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Gosh, "no one is forcing me to....' Really? I had no idea. That is such an original observation on your part.

Your response is typical. Did I say "flamboyant" people can't be gay? No I did not. But I have been gay a long time and it's my long experience that men who act like the three queens in this series are VERY MUCH "putting it on." Because I know flamboyant people, and they put on and take off their flamboyance like a sequined jacket. I've had long, interesting, calm talks with several of them when they have chosen to tone it WAY down and are nearly as masculine as anyone else. Then put them in a bar and give them a few drinks: the flamboyance suddenly re-emerges.

There is definitely many levels of feminine-type behaviors that are entirely natural to some gay men, beginning when they are very young. I got called a sissy more than a few times. But no, this screeching and carrying on and you know exactly what I'm talking about, is NOT a natural way that some humans act. It is performance art and the four in this show are mainly performing for each other.

My favorite affectation, and I've already seen it a few times in this show, is when a gay boy with a perfectly, short standard male haircut pushes long hair that isn't there back behind their ear. lol This usually happens when acting coy.

So, yes, all the screaming and carrying on is an ACT. Do they have every right to act that way? Yes they do and no one has a right to tell them otherwise. But I'm not going to pretend that that level of wild performance is a "natural" thing that came for each of them out of nowhere. They learned it.

I don't care if you think it's "dangerous" to say true things. I don't care if you think it's a "homophobic" attitude. It's what I know to be the case.

Second ep: In which the entire plot occurs within the confines of ALTERNATE GAY UNIVERSE.

OK, made it through the first ep. Only started FFing near the end when I couldn't stand the screeching anymore.

Best part of the hour is the cheerleader/tumbler group at the beginning. Those kids kick some serious ass. I was amazed and delighted at how excellent they were. Exciting too, unlike the rest of the hour. If the school colors are powder blue and white, why is the BB team wearing red and gold?

This is not gay representation. These are not gay characters. These are short-cut, unimaginative, stereotypical. nelly, mincing, prancing, shrieking, invisible-high-heel-wearing, gay cardboard cut-out cliche notions of what gay people are like. Toh's entire posse, including the girl, act and sound like a straight bigot's idea of faggot drag queens high on acid and helium. It's really, truly embarrassing. THEN into the canteen marches a whole OTHER set of gay minstrels who are even MORE of a stereotype than Toh's gay pride parade of friends, begging for photos with everyone's favorite human, Nuea. Lazy direction, lazy acting, lazy, lazy, lazy. No thought has been put into how each one of these four is different from the others. They are all the same degrading stereotype with a few nicks and tucks here or there so we can just barely tell them apart. What would be healthy gay representation is if these clowns acted like intelligent college students instead of brain-addled, gay dunces.

Where are the semi-normal gay students who aren't so desperate for attention as Toh's gang? People who are just being themselves without putting on all those "feminine" affectations Toh's group puts on all day, every day? So we have young gay men acting like their very-unoriginal perception of how actual women act, only no sane woman acts like that. Those are all highly stylized, silly cliches of how DRAG QUEENS act, not real human gay folks. And this is progress?

Neua's girlfriend is drop-dead gorgeous, except the director's got HER acting like a drag queen too. OK, on to ep. 2. There is nowhere to go but up.



BTW, this show does not feel at all like college. These are junior-high type characters.

We get it: Nuea is very open-minded, accepting and friendly to all. A perfect angel. Which is why I don't get his dumping the bag of oranges he clearly saw Toh leaving for him.

I'm thinking two or three commenters here are family or friends of the cast/crew.

I'm always suspicious of peopel who say "oh just keep wathing through the 5th episode. It gets so awesome you won't be able to sleep between release dates!" Then when you drop it after the 5gh episode they say "how dare you not watch ALL of the episodes before judging! You have NO right!"

If a full hour isn't enough time to grab my interest, then I'm likely out.

uh-oh...sounds like a nother lame screamer BL out of the Philippines.

If, during an entire hour, a series can't give you good enough reason to come back for more, that is a serious flaw. Lots of shorts don't even get THAT long to tell their entire story. I someone is nauseated with a character after one hour, why one Earth would they return?

Pretty much totally agree again. I had to laugh about "it's not what you think," which has to go in the BL canon right after "just don't think about it," "here, this works well on bruises, " and "my parents are sending me to study abroad."

Regarding Amber though, I can't imagine how you tackle THAT without it being pretty heavy and ground-breaking but I've seen enough BLs make nothing out of something to know what you are suggesting could actually happen. When Ah Le freaks out perhaps Amber will simply say "don't think too much about it" and everything will be fine.

