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Don't get me wrong I love New. And I wouldn't have liked the Pete&Kao couple if not for him. HE made that couple so special for me by playing a "bottom" so differently. He was really something else. In DBK he plays the most boring and unlikable bottom you can imagine. I would have NEVER gotten into that couple if the character would have been like this from the beginning. In Kiss The Series he was also very different. Nerdy and insecure. They know reinvented him three times. The script is horrible, yes, but really .... just show us another look on your face for once ...

"I read a quote somewhere that says the looks of the actors are what gets you to start a drama, but the story is what gets you to continue watching. "

Well, so I'm not alone. People should just be honest and not so defensive about it.

Well, the fact that you even know about a "beautiful collarbone" being shown tells me a lot of what people pay attention in this drama.

Everyone is gushing over those two boys, it's apparently based on a BL novel, people are saying "It's the best chemistry ever witnessed in every couple ever" – but sure, it's not BL.

"... but assuming that people who enjoyed this are only drooling over beautiful actors or BL subtext is ridiculous and could be considered rude..."

It's the truth and people don't like to hear it. That's nothing new. Go to YouTube and see how everyone is gushing over those two guys. I'm no stranger to the BL genre. I'm into it for almost 20 years. I KNOW BL fans very well since a was writing BL stories years ago. And I know how people will defend a series and be very passionate about it, because they love the relationship between two boys, even though they say it's sooo much more when in fact they wouldn't be that interested without the BL subtext. Delusion at it's best.
The acting ... exaggerated facial expressions though I must say I have seen worse. But it doesn't feel very natural. Like in some fantasy historical Korean Dramas everything is rather cheesy, but here they take it to another level with the cinematography. I know Chinese Drama are cheesy in general, apparently there are people out there who like it this way and aren‘t aware of the cheesiness or define it differently. Because if that's NOT cheesy, I don't know what's considered to be.
The production ... those wigs? The hairline is completely messed up. And those wounds? I mean ... really. The make up artist wasn't the most talented that's for sure.
I watched the first episode 3 times with my attention drifting away again and again. I made it until ep 3. People say I have to watch to ep 10. I don't have 10 hours of my life to waste unfortunately. Other series have to show what they got in the FIRST episode.
Really disappointed in this one. I lost some trust in humanity seeing that it's higher rated than "My Mister".

I watched some Chinese movies and I have seen Koran historical fantasy dramas like "Gu Family Book" and some others. I'm not a complete stranger to the genre, but the Chinese take it to another level for sure. This is so exaggerated in every aspect. I must also admit that I don't find the actors appealing at all. But my taste in men may be a bit different. I like very expressive people and a good (deep) script. And I cannot find both in The Untamed. People are saying you have to watch more episode. How many? 10 or 15? Other series are only 15 (or less) episodes long! The two boys seem to falling in the typical BL cliche: the one is serious and stiff, and the other one more playful and outgoing. I have seen that countless times since I watch BL for over 10 years now. This show has a higher rating than "My Mister". If I think about a character/actor that got to me on an emotional level than it's Lee Sun Kyun who played the lead role in said drama. I'm 100% convinced that The Untamed audience is 97% female with most viewers not being over 25 years old and all of them avid BL lovers.

I can clearly see it's low budget. Those wigs? And those fake wounds? I have seen small YouTubers doing better Halloween make up. No hate, just saying.

Everywhere I go I see people gushing over those two boys saying things like "the best chemistry ever", "better than in any BL drama" etc. It also seems it's based on a BL novel. There is really NO DOUBT that this series is popular because of the BL content. I watched some vids on YouTube to get a better understanding what's this all about – it's ONLY about those two guys.

Exactly. I cannot watch him anymore and I loved him in KMA. I just want to punch him in the face when he appears on the screen. That dull expression is terrible.

It's his fault. Look at Tay: he has the same dull script to work with, but is doing a pretty okay job.

Since the beginning I said "It's not entirely New's fault, the script is dull", but even with this kind of script, he could do better. Don't know why he thought playing the character the way he did was a good idea. I blame him for ruining this series.

I'm just not a fan of the "suddenly falling in love with no reason and feeling something I have never never felt before". No idea why it bothers me so much in this series. It's not like it's different in other BLs. But here I thought several times "Why are those guys into each other again?" I'm pretty sure the reason why this pairing doesn't work for me is XHTs character. He is so over the top, behaves like a giggling school girl ... I just couldn't warm up to him until the end.

I'm at the very beginning and I'm pretty new to Chinese drama. I like the imagery/cinematography, because it's somehow captivating and not that common, but at the same time it's extremely cheesy to the point where I don't know if I should be stunned or laughing out loud ...

What kind of logic is that?

Is this a good series with a good story or is this just something people drool over because of the good looking actors and the BL subtext? Because it really feels to me that this is a rather cheesy production, the acting isn't outstanding and the story is not engaging at all. The bad voice acting of Chinese Dramas is also something I have a hard time get used to ...

The guys of Addicted/Heroin became stars over night. That was before the ban though. China has a strong BL fandom.

LOL, funny to see how the exaggerated rating drops. This started out INCREDIBLE strong, but went downhill with lightening speed. I would say the first four/five episodes were pure masterpiece, but well ... talking about missed opportunities.

Regarding Trapped: those livestreams were painful to watch. Like @Sayd said there was so much drama ... I have never seen this before. The director had to apologize for this and that. Every fault they found in the series was somehow the directors fault. I think it was Chris Wu who felt the need to step up for her, which didn't make the situation any better. He talked in an interview about a "hot" scene and this was somehow misleading, so he apologized. (We got a hot scene in the end though). They threatened her so she even deleted her social media accounts. This was insanely stupid. Those fans were extremely demanding. It was horrifying.

The story is all over the place. XHT falling in love so suddenly with YXG is the biggest weakness of the whole series. It just makes no sense. Everything is so exaggerated: the romance, their feelings, the humor. The result is a rather empty idea of love with lots of fan service, but not much depths. They should stuck to less episode. I feel they get lost along the way if the series has to many episodes. Still it was a nice watch, but yeah, it could have been definitely better. Like in Trapped I felt there were many unnecessary scenes while important things were left out.

The people on this site are very critical and like to discuss. This series is overall well received, so people will argue when you don't like it. But it's the same the other way around. Enjoy a show others are hating – good luck with that!