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You are on a wrong board. If you want to engage in denouncing the West and keep on with your pro China propaganda go to Reddit or Twitter.

You are telling everybody what is happening everywhere: in the West, (which btw is not any one place but helluva many) in Korea, in Singapore in China. Do you live all over the globe at the same time, and that makes you an authority on every country, legal systems, efficacy of policies and history of the world?

Singapore also jails people for chewing gum. Not a country I would consider a role model.

Mass addiction was due to the fact that Chinese liked opium and didn't like their lives. It became wildly available and they took to it. I am not whitewashing British Empire, but it takes two to tango. My response was to the original idiotic assertions about the West and efficacy of hardliners.

It is an old photograph. he doesn't look "better".

Yes, the more conservative official face of a society the more prurient the underbelly. China, with all its censorship has an appalling problem with sexual abuse. Historically, Victorian England , with its puritanical morals, had an astonishing and utterly perverted prostitution and abuse . So did Rome and Vatican and so on. In America we have a problem with revenge porn and all sort of ugliness, but I very much doubt it is caused by 20 somethings watching a movie. It is not what they see in movies, it is how the society deals with sex, women, pleasure, power, it is what they saw at home, in school, college, and so on. . In my view art and movies should not be censored to always present 'wholesome' values . If a 'degrading' scene in a movie is a part of a story then it belongs there. We can't shield 'young people' from everything in the world. They need to learn how to deal with it including its ugliness.

Interstate trafficking of substantial amount are enforced. But use is decriminalised in a number of states. California was the first with Compassionate Use Act in 1996 for medical use, but now it is legal in for adult recreational use as well. But the law is not very well developed and there are huge difficulties with the industry. It is all too new .

You seem to have a lot of opinions about money and 'normal people' 😂

You are barking up a wrong tree. Sure it should be federally rescheduled , and norml should keep the pressure up. But I am guessing it is not going to happen right now - other things take precedence. But Feds are not vigorously enforcing it in states where it was decriminalized.

Have you spend any time in a Korean prison?

He (she? they?) should read more on what happened in China in 1953, or in 8th century when opium was introduced by Arab traders, or 16 century when they started to mix opium with tobacco .

The US has a lot of laws in the books that lay dormant. This is one of them.

you are missing the point. You think culture is only movies, food, and such. It is not, culture in the operational system of a society. Immigrants stay within their communities everywhere, because transition from one culture to the new is psychologically one of the most difficult things to do. Second and third generation will move away for good. But the widespread immigrant habbid of dissing the host culture who gave you the opportunities is annoying.

More than that: he started taking pain killers because of severe chronic pain : he had a bone tumor, and then a bad shoulder injury, both bad enough for the military to refuse to enlist him. Add to it chronic insomnia and depression . So basically he is going to spend a year in jail and pay huge amounts of money - while his movies are pulled out by the networks - because he couldn't handle excruciating chronic pain. Makes total sense, right?

I love the quote you posted by Jacob Nordby. Blessed be, indeed.

Extraterritorial law means that many laws of your country apply to you everywhere you go. I get it that you think it's nuts, but I was trying to explain that is has merit. I do agree however that SK laws about drugs are nuts. As to "schizophrenic as hell" - sure. But that is a funny thing about conservative societies all over the world: the most prudish societies historically had and still have the most prurient underbelly. I am not saying Korea is prurient - but it is not surprising to me that there is a dichotomy between the conservative patriarchal traditions and the most graphic, most naked sex scenes. :)

Not exactly. Every country exercises what is known as Extraterritorial jurisdiction, which covers a lot of ground, and a lot of things, like military bases, embassy, delegations and tourist. , That what lets us to have legal protection of our government when traveling abroad. For instance, if a US citizen commits an act that is criminal in the US, let's say have sex with an underage prostitute in Philippines , or joins a militant organization. Even if it has nothing to do with the US, that citizen can be prosecuted at home. Korea has very harsh drug laws, and personally I find them cruel, ineffectual, and corrupt. But there is a history of extreme collective trauma visavi drugs , so it is not surprising to me that SK - which is still a very conservative and closed society - made their drug laws extraterritorial. Doesn't change the fact that I think this is a showcase and he is made an example of.

Yes, there is a right to call this law stupid. There is a right to call it horrid, cruel, backward and the rest. Tolerance to the intolerable is the most hypocritical position there is .

How does wrong elsewhere make this wrong OK? It's like saying - so what that you got raped, other people get raped too. Does that make any sense? Drug laws differ from country to country, heck, in the US they even differ from state to state. Marijuana is legal in California and illegal in Illinois. Oregon decriminalize all possession of all drugs, but drug pushers are persecuted. Netherlands decriminalized marijuana decades ago, and the possession of most drugs, but they have mandatory treatments for heavy drugs, and they deal with people who get addicted to painkillers as persons who need serious help. Portugal, Czech Republic and several others decriminalize marijuana . Why? Because punishing people is not producing good results for the society. S.Korean law sucks because it seeks to indiscriminately and severely punish individuals who harm no one but themselves. Nobody ever gets addicted to drugs because they are happy and healthy. Drugs usually are the way to alleviate some serious physical and emotional suffering. How would punishing people ease that suffering? Punitive laws have been proven time and again to do nothing to reduce the drug use in the society. They don't work as a deterrent, they don't work as a solution. It is pointless, except in demonstrating the power of the state to cause more suffering to their citizens.

Talking to you is like trying to explain colors to a blind. Not worth it. Bye.