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They did a good job in Our Skyy. It almost feels like someone else wrote DBK. Many people complain about the lack of development in their relationship, I complain about the lack of humor, fun, excitement. Those characters are extremely boring. I don't remember them being boring in Kiss Me Again. They especially changed Kao's character which I don't even recognize. But, to be fair, I get the feeling I was the only one who saw in Kao more than a typical bottom. They had some great and exciting dynamics going on despite their rather cliche plot. This is completely lost now for whatever reason. Still I think you can enjoy the series. It's not bad per se. I mean, it's just different and not what many expected or wished for.

When it comes to humor people have very different preferences, I know. June was hilarious too, when he told his friends how fat he was as a child and his thighs were rubbing to each other. The way he told that story – unbelievable. Or that scene when he had diarrhea. I couldn't believe it either. The actor is great in playing such scenes. Then the scene where Pete and Kao were on the pool and Kao was looking at the "future" LOL. Or when he bluntly said "no" when Pete asked him to drink with him. When Kao helped Pete get in the car after he was in the hospital, how he was looking for the keys in Pete's pants ... their bickering ... The after credit scene in Our Skyy ... I watched it countless times. Still gets me. Hilarious.

My sentiment towards Trapped is hard to explain. It took me 3 full episodes to get into it (or 6) and then I was HOOKED like never before. They show became better and better. I recall one of the most beautiful BL scenes at the end of ep 12. And then, at ep 16 the show was at its peak, when father and son pointed their guns at each other – brilliant. But then suddenly it went downhill for me and now, looking back, I hate it. I think at the end Jake's character who was merely there to support Chris Wu's character wasn't doing it for me. Also his acting was rather inconsistent. The whole plot didn't "flow" well. It's honestly strange how much I dislike it now when I was so emotional and excited about it back then. I even wanted to skip MODC, because I was so disappointed in the last HIStory. I‘m not proud of myself, believe me. I also criticized the reactions of the local fans back then a lot. It's really strange how my feelings changed, but I'm glad I gave MODC a chance. It's really worth it. Hopefully we will not get disappointed.

It's true that despite the High School setting MODC feels more mature than Trapped. The police officers looked like a bunch of kids playing cops. I wasn't a fan of that either. Still I'm confused.

I'm very surprised that local fans enjoy this. It's the kind of story I would think they would hate. I mean this is not your fluffy BL romance with a rather easy to process plot and lots of eye candy. The whole production screams low budget, HJZ looks like a cancer patient. There is violence, bullying, forced kisses. I love it, but well, I don't have mainstream taste.

I always liked the couple because they don't embody the bottom/top cliche. I'm sure in the novel they were exactly written like typical bottom/top, but in the series it didn't look like that at all. Pete wasn't that bad and his cockiness and jealousy was kinda funny. He was more the tsundere type you cannot take serious (at least I couldn't). Kao was always the one in control. He decided about the progress of the relationship. Not to mention that Kao is physical stronger and bigger than Pete. He could eat him alive, really. What I liked most about those two was the humor. I sometimes wonder if I was the only one who thought they were so funny. Their bickering and some of the dialogues were pretty cool and smart. In Our Skyy too. Don't know what happened in DBK, it feels like a boring soap opera in comparison.

They are friends for more than 6 years as far as I know. So they were the first "couple" to be friends before becoming a couple. It's just very different with them. They never liked doing fan service either (not that I know much about it, I don't watch those shows where they have to eat a noodle or something until their lips touch). They are like brothers, twin brothers. I really enjoy their natural acting. It was obvious in KMA that they feel very at ease with each other (well, later on, when they were on better terms and weren't fighting anymore). But in DBK I don't sense any "chemistry". It's really sad.