Joo Sang Wook does the BEST crazy/mocking/genuinely amused laugh in the history of cinema. Creepy af. He is brilliant in this flick.

Jed Cheung's dimples.
Max Liu's butt.
That is all.
Oh, and the movie was good too. Glad to see it is going to become a series in 2023. I enjoyed JC's work in the silly little "Jump the Boy" web series. He's a great comedic actor.
Could have done without the first-aid kit trope (twice!) and the fever trope. Luckily, there was no sponge-bath in bed trope, though given that it would have been Jed getting the bath I guess I could put up with it.

Lame.

Can't believe this is just two years old. It feels like something out of the 90s and not in a good way. Amateurish. Another bloody Japanese flick. How original. yawn...

Seemed totally ambiguous to me. Where is the boy? If he is dead in the back of the cave, I assume the evil mining co. owner killed him but why? He wanted the sheep for target practice so he killed the boy too? Why? And what was that whole bit with the boy coming out of the back of the cave to help the girl, lead her to safety and then we find out that never happened? And why did that monolithic rock formation blow up and collapse at the end? What did the lawyer gain by lying to the cops for the mine owner?

And are we really supposed to be able to make out what happened to the boy in the rock drawing the other little kid was making for about three seconds very near the end? I found this out through reviews so went back and paused on the drawing. I can't make out a thing except maybe the entrance to a cave.

Is the boy who knows what happened also mute? Why doesn't he tell someone instead of walking around making odd gestures to adults and drawing pictures of the murder? Again, OK, the boy is dead in the cave so did his spirit lead the girl out then take her back in? Just seems convoluted and stupid.

How does something with a synopsis like this even get funding? Is there a sizeable ten year-old segment among the BL audience?

Sounds juvenile and just plain bad.

I fundamentally disagree with everything you wrote. I didn't say being an adult was always EASY and that you get to have everything you want. Sometimes you lose things because you have integrity inside you and that is good enough. The actor who was "forced" to dance (he wasn't) and was so upset he wet his pants but couldn't bring himself to say "I quit" gets no sympathy from me. He wants to be an actor more than he wants to have personal integrity. There are lots of other jobs besides being an actor, you know. And he could have gone straight to a tabloid or newspaper with his story of "trauma." Why was it traumatizing to dance at a rehearsal? I've done lots of silly things at rehearsals.

Stop with the condescending attempts to "educate" me about your biases. I went to your ridiculous twitter link and it was a lot more of nothing. Accusations and allegations, most from long ago. Yawn. Don't care. Grow up.

And I don't expect you to understand, but you are treating these actors like tiny babies.

Finally, the directors and others you are after have far too many movies already complete. They are all over MDL, the Internet, Netflix, Amazon, etc. and will be making them money for the rest of their lives, even if they never make another film. Which isn't goingn to happen because people who finance films like to make $$$ and lots of these movies have made LOTS of $$$$.

OK, I won't be responding anymore. Best of luck with your crusade. Are you doing workshops for actors on how to stand up to MEAN directors? That would be a good place to start. I had to laugh at the story about the actress who was made to "cry" by a mean director. Whhhaaaaaa...she can get in line with the rest of us. You suck it up, focus on what you are supposed to do and if it gets too bad you quit, like I did, and report whoever the culprit is.

Oh jesus, you again. No one is going to boycott this guys films, certainly not enough to make any difference. Post again with some PROOF other than rumors and accusations posted on Twitter, for god's sake.

I've had "forest of love" on my to-watch list for a while. I'm going to watch it on Netflix just to add to the director's numbers.

Against my better judgement I went to the twitter link you provided and as expected, there is NOTHING THERE except accusations and assertions and bullshit. I'm glad I checked though. Otherwise I would not have been aware that part of what you are whining about is a director being MEAN to someone on set. WHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA...seriously? Get a life. It's hard to believe the rantings of someone like you or the dude posting all this unsubstantiated shit on Twitter are taken seriously by anyone. Again, professional actors who are adults need to behave like adults and stand up for themselves. And I've had a number of mean bosses...it happens. If it's bad enough, report them or stf up.

What you do is known as "infantilizing." You make adult women and men out to be helpless victims with no power to take care of themselves. It's insulting to the people you claim to support.

