With all due respect, and you weren't rude, so I do have respect, I'm not, nor have I ever been an American. Nor…
You said it's all perspective, then said that the Chinese Gods are not a reflection of Ancient China??! It's a direct correlation!
I know Chinese opera well, and the young men and women both "sing" and recite in the falsetto/ nasal intonation soprano range, it's true, and that has to do with both tradition (the more sexually modest a society, the higher the singing pitch, in ethnomusicology), and portraying the age of the character. But this isn't Chinese Opera, and men and women both recite in high voice equally, not just one gender!
Again, why is it acceptable for a young woman to act like a toddler, but men play toddlers for laughs only.
A young, immature person doesn't act like a toddler. I mean, really, think about how she is acting. No 14-15 year old would/ could act like that. It's all done out of marketing, and if people keep making excuses for it, then things will never change.
I don't remember women acting like toddlers in Chinese Opera. Innocent, young, naive? Yes, but not bubbly, cutesy toddlers, and in Chinese Opera, characters are exaggerated!
It's great that there is some improvement in her behaviour, but I can't condone her marketing gimmick, which is exactly what it is. I don't care how bubbly she is in real life, she is either milking it, or, she has a mental handicap, which is unfortunate, and shouldn't be exploited.
And she "played" the exact same character in, "I've Fallen For You", in the same voice. Was that reflective of the forensic pathologists coroner she was supposed to be playing as well? Why does she have to act like a toddler? Maybe you haven't spent enough time with toddlers to realize the difference.
I think your review is from a very American standpoint. Yes, she has a higher pitched voice, but, that’s her…
With all due respect, and you weren't rude, so I do have respect, I'm not, nor have I ever been an American. Nor do I prescribe to the American emasculation of women that is currently in style and has been for the last two decades.
No, I am simply someone who is apposed to infantilization, particularly when it pertains to women.
As you are an American, I understand your reluctance to call out unhealthy social norms as "cultural", but I rejected that a long time ago. Culture is not something sacred to be banned from critiquing. I repeat a statement I believe I stated earlier, which is that no 14-15 year old acts like a toddler. None. I don't care how "isolated" you supposedly are, no teenager acts like a toddler.
Even this actress doesn't have to act like a toddler in real life. Nobody is forcing her to compose herself as if she is mentally delayed. That is entirely her own choice.
Think about how and why she chose to act like a toddler insteas of a teenager then, if it makes more sense to you.
As for her voice, she has chosen to market herself as a human toddler. It's entirely her choice to talk and act like a toddler. If you think that Chinese teenagers in ancient China (females always had an isolated life, by the way, even more so than this character) behaved like toddlers for real, and there's no problem with perpetuating this myth, then what are you saying about the MLs that are attracted by that? Are they all pedophiles? Is it Chinese culture for men to be pedophiles then, by your assessment?
Think about it. The average teenager married by age 14-15, but only the females act like toddlers, and the men have a mental age that fits?? What excuse of culture do you have for excusing the way the male characters are usually 2-5 years older, but they aren't mentally immature to the point of infantile behaviour? It's pure conjecture on your part.
And, finally, here is a link to show how Esther Yu changes her voice to act more like a toddler:
And one more thing, no, she can't act. She needs training and perhaps a touch more maturity, but as long as people keep defending her actions, she will profit off of the marketability of infantilization, as there clearly, clearly is a market for it, and there will keep being one, unless people start stepping up, stop pretending it's "cultural", and demanding more.
So in your dictionary, "hating" equals Not liking her voice, or wanting a female lead to act her age and not like…
I made the mistake of saying that I wished the FL wasn't Esther Yu. Then I was bullied into giving my opinion on her, even though I just wanted to express my disappointment that she was cast. Then I got the "Yu Lackeys" coming for me about not giving her a chance in this particular drama, so I decided to give her a chance.
I also equally dislike Zhao Lu Si, but, "Love of Thousand Years" was a great story (not well done for a few reasons, but still watchable).
