thats what i didnt like in this too! I was plz just do a little. what was that? Even KBLs are getting good kisses…
Thank you. I mean I get it someone mentioned they were rookies... But I've seen younger rookie actors with better kisses, it takes you out of the story. I still gave this is a 10 in the end because everything else was perfect from start to finish in my opinion so I'm just gonna play the amnesia card for the kisses but man....
So I asked for the admin to edit the info... but now that I'm reading (loosely) the summary, the stories seem pretty different... Well I don't know... Bought the novels anyway. I had some money left on my account there so...
Will read this when I have the time... We'll see if it's completely unrelated... It's a BL though so them being unrelated is unlikely but who knows...
I REALLY don't have the time to properly read currently and I also still need a fairly heavy use of my dictionary when reading in Korean so I can't properly compare.
What are the names of the two main characters in the webtoon?
In this one it's 백지한 - Baek Ji Han who is a delinquent. But there's a huge difference in the prologue. They already know each other and Baek Ji Han comes from a very wealthy background. They both go the same high school which is a private institution founded by Baek Ji Han's maternal uncle. The prologue is told from the second character's point of view 윤인서 - Yun In Seo/Yoon In Seo.
Baek Ji Han causes trouble, skips classes and resolves issues with a whole lot of money since he's the only son of a very prestigious family and treats In Seo like sh**. In Seo attends the same school but the two aren't friends there. In Seo is the quiet timid type that wants to just blend in the shadows. Since his parents' death 3 years ago, he's been living at Baek Ji Han's house.
In Seo's parents were average people. His father was your classic employee, his mom was a librarian at the city library. Both were killed by the traditional trunk of doom because the driver was sleepy. He was in middle school back then and acted as chief mourner for his parents' funeral. That's when he met Baek Ji Han's mother who told him she was a long time friend of her mom and would like to take him in. He jumped at the chance since it was clear that all the other attendes were doing their best to avoid his eyes afraid of having to take another responsibility.
Ji Han's mom was clear that she wanted them to be like brothers, however when she first introduced In Seo to Ji Han, the latter said he wouldn't be "brothers" with a poor person. Bae Ji Han was as good looking as he was a jerk with flawless pale skin and light eyes. Mixed. Obviously. They were the same age, but he was way taller than In Seo which hurt In Seo's pride back then. He grew up in the past 3 years, but remained a head smaller than Ji Han.
That's basically the beginning of the prologue... The story starts when they're in High school like in the drama... From the image I've seen of the novel, Baek Ji Han is mixed, handsome and with light eyes...
But the background couldn't be more different...
So what do you think?
EDIT: Also... Got some additional minutes to read a bit more so here goes. Baek Ji Han always has a "forest" smell. He's the type to sleep like the dead. He smokes and drink alcohol... There's this scene in the prologue where he comes back home late and instead of going to his room, he barges into In Seo's, snuggles into his bedsheets and hugs him tightly. Then In Seo can't help but look at his good looks and Ji Han opens his eyes and asks him if he's sleeping. In Seo answers that he just woke up. So Ji han "threatens" him "If you don't sleep, I'm gonna kiss you." This according to In Seo is something that happens from time to time. That type of "joke" happened occasionally when they first met, but the older they get, the more Ji Hwan 'jokes' like that. The following morning, Ji Han will act like nothing happened and he'll be back to his jerk-self and In Seo will be back at beeing the outsider... even though In Seo can't help but wait for the time this is going to happen. But right now, without waiting for an answer Ji Han kisses him touching his lips gently with his tongue asking for permission to enter. Without hesitation, In Seo lets him in. Once they finish kissing, Ji Hwan is back to sleeping like the dead while poor In Seo is left with his heart beating like crazy unable to sleep and telling himself repeatedly that he musn't fall in love with him.
So err... Similar not similar. So many things in common with the drama... The cigarettes, alcohol, delinquent aspects... Ji Hwan basically hiting on In Seo and In Seo trying to resist but who can't help being pulled it... BUT VERY different background.
Note again that this isn't the full prologue. Again, it's a trilogy and this is the beginning of the prologue of the first book... So... I don't know. I'm not familiar with the webtoon... Only the first chapter was available for free in Korean so I really can't compare. The novel looks pretty good though. There's alternate points of view from what I've seen with some parts told with Ji Han's POV.
Ji Han also has a friend called 강은재 - Kang Eun Jae. In Seo hates him. Like Ji Han, Eun Jae is the only son of a very powerful family, the difference is, while Ji Han's family's background is some very powerful legit business, Eun Jae's fortune is rooted in mafia-like stuffs. Also Eun Jae treats In Seo like vermin. Forgot to mention that it doesn't seem like In Seo has any friend in that school. He's the only "poor" student ( I'm putting "" because Ji Han's mum is literally paying for everything), all the others are from wealthy backgrounds.
Ok that's it. I think I've given enough elements so that some of you can tell me if you think the webtoon came from the novel... They haven't changed the info on this page yet so...