I do a lot of amateur/semi-pro live theatre. I once had a big supporting role in a musical production in Boston. Two times during the first fucking READ-THRU the director jumped down my throat like a complete psycho when I mistook another character's lines for my own and started to speak. i did it ONCE. He insulted me and yelled "this play is not about YOU, you know?!" I did it a second time. He came unglued. I picked up my coat, told him almost verbatim "I don't work with psycho control-freaks like you who have rage and ego problems. I'm out." Then I left and that was that.

THAT is what grownup professionals AND amateurs do.

Wow, you're nuts. Read my above comment AGAIN.

Nothing you wrote provides proof of anything you are accusing these guys of. It is all hearsay. But of course you continue to repeat yourself as is usually the way with these things. People like you think if you say something enough times it becomes true. The director you referenced as committing these "crimes" was very vague about what he "admitted" to. I understand that your eyes are watered with rage, but blink a few times and ask yourself: where is the PROOF?

Like I said, if an actor or actor is assaulted or raped they should go to the cops or shut up about it. I love these grown-ass adults claiming to ahve been "forced" to do things when the decision to participate or not in anything at all was completely up to them. "Unethical" is not the same as "criminal." And if directors have done all these unethical things, there are all sorts of professional organizations to turn them into. You don't just get to scream things and expect to be believed when you said nothing at the time.

This dude who claims he was "forced" to dance at a rehearsal...what, naked? What are the details? Did the actor go to the police or to an industry governing body and complain? What the hell do you mean he "leaked in his pants for the trauma he was caused...?" So did he leak pre-cum from being turned on or he leaked urine from being afraid? If so, what was it that "FORCED" him to do this? How about him saying "no, I'm not going to do this. I'm leaving and I'm reporting your behavior first thing tomorrow?" Did he do that?

I love that this director is SUCH a bad person that hundreds of people wanted to work on his next film with him, of both sexes. MOST of the things Harvey Weinstein has been accused of have never been proven in court. But enough were proven that he was sent to jail. I have no problem with all that. I DO have a problem with adults pretending to be helpless victims when they had a choice to take part or leave. They stayed but their credibility went.

You should calm down because these guys' movies are here to stay, even if they go to jail later. Civilized, advanced cultures do not ban or censor the work of anyone based on bad acts they committed either before or after the work was made. That is known as thought-policing. You should move to Mainland China. You'd like their censorious, prudish government and president.

"Shakespeare In Love," the movie for which Weinstein won his producing Oscar, remains available online and elsewhere, as it should be

Totally agree. It's such lazy and uncreative writing. How hard could it be to come up with a way to keep things mysterious and maybe even have Li maintain his silence and not let on that he knows something is up just to see where things go? The tension could have built and built right up until the reveal, which is probably a fireworks birthday on the beach. Or even have Li remain silent but make plans to leave the bookworm while starting up another affair with someone else to get revenge? What a juicy plot that would be! Li would then discover he had slept with a dude, no, THREE dudes!!! out of spite when the whole time bookworm was planning a party and had bought tickets for both of them to the U.S. or wherever that school is he had been accepted into! THEN Li could find out he has HIV, contracted during his spite-flings, which of course he always participated in while drunk!

God, I should be a BL writer!

I don't care much about the side couple after this ep either, except that I find Li to be just a facially beautiful example of Asian perfection. Age-wise, he's not my type but man is he a knock out.

Ep 6 was complete waste of time on a side-couple drama that is poorly-written.

Just finished ep. 6. Feels like almost a complete and poorly written-waste of half an hour in a series that only has 12 of those to spend its time on. It will turn out to be something like he was planning something special for Li or whatever and had to keep it a secret so as not to spoil a surprise. Which makes it even dumber, and poorly written, that when directly confronted with his lies, Ah Guan just lamely sputters around making things worse. He could have said "I don't want to tell you right now, but believe me when all is over, you will be glad you waited to find out the truth." Instead he mumbled and looked constipated and said pretty much nothing. I Don't feel sorry for him at all. I admired Li for coming right out with what the problem was when AG came home, instead of pouting and refusing to speak for five episodes which is the BL standard under such circumstances.

Had to laugh at AG running around showing people photos of Li, who now has bright orange and blue hair, from when his hair was black. lol

Seemed a little weird that AG and Amber didn't even exchange glances or look mysterious when AG told Amber and Ah Le that Li was missing, given that Amber knows whatever AG is really up to. Or maybe they ARE fooling around on the side. That would be interesting.

If what I'm thinking about Amber is correct, then he needs to man-up and spill the beans now rather than later. The longer he waits the worse the reaction will be and the sneakier he will seem.