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Didn't catch many things either, because it was freezing. I thought my internet connection was bad, lol.

I'm used to his voice, since I know him for a while. But when you mentioned it, I remembered that I felt the same. I was very irritated by his unusual voice.

Honestly, I think you just overlooked the issues regarding the writing in the first two episodes, because everything else was new and exciting. I did that with ep1. I thought it was flawless, when it wasn't. The writing is silly, the token faggot characters (sorry, flamboyant) didn't surprise me much. Reminds me a bit of KinnPorsche, where they gave the Tankhun character so much screen time. It made a supposedly serious mafia action series look silly. No idea why they always do that. I mean, I enjoy Jack&Joker a lot, and I don't care about the silliness, I'm digging the humor. Many said, that this series doesn't take itself too serious, and I agree with that, but yeah, it's in many aspects a typical Thai series with many typical stereotypes. And the rather nonsensical, weak writing and the overdramatic side characters are part of it.

We should really talk about War's ass ...
First time in my life that I even notice the buttocks of an actor and staring at it longer than necessary.

I liked what War did with his voice in this episode. Someone complained about his real voice being too high, he made it even higher, when he dressed as a girl, but then he made it deeper when talking to Jack. I loved that. Especially his deep voice surprised me. He is really having the time of his life: playing the gangster, dressing as a woman, being the flirtatious gay guy ... What's next?

I don't know if this scene was intentional, but when Jack cleaned the joker face from the wall, I laughed so hard. Dude was making it worse. Just spray over it with some white paint. That was hilarious.

This is like a dream coming true. I swear I wished my whole life for such a series. An action couple with good fights, where both don't hold back. Interesting characters, slow development of their feelings, intimate and emotional moments. I hope this doesn't get cheesy, but I trust in War, who is such a natural actor. Not that Yin isn't doing a good job, but War is the champion, let's be honest. He breathes his soul into every series. I love how alluring he is. I'm here for the sexual energy.

Auf alle Fälle :) Nach elf wäre mir auch zu spät, dauert bei mir ohnehin meist zwei Stunden, bis ich mit einer Folge fertig bin ;P

Hallo aus Italien oder eher dem schönen Südtirol :P

It's 5pm in my country ;P

Watch this. Made me rolling on the floor several times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eLEMaS5AFw&ab_channel=%E1%B4%A1%E1%B4%80%CA%80xs%C9%AA%E1%B4%8D%E1%B4%98

"You guys must be around 30s or 40s to get bored by this."
Yeah, I'm at that age. No interest in living through my school years again :)

We are not living in Utopia. I have yet to see a comment section on MDL where there is no fighting going on. Every comment section of every series has certain stages.
First, when it airs, some people hate it, criticize it, drop it. Some of them hate on it for a few more episodes.
Second, more episodes are out, in the best case the series improves and gets more interesting, the people who already loved it, love it even more, the comment section becomes sunshine and rainbows.
Third, the end is near. The writers mess it up (or not), some people who originally loved it or at least liked it, are disappointed, criticism gets stronger, people complain, some hate on it, other love it even more and fight for it with a passion. That's the fighting stage.
Fourth, the series ends. Nobody cares anymore.

Go Hotae wasn't sincere and straight forward about his feeling. Having constantly a different girlfriend wasn't helping either. He was confused, unsure, hormone-driven, and he showed that to Kim Donghee.
Honestly, if I put myself in Kim Donghee shoes, I wouldn't have accepted this either. There is also the relationship with his "auntie" he cherishes. Too much was at stake. His decisions were smart. They both needed time to cool their heads.
It didn't go well with Go Hotae's having that accident, but that was just unfortunate.

It's rated high, because it was beautifully filmed, the characters are deep and complex, the emotions were portrayed in a very captivating way, that make you feel lots of things.