EDIT 2: So I skipped Volume 1 and read one sentence towards the end of the novel where Ji Han has been hit severely and is clinging to In Seo saying that 'he doesn't want his mum to notice'... Also the webtoon page isn't clear. It says the author and artist behind the Webtoon is Hi Noon BUT it doesn't say if it's from a novel... Yet... Just same title, same story not the same... Dunno
Good God what happened to this comment section? It was doing just fine last week now it seems it starting to get invaded by people who don't like the show. Sigh... Haven't watched episode 4 yet... Too many shows to finish but I've been enjoying this show so far.
Don't care about people calling the ML a simp. Most romance I grew up in where stories where the ML slept around and the FL was supposed to remain virgin. Dude was ALWAYS a jerk and the virgin girl would "change him"... And I don't mind that dynamic, I enjoy my toxic male leads on occasions ( IN FICTION let's be clear about that and only when RED FLAGs are sold as RED FLAGs, not when RED FLAGs are sold as GREEN FLAGs *cough* Love Next Door *cough*), but find me one woman on this planet who doesn't like a man who loves her unconditionaly. It's escapism. That rarely happens in real life and romance dramas are supposed to sell you escapism.
At least in these "cliché" romance, the ML value their relationship with the FL. It's not even like anybody asked them to remain "pure", THEY made that choice in these stories... Also I don't see what's the problem of not sleeping around when you just don't fall in love with anybody.
Always this idea that it is easy to fall in love with somebody else. It's NOT for everyone and NO not everyone likes to sleep around including males, that's just a stupid clichés that creates complexes for those who can't "perform".
It's mostly male viewers who are making this complain anyway so who cares? Romance are mostly viewed by women. You can complain all you want, at the end of the day, the target audience - WOMEN - are satisfied with the "simp" character, to use the complainers' term.
I don't mind action movies featuring scantily clad women being seduced, charmed and saved by random muscle dude with sunglasses and kissing/making out with said dude after having met him just 10 hours before.
That's escapism for men, I personally find these women in these movies completely ridiculous, but I'm not the target audience, hence since women acting like idiots annoys me I don't watch these shows and I don't complain.
As stupid and unrealistic these women are, it's fiction, if the target audience like them brainless and admiring everything sunglasses muscle dude does especially when he's blowing things up, well so be it. These shows are not for me anyway.
But for MY escapism, I want the pure love story, the kind ML, the perfect secretary, the perfect father, the tough guy on the outside but kind on the inside , Seon Jae, the ML that supports and encourages the FL in what she does and protects her when she needs it without being oppressive, not the classic ML who expects her to be his brainless trophy with one personality trait : looking good, being hot and providing "Monsieur" with sex after his hard day.
Some are venting their frustration on the wrong genre.
Didn't believe this would ever come out... But the drama gives me sad vibes... It smells of tragic ending... We'll see with the full trailer but I might have to skip that one. REALLY not in the mood for tragic stories on my screen... And it's a pity because I love both actors and this one is sure to be only 16 episodes....
i had the same issue of feeling bored midway too. i read episode summaries for a few eps and then it picked back…
Yeah. Stopped the show for a while at episode 17... took it back up today and things are finally speeding up since episode 20. I think most people who gave up on the show struggled with the middle part because the pace is honestly pretty horrendous. I hope they keep the pace of episode 20 to the finish line... Otherwise I'll have to make another stop... which I sincerely hope not because the concepts explained are pretty complicated and I don't think it's a good idea to put this on hold for too long.
At least it's not a sad ending... Never liked his 'friend' with glasses anyway he's a judgemental ass***, the…
It's not that I don't wish Minase admitted it though... But it's a Japanese drama.. They tend to be more realistic so taking that into account, I think this is the best they could do to reach a happy compromise ^^
This is a adaptation of a Korean comic, so it’s likely. I can’t view the page without signing in.
Maybe it's because the novels are 19+ that's why you can't see the page without a proper account? I REALLY don't have the time to properly read currently and I also still need a fairly heavy use of my dictionary when reading in Korean so I can't properly compare.
What are the names of the two main characters in the novel? In this one it's 백지한 - Baek Ji Han who is a delinquent. But there's a huge difference in the prologue. They already know each other and Baek Ji Han comes from a very wealthy background. They both go the same high school which is a private institution founded by Baek Ji Han's maternal uncle. The prologue is told from the second character's point of view 윤인서 - Yun In Seo/Yoon In Seo.
Baek Ji Han causes trouble, skips classes and resolves issues with a whole lot of money since he's the only son of a very prestigious family and treats In Seo like sh**. In Seo attends the same school but the two aren't friends there. In Seo is the quiet timid type that wants to just blend in the shadows. Since his parents' death 3 years ago, he's been living at Baek Ji Han's house.