I totally get your point. I'm not out to comment random negativity, I'm just saying why people who watched the trailer still gave it and Ms. Yu a chance, and Xanxia in general. Also how I got roped into saying things about Ms. Yu by her stans on here.
I'm allowed to write a review without being attacked by ad hominems. You can also write your own review, it's…
On no planet is it bearable to watch a grown woman act like a toddler. If it's supposed to be a serious drama, all the more reason for the actress not to act like a toddler. There is no way that a proper novel character is written as behaving like a toddler, or if she is in fact written to behave like a toddler, then there is something desperately wrong with the ML and SML falling in love with her, because that is on the verge of pedophilia.
You can insult me all you want just because I have a different opinion than you, but facts are that no grown woman or 14-15 year old acts like a baby.
Who made you incharge and gave you the right to boss everyone around? So only Your feelings, likes and opinions…
It does kind of remind me of how modern society has replaced religion with celebrity. The fanaticism of idol worshipping. Unfortunately, continuing to suppress free speech because of celebrity allegiance is severely damaging in the long run. For a society to function properly, there can't be such subject taboos, or there is ultimately a dictatorship of thought policing (which is already in place and functional in Communist China).
So in your dictionary, "hating" equals Not liking her voice, or wanting a female lead to act her age and not like…
I think it's probably because some of us love C costume dramas, and love historical dramas and Wuxia, but if we didn't give any Xanxia a try, then we'd miss out on the good ones like, "The Legends".
Personally, I want to watch the story, without the FL that was cast. The actual story can be great, like in, "Love of Thousand Years".
It's really not the viewer's fault that annoying actresses are cast because of their cuteness factor. I like to think I have an open mind, so I give Xanxia a chance, in case the story is really good, but in this case, the FL is well.... annoying, yes, like most FLs in Xanxia. I don't think it's my fault for giving it a chance though. I also don't think I should have to censor my opinion just because I gave the genre another chance.
If you don't like the reviews, isn't it easy enough not to read them? I will still give Xanxia a go, because of my love of costume dramas and the chance of an amazing story.
I'm allowed to write a review without being attacked by ad hominems. You can also write your own review, it's…
If I was a real actress, I would go get the best training possible for my chosen field of work, and then I would make sure not to perpetuate the Mary Sue trope within my acting choices, and most of all, I wouldn't act like a toddler as a grown woman. Facts don't care about your feelings.
As you like, nothing will happen to CLJ if you only one won't watch.They already got 4M reservation and the first…
I think you can state your opinion without resorting to ad hominems. I repeat, I am allowed to state my opinion. I don't know her as a human being, I just know her acting, and I am allowed to dislike it.
"[insert male actor's name] is so annoying cause he's always playing a rich ahole man over and over again" said…
The stoic icicle male trope would be just as annoying as the naive, cutesy FL trope, except the FL is usually the character leading the story. I'm just saying why the female role gets criticized more often.
OK. I don't know why you're so defensive. Personally, I can't stand her as a FL, or even a SFL. There are lots of Chinese and Korean FL actresses that play the same annoying characters over and over again. She's not alone in that. Just let us agree to disagree.
Either there is an epidemic of directors asking for cutesy, or she purposely chooses the cutesiest roles through her agent, because that's here "thing". As it is, that's her thing now regardless, as that's where her career has gone so far.
I'm pretty sure she doesn't have to be all cutesy like a ton of other C drama actresses. It's a choice she makes, and many people besides me find it annoying. She wants to be that way for every drama she is in? Fine, but then I am allowed to comment on that fact.
She is an actress, I don't know or care what her personality is like. I just expect her to be able to act, and I don't think that's asking too much. I'm allowed my opinion.
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I know Chinese opera well, and the young men and women both "sing" and recite in the falsetto/ nasal intonation soprano range, it's true, and that has to do with both tradition (the more sexually modest a society, the higher the singing pitch, in ethnomusicology), and portraying the age of the character. But this isn't Chinese Opera, and men and women both recite in high voice equally, not just one gender!
