kisses period - but I find this show pretty nice.
Sure, as usual my standards for ratings BLs, particularly Thai ones, will always be lower than what I'm expecting from straight romance ( at least until the standards set by KinnPorsche, 4 minutes, Not Me or My Stand-In become THE standard) but at least there's some form of plot and the pacing is ok.
I was REALLY afraid after I've been burned by the disaster that was "Love Sea" but so far, while "Love Sea" was pretty horrible from the start in my opinion, this one has a good start.
There's some reaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy cringy scenes ( the cloud comparisons for the secondary couple in episode 2 or 3 made me die from embarrassment seriously. WHO SPEAKS LIKE THAT at University?) and pretty cringy lines as well ( including from our main couple) but not enough to ruin my enjoyment of the series ( though WTF with these lines? It's neither funny, nor romantic, it's just CRINGE AS HELL).
MDL rating is pretty low though but I usually don't pay attention to those unless the show has finished airing 6 months prior. I wouldn't call it a "masterpiece" but it terms of enjoyment value, I'm currently at a solid 8.5 though again, I've only seen 3 episodes so that may change in the future.
Also my shallow self who loves well-built bodies does enjoy Boss's muscular built. Yes, sue me.
My only regret is that Noeul doesn't have the same look as his profile picture. He looks gorgeous with these dyed hair it's too bad they didn't go with that look for the drama. Well, the black hair suits him and he looks cute but that look on the profile picture is so much better in my opinion.
There must be some legal reasons why they can't make this show available faster because I doubt it's a matter getting translators given the anticipation behind this show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5zlmPDtwbw
Last trailer looks hilarious. CAN'T.WAIT.
Of course he's got some muscles, he still need to be able to function, but the commenter mentioned that the actor didn't look credible as a soldier, and I have to agree. All of these armors were extremely heavy, no idea how much, I suppose it depends on the country, but I read once it could go up to 30kgs. Even if it wasn't that heavy, they still need to run, mount a horse and move a heavy sword on top of all of that. None of it is possible with a such a small built.
Also if you're referring to the usual calculation weight (kg)/ height (cm)²... This actually doesn't really say nothing. Doesn't take individual morphology into account.
For instance, black people have on average denser muscles and bone density so for the same height, they naturally weight more. A 5ft 2 Asian woman weighting 50kg would be considered a pretty normal weight when a black person at the same height would look too borderline too thin... even if you still would see a pretty fair amount of muscles on their bodies and that's making a generalisation since there's also individual differences. Bodybuilders according to that scale are considered overweight even when they have literally no fat and so on.
Anyway, that's a subject that would be too long and useless to argue but I very much agree with the original commenter on that particular issue.
This being said, this is a costume drama, they have more layers of clothes so it's not as obvious compared to modern dramas but still.
SO SO SO SO SO HAPPY I can legally support this series!
Gah! They really waited until the last minute to announce this one but I'm just SO HAPPY. That's the only drama I'm currently really looking forward to.
Anyway, not a question of gender. It's just a matter of if you like "soap" or not. I personally HATE THEM, but this drama was recommended to me as a great romance. Well the romance is not romancing, and all the " squabbles, gossip, betrayal" are tiring me out. I've got 4 episodes left to watch at the time I'm typing this...
Took more than 2 months to finish. Dragged my feet because I thought it would get better...
It didn't. Not because the show is bad. It's good in what it does... But I just hate the "makjang" genre which is basically "typical soap".
So. I'm thinking of a rating of 6 so far, because I didn't enjoy this show though I think it's unfair to say the show is bad. There were some good moments here and there, but not enough to make me like it.