In Seo's parents were average people. His father was your classic employee, his mom was a librarian at the city library. Both were killed by the traditional trunk of doom because the driver was sleepy. He was in middle school back then and acted as chief mourner for his parents' funeral. That's when he met Baek Ji Han's mother who told him she was a long time friend of her mom and would like to take him in. He jumped at the chance since it was clear that all the other attendes were doing their best to avoid his eyes afraid of having to take another responsibility.
Ji Han's mom was clear that she wanted them to be like brothers, however when she first introduced In Seo to Ji Han, the latter said he wouldn't be "brothers" with a poor person. Bae Ji Han was as good looking as he was a jerk with flawless pale skin and light eyes. Mixed. Obviously. They were the same age, but he was way taller than In Seo which hurt In Seo's pride back then. He grew up in the past 3 years, but remained a head smaller than Ji Han.
That's basically the beginning of the prologue... The story starts when they're in High school like in the drama... From the image I've seen of the novel, Baek Ji Han is mixed, handsome and with light eyes...
But the background couldn't be more different...
So what do you think?
EDIT: Also... Got some additional minutes to read a bit more so here goes. Baek Ji Han always has a "forest" smell. He's the type to sleep like the dead. He smokes and drink alcohol... There's this scene in the prologue where he comes back home late and instead of going to his room, he barges into In Seo's, snuggles into his bedsheets and hugs him tightly. Then In Seo can't help but look at his good looks and Ji Han opens his eyes and asks him if he's sleeping. In Seo answers that he just woke up. So Ji han "threatens" him "If you don't sleep, I'm gonna kiss you." This according to In Seo is something that happens from time to time. That type of "joke" happened occasionally when they first met, but the older they get, the more Ji Hwan 'jokes' like that. The following morning, Ji Han will act like nothing happened and he'll be back to his jerk-self and In Seo will be back at beeing the outsider... even though In Seo can't help but wait for the time this is going to happen. But right now, without waiting for an answer Ji Han kisses him touching his lips gently with his tongue asking for permission to enter. Without hesitation, In Seo lets him in. Once they finish kissing, Ji Hwan is back to sleeping like the dead while poor In Seo is left with his heart beating like crazy unable to sleep and telling himself repeatedly that he musn't fall in love with him.
So err... Similar not similar. So many things in common with the drama... The cigarettes, alcohol, delinquent aspects... Ji Hwan basically hiting on In Seo and In Seo trying to resist but who can't help being pulled it... BUT VERY different background.
Note again that this isn't the full prologue. Again, it's a trilogy and this is the beginning of the prologue of the first book... So... I don't know. I'm not familiar with the webtoon... Only the first chapter was available for free in Korean so I really can't compare. The novel looks pretty good though. There's alternate points of view from what I've seen with some parts told with Ji Han's POV.
Ji Han also has a friend called 강은재 - Kang Eun Jae. In Seo hates him. Like Ji Han, Eun Jae is the only son of a very powerful family, the difference is, while Ji Han's family's background is some very powerful legit business, Eun Jae's fortune is rooted in mafia-like stuffs. Also Eun Jae treats In Seo like vermin. Forgot to mention that it doesn't seem like In Seo has any friend in that school. He's the only "poor" student ( I'm putting "" because Ji Han's mum is literally paying for everything), all the others are from wealthy backgrounds.
Ok that's it. I think I've given enough elements so that some of you can tell me if you think the webtoon came from the novel... They haven't changed the info on this page yet so...
EDIT 2: So I skipped Volume 1 and read one sentence towards the end of the novel where Ji Han has been hit severely and is clinging to In Seo saying that 'he doesn't want his mum to notice'... Also the webtoon page isn't clear. It says the author and artist behind the Webtoon is Hi Noon BUT it doesn't say if it's from a novel... Yet... Just same title, same story not the same... Dunno
So I asked for the admin to edit the info... but now that I'm reading (loosely) the summary, the stories seem pretty different... Well I don't know... Bought the novels anyway. I had some money left on my account there so...
Will read this when I have the time... We'll see if it's completely unrelated... It's a BL though so them being unrelated is unlickely but who knows...
The original was Ok... Not a big fan. Took me 3 tries before I finally managed to finish it... But I really liked Jes in the drama "4 minutes" so I'm curious to see him in this remake.
Still no platform announced? Really annoying... It's so EASY to find Thai BLs subbed in English no matter how terrible they are but you always have to jump through hoops to watch a straight romance. Really annoying.
So they didn't announced their relationship. I think it's kind of unfair because Hirukawa clearly wanted to announce…
At least it's not a sad ending... Never liked his 'friend' with glasses anyway he's a judgemental ass***, the other is less of a jerk but not much better. I think somebody mentioned that it basically covers the whole webtoon so the end is probably faithful to the original material. Can't blame Minase though, he's got a mother that is pressuring him and he works in a traditional company... If his homosexuality gets known, what are going to be repercussions in his life? On the other side, Hirukawa is basically a free spirit, he works with artists who are traditionally pretty open minded especially when you know he's directed movies with gay characters, he's got no father and his mum is literally out of his life. For Hirukawa, having met and be loved by Minase is already a miracle in itself so even if they don't get married, I don't think he's that sad about it, as long as Minase stays with him... And it's also nice to see that Minase seems to be the one who is most scared of Hirukawa leaving him. It gives some balance to that relationship.
