LykeItRuff

I'm talking about what I've seen on screen so far in this series, and nothing else. Not what's in a book I shouldn't have to have read to comprehend the series or in future episodes that haven't aired. To this point, he's a complete stereotype, raging, nelly queen, literally SCREAMING in the show. If you want to pretend that's not lazy acting and directin, knock yourself out. I don't care. I guarantee you the character is gay. If the story portrays him as straight, it has zero credibility. Name one person, real or imagined, who acts like this and is straight.

First of all, live-action adaptations do not necessarily adhere to the source material in the transition. Changes are almost always made.

Someone else here who has read the novel just told me the character IS gay, but that he "realizes" it later in the story. So whether he knows it or not, he IS gay. Exactly what here signals to anyone that this over the top nelly queen is straight? Even if he WERE straight, the ACTOR is stiil acting like a stereotype of a gay queen with her throne and herself on fire. I'm not aware of anyone, real or imagined, who acts anything like this and is straight.

My problem is exactly with the change in tone, which feels complete and abrupt. So will the third episode return to almost completely serious mafia stuff like we saw in ep 1? I'm not getting the "don't take it seriously" thing...so any and all inconsistencies, plot holes, implausibilities are OK because it's not real. NO movies/series are real.

Who's "we?" So he IS gay. I challenge you to name one screaming queen stereotype like this, real or imagined, who is straight. Also, live-action adaptations should not have to rely on their audiences having read the source material to get what's going on. That's just fundamental. Changes of all kinds are frequently, if not always, made in the transition.

What's not what, Simon?

You did not name even ONE fictional character, or even a real one, who is flamingly flamboyant and straight. How do you know "no one in the series perceives his behavior as being the result of his sexuality?" You simply made that up. Almost all screaming queens are gay but not all gay people are screaming queens. See how that works.

I didn't mix up anything. If your reading comprehension is bad, that's your problem.

Multiple gay siblings is rare, that's what I'm saying. Quit ordering people to "be careful of what you're saying." WTF do you think you are? I'll say what I want. Gay people, at about 5% of the population, ARE fairly rare.

Sure, it happens, but it is extremely rare. And in the context of a BL it's silly.

Well, Simon, they are relevant because one of the characters was holding them and screaming about how they were dead, when they were moving and clearly alive. Everything in a show is relevant to the show or why else would it be there?

Clearly, you have family in the production crew or cast of this show.

Hated him. Complete stereotype, and not the least bit original, let alone inspired, my friend. We have to disagree on this one. Hated the entire episode, including Porsche's bizarre physical gyrations and lousy comedic acting.

My problem is that character is not the least bit real, he is a lazy, cardboard stereotype. So it's either masculine or flaming, nothing in-between or with style and individuality?

You're being deliberately obtuse. Pleast name me one straight character from any series or movie who is a flamboyant, screaming queen stereotype. Yes, he is flamboyant because he is gay.

Tankhun is a screaming/flaming gay stereotype because he can do anything he wants and not because of his sexuality? Please name one straight character who acts like this dude, from any show.

Wow. OK. I guess you prefer cardboard steretypes to characters who feel like real, living individuals with specific traits. This stereotype of gay screamers is akin to the old American minstrel shows which stereotyped and degraded Black men. This is actor is doing nothing to make this feel like a real person, especially when compared to the vibe of the first episode.

I have to call B.S. I have NEVER seen a Thai drama/series in which a screaming queen, flamboyant gay stereotype character is straight. Thais also seem compelled to feature trans women who act, not like normal women, but like male drag queens, complete with the sass/sexual aggressiveness. It's obnoxious. I'd like to see a trans woman with some dignity and class for once. And no, none of this is "irrelevant." Anything one sees and/or hears in a show is relevant.

How about "dead" fish that are moving and gasping for air?

I have the impression this one may swing wildly back and forth in tone from episode to episode.

Did anyone else notice that as the screamer was holding and hysterically mourning his two "dead" fish, both were clearly seen to be moving and gulping for oxygen? I hope they put them back in the water before they died for real.

His take on the character is a flaming, unoriginal stereotype. If the actor had taken the time to find a way to make this guy somehow different and unique from your average gay bar drag queen, that would be great but he hasn't.

Well, since you haven't seen the ep yet, I won't spoil it for you, but I think the screamer/stereotype in this ep is a middle brother, I'm not sure yet. So ALL the brothers are gay? How realistic. Is the novel any good?

Then why is he flamboyant?