Again, why is it acceptable for a young woman to act like a toddler, but men play toddlers for laughs only.
A young, immature person doesn't act like a toddler. I mean, really, think about how she is acting. No 14-15 year old would/ could act like that. It's all done out of marketing, and if people keep making excuses for it, then things will never change.
I don't remember women acting like toddlers in Chinese Opera. Innocent, young, naive? Yes, but not bubbly, cutesy toddlers, and in Chinese Opera, characters are exaggerated!
It's great that there is some improvement in her behaviour, but I can't condone her marketing gimmick, which is exactly what it is. I don't care how bubbly she is in real life, she is either milking it, or, she has a mental handicap, which is unfortunate, and shouldn't be exploited.
And she "played" the exact same character in, "I've Fallen For You", in the same voice. Was that reflective of the forensic pathologists coroner she was supposed to be playing as well? Why does she have to act like a toddler? Maybe you haven't spent enough time with toddlers to realize the difference.
No, I am simply someone who is apposed to infantilization, particularly when it pertains to women.
As you are an American, I understand your reluctance to call out unhealthy social norms as "cultural", but I rejected that a long time ago. Culture is not something sacred to be banned from critiquing. I repeat a statement I believe I stated earlier, which is that no 14-15 year old acts like a toddler. None. I don't care how "isolated" you supposedly are, no teenager acts like a toddler.
Even this actress doesn't have to act like a toddler in real life. Nobody is forcing her to compose herself as if she is mentally delayed. That is entirely her own choice.
Think about how and why she chose to act like a toddler insteas of a teenager then, if it makes more sense to you.
As for her voice, she has chosen to market herself as a human toddler. It's entirely her choice to talk and act like a toddler. If you think that Chinese teenagers in ancient China (females always had an isolated life, by the way, even more so than this character) behaved like toddlers for real, and there's no problem with perpetuating this myth, then what are you saying about the MLs that are attracted by that? Are they all pedophiles? Is it Chinese culture for men to be pedophiles then, by your assessment?
Think about it. The average teenager married by age 14-15, but only the females act like toddlers, and the men have a mental age that fits?? What excuse of culture do you have for excusing the way the male characters are usually 2-5 years older, but they aren't mentally immature to the point of infantile behaviour? It's pure conjecture on your part.
And, finally, here is a link to show how Esther Yu changes her voice to act more like a toddler:
https://youtu.be/MtxcS_TqrA4
And one more thing, no, she can't act. She needs training and perhaps a touch more maturity, but as long as people keep defending her actions, she will profit off of the marketability of infantilization, as there clearly, clearly is a market for it, and there will keep being one, unless people start stepping up, stop pretending it's "cultural", and demanding more.
I also equally dislike Zhao Lu Si, but, "Love of Thousand Years" was a great story (not well done for a few reasons, but still watchable).
I totally get your point. I'm not out to comment random negativity, I'm just saying why people who watched the trailer still gave it and Ms. Yu a chance, and Xanxia in general. Also how I got roped into saying things about Ms. Yu by her stans on here.
You can insult me all you want just because I have a different opinion than you, but facts are that no grown woman or 14-15 year old acts like a baby.
Personally, I want to watch the story, without the FL that was cast. The actual story can be great, like in, "Love of Thousand Years".
It's really not the viewer's fault that annoying actresses are cast because of their cuteness factor. I like to think I have an open mind, so I give Xanxia a chance, in case the story is really good, but in this case, the FL is well.... annoying, yes, like most FLs in Xanxia. I don't think it's my fault for giving it a chance though. I also don't think I should have to censor my opinion just because I gave the genre another chance.
If you don't like the reviews, isn't it easy enough not to read them? I will still give Xanxia a go, because of my love of costume dramas and the chance of an amazing story.