You are just in the beginning of the story. There's a story development on all fronts. Let's see if there's any…
SO Just finished it. Currently watching the extra...
Sorry I rest my case. To be fair everything was beautifully filmed, the little touch, e-ve-ry-thing was PER-FECT... EXCEPT for the kisses. They suck. I wasn't even hoping "When the Phone Rings" level but the bare minimum wasn't met. My Beautiful Man had descent kisses. Not the best but descent at least. They're barely touching there and they're always choosing an angle so that we can't see they don't touch but they're so far apart anyway that even that trick doesn't work. Such a pity because the filming, the touches particularly anything involving the hands... Every little moment was packed with intimacy... I was SO immersed... Gah.
Japan has a problem with those. It's a cultural thing. Having sex is considered less intimate than the act of kissing which I think explains why so many kiss scenes suck in their dramas.
But as mentionned. The show would be perfect if it wasn't for that so that a 9.5 from me... and also because I want MORE and it's too short.
EDIT: Btw I'm including the kisses in the extra as well. Still not good. Slightly better to give the illusion of "passionate" but nope.
EDIT 2: Okay. I give up. It's a 10. It's a 10. The kisses suck and it's TOO SHORT but it's a 10 anyway. I love this drama too much to give it less. Fudge it.
After reading this comment section, I think I'm the only one enjoying this drama.
I think this is the worst comment section I've seen in like forever. Haters are having a field day with it. This being said, I'm no longer planning on watching it. Some issues raised by some viewers just don't sit well with me. But I have this morbid curiosity of coming back to this comment section just to see how toxic it can get. I pity those of you who are enjoying this. You better take refuge in the forum section to discuss in peace. Anyway, good watch to you. The show needs support. Got bypassed by Check in Hanyang last Sunday, gotta say, even I was shocked.. Not saying Check in Hanyang is bad, it's a flawed but entertaining show in its own right... it's just that it doesn't have the same star power nor the over-the-top budget of this drama so it stings a bit... Such a huge flop is going to have consequences over which drama to finance in the future... We might not get another big budget one in a while.... That is the real tragedy of this flop. When The Legend aired in 2007, it was also a flop... and it took up to 2019 and Alchemy of Soul for another Korean channel to take the risk of investing big money in a fantasy drama...
Alas, this... This is gonna cost for every scriptwriters and directors in the country... They're gonna play it safe in the future... to the detriment of viewers... Of course Netflix and Disney + pay big bucks for K-dramas with big budgets BUT the caveat is that they're addicted to creating franchise and multi-seasons series which I personally HATE. So well... We'll see how things goes...
Err. Aren't you hating a bit much?He's a decent actor. Does what is asked of him. He just has a tendency to pick…
Dans ce cas, je te suggère t'envoyer ta plainte à Tsukasa Houjou. Il était bien content de recevoir les droits d'auteur pour la diffusion de cette série en Corée du Sud et dans tous les autres pays d'Asie. Il s'en est mis plein les poche, donc le vrai responsable de la fraude , c'est l'auteur à la base qui a accepté de signer et de prêter son nom au drama. Après non ton commentaire, ne suscite pas grand chose en moi, si ce n'est un grand soupir. Je vais pas te forcer à aimer un acteur que t'aime pas , pas que ça à foutre. M'enfin bon, pour cracher sur les gens, faut peut être de bonnes raisons au lieu du "je l'aime pas parce que je l'aime pas et donc tout ce qu'il fait c'est de la merde, j'ai raison et vous avez tord".
Si tu l'aimes pas tu l'aimes pas, mais cherche pas à rationaliser la chose en trouvant des raisons bidons pour enfoncer le bonhomme. Ta détestation est complètement irrationnelle. T'aimes pas son jeu d'acteur ok, mais le reste c'est du grand n'importe quoi de gros rageux. Assume.
Allez bonne journée de où tu te trouves dans le monde francophone. Ce sera mon dernier mot.
Err. Aren't you hating a bit much?He's a decent actor. Does what is asked of him. He just has a tendency to pick…
People easily jump ship for whatever reasons and start to nitpick about anything, they'll just as easily jump again when the tide turns. Number ≠ Truth. When everybody said the earth was flat, doesn' t change the fact it never was...
You're entitled to your opinion, so I won't argue with you about it. On that point we'll agree to disagree.
Regarding City Hunter, I rest my case. You're basically hating for hating sake. Your complaint, which I don't agree with in the first place, should be directed to the writers and directors and not to the actor who is doing his job. You might say you didn't like his acting, but you can't complain about the portrayal given he just did what was asked of him.