Kim Donghee is very sensitive and smart. He is not an asshole. If someone is an asshole, then it's Go Hotae, though he has no ill intent. He is confused. He was never clear about his feelings. He broke up with the girl, because he "bought eggs", which meant, because of Kim Donghee. You could see how happy that made Kim Donghee, and how excited and happy he was the next time he approached Go Hotae, only to discover he had a new girlfriend.

What was Kim Donghee supposed to think and feel? Go Hotae was obviously confused. He wasn't sincere, neither to himself nor to Kim Donghee. He never said: "I want to kiss you, because I like you". He said "Teach me kissing, so I do well, when I kiss my new lover." He apologized for kissing Kim Donghee later, he never confessed his feelings. Never.

Then there is the problem with being gay, which is apparently such a terrible thing, that his father beat Kim Donghee because of it. So now he is supposed to go out and live his best and sexiest gay life with his best friend, whose mother seems to be the only adult who cares for him sincerely? Why not? Who cares if it doesn't work out? Nothing to lose! Let's have our great gay romance with a guy whose hormones seem a bit out of control.

In ULS the saga continues. Go Hotae has different girlfriends, and then he asks Kim Donghee to be his boyfriend FOR A MONTH. To kiss him. To sleep with him. He basically said "I want to try you out", just for a month. Strange, that Kim Donghee didn't like that. The moment Go Hotae was honest with his feelings, the moment he told him he loved him and how devastated he was after he went to Seoul, Kim Donghee opened up to him.

I feel sorry for the actors, because you see the true face of their "fans" here on this site. First, toxic OhmNanon fans were spreading irrational hate to the point where I questioned their sanity. Now toxic OhmLovers are creeping around, who call everyone a hater who dares to criticize this series, when this series is mediocre at best. Imagine, you work and entertain such people, who are just hateful and obsessed, while at the same time thinking they are fighting for their idols and are so brave and "good". No wonder those actors do this job mostly for the money, not for the art. Why should they enjoy entertaining this obsessed, crazy crowd?
Go watch "Why You ... Y me?", where we have a crazy fangirl (she is cute, though, and she means well). The couple she ships hard is MeanPlan (of course they have other names in the series). And Plan talks with his friend about how he doesn't even know if he is talented, since people are only interested in him because of the "couple". Hit me pretty hard. Imagine being those actors ... And then you have the company GMMTV who doesn't even try to create good series with a good plot anymore, because they know the fans only want a hot couple to ship. That's why couples like PondPhuwin or JoongDunk are so hyped and people are gushing over their good looks and the "fanservice". Never seen anyone gushing over their good acting!
Everything goes to sh*t sooner or later. It's honestly sad.

I don't know if I misunderstand, but I want to say that the problem is NOT homophobia, misogyny, racism or whatever.

You can't force people to like a certain content. You can't force a heterosexual guy to watch gay content regularly. I'm pretty sure many hetero guys watched Brokeback Mountain, because it was a big hit back then and advertised heavily. But there are certain genres that aren't speaking to everyone.

Fast and the Furious is watched by so many, because it's liked by many: men watch it, because they like fast cars, women watch it, because they like hot men. Big audience. It's not only for men. This is not about gender, sexuality, skin color, it's about NUMBERS!

BL will never have the same audience. Mostly some heterosexual women and gay men like this genre. Asian BL series got big because of the international audience, but there are only so many viewers you can entertain. You can't force the world to be gay or to like gay content.

I'm pretty sure at least 30 people are working on this series. Sometimes at the end of a series they show a picture of the stuff, or otherwise they show it in the BTS. There are always at least 20 people. Imagine everyone gets 10k for their hard work which takes weeks and months - well, then nothing is left from the 300k.

It looks high budget for a Thai BL production, that was my first impression too.

But people tend to compare those series to the big ones like those from Korea or even Hollywood was mentioned, which spends millions for their series and movies.

I don't think this is about homophobia. The money goes where there is money to earn. The market is just smaller. There aren't that many people who want to watch gay content, and that's okay too.