Well, what should I say: I liked it. It really pulled on my heart strings. I don't watch western shows, so I don't know if the cheating plot is common or not. Still something being common is no reason for not liking it. There are hundred million cliche plots that people get crazy about. But cheating seems to be some kind of red flag. Considering the material they had to work with (Bad Romance/Together With Me) they did a rather good job developing those characters without changing them too much. After seeing Korn's behavior in Bad Romance and Together With Me (jealous, possessive, demanding, needy) this plot made perfectly sense and they had some balls to go there.

It's hilarious that you put that into a spoiler tag

Together With Me Next Chapter did a pretty good job, even though people hated it for obvious reasons. A cheating plot is never liked. There were not much kisses either and Korn&Knock were not on good terms for most parts of the series. But the story was captivating and heart-wrenching. I'm pretty sure even the people who didn't like it watched it to the end. Dark Blue Kiss feels just shallow in comparison. I don't want to spread a bad mood, but I see no reason to keep watching this. It's one of the most boring BLs I ever came across.

LOL ... took me awhile to get that "Dark Blue Balls" joke ...

The chemistry is really gone. It's so disappointing.

"We, BL fans, should focus more on stories and couples we believe to have substance"
What do you mean? You don't have to be gay to pull it off. Like Matthew Daddario and Harry Shum Jr. in Shadowhunters. Great chemistry, great friendship. They just went for it. Harry is married with a child, Matthew had a girlfriend. It honestly annoys me how this is supposed to be such a big deal (only between men though!!!). I lately heard a lesbian complain about that guys are constantly hitting on her girlfriend even though they are together and kissing, holding hands in public, so the guys should be aware of their relationship status. So again we see that if two girls are kissing and hugging it's just "cute" and normal and no big deal, while if two men are doing it, then it's the end of the world and regarding acting it needs some special skill and will power and committment and I don't know what to pull it off even though you're a DAMN actor and that's your job.
But then again the whole genre is about girls drooling over good looking heterosexual boys and fantasizing about them being in a cute relationship in real life. I never understood what that shipping thing is good for. What does it have to do with your life if two people you will never meet are together or not? Like I always say this isn't about realtstic gay relationships.

You should watch some videos about their friendship, then you will understand why so many people like them. I don't ship people in real life and I don't want them to be a couple, but a friendship like this is prove that there are beautiful things in this world. Because of them I got some trust in humanity back.

I meant if they don't want to do it, then don't do it. Don't make a sequel. But if you make one, be committed. It seems the director wanted it like that? Jesus ...

I didn't mean that they are not on good terms. They have a beautiful friendship as far as I know, but they always seemed to be a bit uncomfortable playing a couple. So the director wanted to focus on story and their acting? The acting doesn't impress me at all. Tay was doing such a great job in "3 will be free". Seeing him now act as Pete seems like a step back. That role/character combined with this childish plot isn't really a challenge.

There will be a season 3 with the same cast. Hopefully they will not mess it up *fingers crossed*

It seems they made some changes from the novel. So I wonder where this is going. It's more on the lighter side that's for sure. But considering the rather heavy topics it's an odd choice to not going more into depths. Even without inner monologue you can manage to tell a heart-wrenching story.

There are a lot of scenes which show a rather slow pace. I also feel like some dialogues and scenes were repetitive, especially in the beginning. The whole "I hate gays" scenes for example. Yeah, we got it. Some talks with side characters are also unnecessary long. They could use their time better, that's for sure. Often they are just standing and breathing like what to think to say now. Especially Mew seems to take some seconds before he delivers his dialogue.

I know those things you listed above. But it doesn't explain much, for example why Type is even attracted to Tharn in the first place. Imagine what kind of conflict this could be: he hates gay people but thinks about being gay himself. Is it a result of the assault (it does happen that assaulted children are attracted to men later, in those cases they often show over sexualized behavior) or was he gay to begin with? How is he dealing with this? What are his thoughts? Like someone else said, the inner monologues of the novel are missing. I also read after they were having sex in the novel he becomes very homophobic (even more than before), which I think would make much more sense and would show us that inner conflict. They could have done a better job, really. Also Gulf's acting is a bit over the top, considering the complexity of this character.