I don't like to throw that word lightly because it's overused... But you're basically a hater. Your hate is misguided. You're basically using anything you can find and pin it on Lee Min Ho, no matter how irrational you sound, just because you hate him.
Basically just like the Lee Min Ho fan mob is completely delulu and will always shower him with praise whatever he does no matter how shitty his dramas are, you're always going to try to find any bogus reason to drive this actor's name through the mud.
Now, I'm not a fan of his, so I won't bother arguing further... and even if I was I wouldn't. Your opinion has no value to me, just like my opinion should have no value to you.
I personally will NEVER understand how people can have so much pent-up anger and hate or love and adoration towards people who are basically just doing a very public job. That would be different, if they had some political power and their decisions would impact your life, but NOPE. It's just entertainment, all that useless personal hate is puzzling to me.
The actors don't know you, they don't care about you apart from your appreciation of their work. If you don't like their performance, you don't but making it personal like this is pretty sick in my opinion.
So I’m not going to write a review because I don’t plan on finishing this series. I just finished watching…
Is it for real? Ok. Well then... I was on the fence on whether giving this show a try or not... But I have no tolerance for proselitism so I won't be watching this... Thank you for the comment.
I kept coming back to see some positive comments but Pro-Life agenda is the final nail in the coffin for me. That is a big NOPE.
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So I asked for the admin to edit the info... but now that I'm reading (loosely) the summary, the stories seem pretty different... Well I don't know... Bought the novels anyway. I had some money left on my account there so...
Will read this when I have the time... We'll see if it's completely unrelated... It's a BL though so them being unrelated is unlikely but who knows...
I REALLY don't have the time to properly read currently and I also still need a fairly heavy use of my dictionary when reading in Korean so I can't properly compare.
What are the names of the two main characters in the webtoon?
In this one it's 백지한 - Baek Ji Han who is a delinquent. But there's a huge difference in the prologue. They already know each other and Baek Ji Han comes from a very wealthy background. They both go the same high school which is a private institution founded by Baek Ji Han's maternal uncle. The prologue is told from the second character's point of view 윤인서 - Yun In Seo/Yoon In Seo.
Baek Ji Han causes trouble, skips classes and resolves issues with a whole lot of money since he's the only son of a very prestigious family and treats In Seo like sh**. In Seo attends the same school but the two aren't friends there. In Seo is the quiet timid type that wants to just blend in the shadows. Since his parents' death 3 years ago, he's been living at Baek Ji Han's house.
In Seo's parents were average people. His father was your classic employee, his mom was a librarian at the city library. Both were killed by the traditional trunk of doom because the driver was sleepy. He was in middle school back then and acted as chief mourner for his parents' funeral. That's when he met Baek Ji Han's mother who told him she was a long time friend of her mom and would like to take him in. He jumped at the chance since it was clear that all the other attendes were doing their best to avoid his eyes afraid of having to take another responsibility.
Ji Han's mom was clear that she wanted them to be like brothers, however when she first introduced In Seo to Ji Han, the latter said he wouldn't be "brothers" with a poor person. Bae Ji Han was as good looking as he was a jerk with flawless pale skin and light eyes. Mixed. Obviously. They were the same age, but he was way taller than In Seo which hurt In Seo's pride back then.
He grew up in the past 3 years, but remained a head smaller than Ji Han.
That's basically the beginning of the prologue... The story starts when they're in High school like in the drama... From the image I've seen of the novel, Baek Ji Han is mixed, handsome and with light eyes...
But the background couldn't be more different...
So what do you think?
EDIT: Also... Got some additional minutes to read a bit more so here goes. Baek Ji Han always has a "forest" smell. He's the type to sleep like the dead. He smokes and drink alcohol... There's this scene in the prologue where he comes back home late and instead of going to his room, he barges into In Seo's, snuggles into his bedsheets and hugs him tightly. Then In Seo can't help but look at his good looks and Ji Han opens his eyes and asks him if he's sleeping. In Seo answers that he just woke up.
So Ji han "threatens" him "If you don't sleep, I'm gonna kiss you." This according to In Seo is something that happens from time to time. That type of "joke" happened occasionally when they first met, but the older they get, the more Ji Hwan 'jokes' like that.
The following morning, Ji Han will act like nothing happened and he'll be back to his jerk-self and In Seo will be back at beeing the outsider... even though In Seo can't help but wait for the time this is going to happen. But right now, without waiting for an answer Ji Han kisses him touching his lips gently with his tongue asking for permission to enter. Without hesitation, In Seo lets him in. Once they finish kissing, Ji Hwan is back to sleeping like the dead while poor In Seo is left with his heart beating like crazy unable to sleep and telling himself repeatedly that he musn't fall in love with him.
So err... Similar not similar. So many things in common with the drama... The cigarettes, alcohol, delinquent aspects... Ji Hwan basically hiting on In Seo and In Seo trying to resist but who can't help being pulled it... BUT VERY different background.
Note again that this isn't the full prologue. Again, it's a trilogy and this is the beginning of the prologue of the first book... So... I don't know. I'm not familiar with the webtoon... Only the first chapter was available for free in Korean so I really can't compare.
The novel looks pretty good though. There's alternate points of view from what I've seen with some parts told with Ji Han's POV.
Ji Han also has a friend called 강은재 - Kang Eun Jae. In Seo hates him. Like Ji Han, Eun Jae is the only son of a very powerful family, the difference is, while Ji Han's family's background is some very powerful legit business, Eun Jae's fortune is rooted in mafia-like stuffs. Also Eun Jae treats In Seo like vermin.
Forgot to mention that it doesn't seem like In Seo has any friend in that school. He's the only "poor" student ( I'm putting "" because Ji Han's mum is literally paying for everything), all the others are from wealthy backgrounds.
Ok that's it. I think I've given enough elements so that some of you can tell me if you think the webtoon came from the novel... They haven't changed the info on this page yet so...
EDIT 2: So I skipped Volume 1 and read one sentence towards the end of the novel where Ji Han has been hit severely and is clinging to In Seo saying that 'he doesn't want his mum to notice'...
Also the webtoon page isn't clear. It says the author and artist behind the Webtoon is Hi Noon BUT it doesn't say if it's from a novel... Yet... Just same title, same story not the same... Dunno
It was doing just fine last week now it seems it starting to get invaded by people who don't like the show. Sigh... Haven't watched episode 4 yet... Too many shows to finish but I've been enjoying this show so far.
Don't care about people calling the ML a simp. Most romance I grew up in where stories where the ML slept around and the FL was supposed to remain virgin. Dude was ALWAYS a jerk and the virgin girl would "change him"... And I don't mind that dynamic, I enjoy my toxic male leads on occasions ( IN FICTION let's be clear about that and only when RED FLAGs are sold as RED FLAGs, not when RED FLAGs are sold as GREEN FLAGs *cough* Love Next Door *cough*), but find me one woman on this planet who doesn't like a man who loves her unconditionaly. It's escapism. That rarely happens in real life and romance dramas are supposed to sell you escapism.
At least in these "cliché" romance, the ML value their relationship with the FL. It's not even like anybody asked them to remain "pure", THEY made that choice in these stories... Also I don't see what's the problem of not sleeping around when you just don't fall in love with anybody.
Always this idea that it is easy to fall in love with somebody else. It's NOT for everyone and NO not everyone likes to sleep around including males, that's just a stupid clichés that creates complexes for those who can't "perform".
It's mostly male viewers who are making this complain anyway so who cares? Romance are mostly viewed by women. You can complain all you want, at the end of the day, the target audience - WOMEN - are satisfied with the "simp" character, to use the complainers' term.
I don't mind action movies featuring scantily clad women being seduced, charmed and saved by random muscle dude with sunglasses and kissing/making out with said dude after having met him just 10 hours before.
That's escapism for men, I personally find these women in these movies completely ridiculous, but I'm not the target audience, hence since women acting like idiots annoys me I don't watch these shows and I don't complain.
As stupid and unrealistic these women are, it's fiction, if the target audience like them brainless and admiring everything sunglasses muscle dude does especially when he's blowing things up, well so be it. These shows are not for me anyway.
But for MY escapism, I want the pure love story, the kind ML, the perfect secretary, the perfect father, the tough guy on the outside but kind on the inside , Seon Jae, the ML that supports and encourages the FL in what she does and protects her when she needs it without being oppressive,
not the classic ML who expects her to be his brainless trophy with one personality trait : looking good, being hot and providing "Monsieur" with sex after his hard day.
Some are venting their frustration on the wrong genre.
I think most people who gave up on the show struggled with the middle part because the pace is honestly pretty horrendous.
I hope they keep the pace of episode 20 to the finish line... Otherwise I'll have to make another stop... which I sincerely hope not because the concepts explained are pretty complicated and I don't think it's a good idea to put this on hold for too long.
What are the names of the two main characters in the novel?
In this one it's 백지한 - Baek Ji Han who is a delinquent. But there's a huge difference in the prologue. They already know each other and Baek Ji Han comes from a very wealthy background. They both go the same high school which is a private institution founded by Baek Ji Han's maternal uncle. The prologue is told from the second character's point of view 윤인서 - Yun In Seo/Yoon In Seo.
Baek Ji Han causes trouble, skips classes and resolves issues with a whole lot of money since he's the only son of a very prestigious family and treats In Seo like sh**. In Seo attends the same school but the two aren't friends there. In Seo is the quiet timid type that wants to just blend in the shadows. Since his parents' death 3 years ago, he's been living at Baek Ji Han's house.
In Seo's parents were average people. His father was your classic employee, his mom was a librarian at the city library. Both were killed by the traditional trunk of doom because the driver was sleepy. He was in middle school back then and acted as chief mourner for his parents' funeral. That's when he met Baek Ji Han's mother who told him she was a long time friend of her mom and would like to take him in. He jumped at the chance since it was clear that all the other attendes were doing their best to avoid his eyes afraid of having to take another responsibility.
Ji Han's mom was clear that she wanted them to be like brothers, however when she first introduced In Seo to Ji Han, the latter said he wouldn't be "brothers" with a poor person. Bae Ji Han was as good looking as he was a jerk with flawless pale skin and light eyes. Mixed. Obviously. They were the same age, but he was way taller than In Seo which hurt In Seo's pride back then.
He grew up in the past 3 years, but remained a head smaller than Ji Han.
That's basically the beginning of the prologue... The story starts when they're in High school like in the drama... From the image I've seen of the novel, Baek Ji Han is mixed, handsome and with light eyes...
But the background couldn't be more different...
So what do you think?
EDIT: Also... Got some additional minutes to read a bit more so here goes. Baek Ji Han always has a "forest" smell. He's the type to sleep like the dead. He smokes and drink alcohol... There's this scene in the prologue where he comes back home late and instead of going to his room, he barges into In Seo's, snuggles into his bedsheets and hugs him tightly. Then In Seo can't help but look at his good looks and Ji Han opens his eyes and asks him if he's sleeping. In Seo answers that he just woke up.
So Ji han "threatens" him "If you don't sleep, I'm gonna kiss you." This according to In Seo is something that happens from time to time. That type of "joke" happened occasionally when they first met, but the older they get, the more Ji Hwan 'jokes' like that.
The following morning, Ji Han will act like nothing happened and he'll be back to his jerk-self and In Seo will be back at beeing the outsider... even though In Seo can't help but wait for the time this is going to happen. But right now, without waiting for an answer Ji Han kisses him touching his lips gently with his tongue asking for permission to enter. Without hesitation, In Seo lets him in. Once they finish kissing, Ji Hwan is back to sleeping like the dead while poor In Seo is left with his heart beating like crazy unable to sleep and telling himself repeatedly that he musn't fall in love with him.
So err... Similar not similar. So many things in common with the drama... The cigarettes, alcohol, delinquent aspects... Ji Hwan basically hiting on In Seo and In Seo trying to resist but who can't help being pulled it... BUT VERY different background.
Note again that this isn't the full prologue. Again, it's a trilogy and this is the beginning of the prologue of the first book... So... I don't know. I'm not familiar with the webtoon... Only the first chapter was available for free in Korean so I really can't compare.
The novel looks pretty good though. There's alternate points of view from what I've seen with some parts told with Ji Han's POV.
Ji Han also has a friend called 강은재 - Kang Eun Jae. In Seo hates him. Like Ji Han, Eun Jae is the only son of a very powerful family, the difference is, while Ji Han's family's background is some very powerful legit business, Eun Jae's fortune is rooted in mafia-like stuffs. Also Eun Jae treats In Seo like vermin.
Forgot to mention that it doesn't seem like In Seo has any friend in that school. He's the only "poor" student ( I'm putting "" because Ji Han's mum is literally paying for everything), all the others are from wealthy backgrounds.
Ok that's it. I think I've given enough elements so that some of you can tell me if you think the webtoon came from the novel... They haven't changed the info on this page yet so...
EDIT 2: So I skipped Volume 1 and read one sentence towards the end of the novel where Ji Han has been hit severely and is clinging to In Seo saying that 'he doesn't want his mum to notice'...
Also the webtoon page isn't clear. It says the author and artist behind the Webtoon is Hi Noon BUT it doesn't say if it's from a novel... Yet... Just same title, same story not the same... Dunno
https://www.mrblue.com/novel/E000117312
So I asked for the admin to edit the info... but now that I'm reading (loosely) the summary, the stories seem pretty different... Well I don't know... Bought the novels anyway. I had some money left on my account there so...
Will read this when I have the time... We'll see if it's completely unrelated... It's a BL though so them being unrelated is unlickely but who knows...
Still no platform announced? Really annoying... It's so EASY to find Thai BLs subbed in English no matter how terrible they are but you always have to jump through hoops to watch a straight romance. Really annoying.
I think somebody mentioned that it basically covers the whole webtoon so the end is probably faithful to the original material.
Can't blame Minase though, he's got a mother that is pressuring him and he works in a traditional company... If his homosexuality gets known, what are going to be repercussions in his life? On the other side, Hirukawa is basically a free spirit, he works with artists who are traditionally pretty open minded especially when you know he's directed movies with gay characters, he's got no father and his mum is literally out of his life.
For Hirukawa, having met and be loved by Minase is already a miracle in itself so even if they don't get married, I don't think he's that sad about it, as long as Minase stays with him... And it's also nice to see that Minase seems to be the one who is most scared of Hirukawa leaving him. It gives some balance to that relationship.
Sorry I rest my case. To be fair everything was beautifully filmed, the little touch, e-ve-ry-thing was PER-FECT... EXCEPT for the kisses.
They suck. I wasn't even hoping "When the Phone Rings" level but the bare minimum wasn't met. My Beautiful Man had descent kisses. Not the best but descent at least. They're barely touching there and they're always choosing an angle so that we can't see they don't touch but they're so far apart anyway that even that trick doesn't work.
Such a pity because the filming, the touches particularly anything involving the hands... Every little moment was packed with intimacy... I was SO immersed... Gah.
Japan has a problem with those. It's a cultural thing. Having sex is considered less intimate than the act of kissing which I think explains why so many kiss scenes suck in their dramas.
But as mentionned. The show would be perfect if it wasn't for that so that a 9.5 from me... and also because I want MORE and it's too short.
EDIT: Btw I'm including the kisses in the extra as well. Still not good. Slightly better to give the illusion of "passionate" but nope.
EDIT 2: Okay. I give up. It's a 10. It's a 10. The kisses suck and it's TOO SHORT but it's a 10 anyway. I love this drama too much to give it less. Fudge it.
This being said, I'm no longer planning on watching it. Some issues raised by some viewers just don't sit well with me. But I have this morbid curiosity of coming back to this comment section just to see how toxic it can get.
I pity those of you who are enjoying this. You better take refuge in the forum section to discuss in peace. Anyway, good watch to you. The show needs support. Got bypassed by Check in Hanyang last Sunday, gotta say, even I was shocked.. Not saying Check in Hanyang is bad, it's a flawed but entertaining show in its own right... it's just that it doesn't have the same star power nor the over-the-top budget of this drama so it stings a bit... Such a huge flop is going to have consequences over which drama to finance in the future... We might not get another big budget one in a while.... That is the real tragedy of this flop. When The Legend aired in 2007, it was also a flop... and it took up to 2019 and Alchemy of Soul for another Korean channel to take the risk of investing big money in a fantasy drama...
Alas, this... This is gonna cost for every scriptwriters and directors in the country... They're gonna play it safe in the future... to the detriment of viewers... Of course Netflix and Disney + pay big bucks for K-dramas with big budgets BUT the caveat is that they're addicted to creating franchise and multi-seasons series which I personally HATE. So well... We'll see how things goes...
Après non ton commentaire, ne suscite pas grand chose en moi, si ce n'est un grand soupir. Je vais pas te forcer à aimer un acteur que t'aime pas , pas que ça à foutre. M'enfin bon, pour cracher sur les gens, faut peut être de bonnes raisons au lieu du "je l'aime pas parce que je l'aime pas et donc tout ce qu'il fait c'est de la merde, j'ai raison et vous avez tord".
Si tu l'aimes pas tu l'aimes pas, mais cherche pas à rationaliser la chose en trouvant des raisons bidons pour enfoncer le bonhomme. Ta détestation est complètement irrationnelle. T'aimes pas son jeu d'acteur ok, mais le reste c'est du grand n'importe quoi de gros rageux. Assume.
Allez bonne journée de où tu te trouves dans le monde francophone.
Ce sera mon dernier mot.
Number ≠ Truth. When everybody said the earth was flat, doesn' t change the fact it never was...
You're entitled to your opinion, so I won't argue with you about it. On that point we'll agree to disagree.
Regarding City Hunter, I rest my case. You're basically hating for hating sake. Your complaint, which I don't agree with in the first place, should be directed to the writers and directors and not to the actor who is doing his job. You might say you didn't like his acting, but you can't complain about the portrayal given he just did what was asked of him.
I don't like to throw that word lightly because it's overused... But you're basically a hater. Your hate is misguided. You're basically using anything you can find and pin it on Lee Min Ho, no matter how irrational you sound, just because you hate him.
Basically just like the Lee Min Ho fan mob is completely delulu and will always shower him with praise whatever he does no matter how shitty his dramas are, you're always going to try to find any bogus reason to drive this actor's name through the mud.
Now, I'm not a fan of his, so I won't bother arguing further... and even if I was I wouldn't. Your opinion has no value to me, just like my opinion should have no value to you.
I personally will NEVER understand how people can have so much pent-up anger and hate or love and adoration towards people who are basically just doing a very public job. That would be different, if they had some political power and their decisions would impact your life, but NOPE. It's just entertainment, all that useless personal hate is puzzling to me.
The actors don't know you, they don't care about you apart from your appreciation of their work. If you don't like their performance, you don't but making it personal like this is pretty sick in my opinion.
But whatever. Wish you a good day anyway.
I'll come back to tell you if I've changed my mind regarding the intimacy scenes by then ^^
Ok. Well then... I was on the fence on whether giving this show a try or not... But I have no tolerance for proselitism so I won't be watching this...
Thank you for the comment.
I kept coming back to see some positive comments but Pro-Life agenda is the final nail in the coffin for me. That is a big NOPE.