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Just finished watching this and the social message of this is so true even for today.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 31, 2024
Title Hidden Love Spoiler
Instead of reading Hidden Love read The End of Eternity; the book shown multiple times in the drama. It will give…
Here are four places you can go: Kindle (Amazon), Google Books (chapters 1-9 for free); or Internet Archive. You might also get it online at your local library.

Here is a brief summary of the book. It is a social commentary on the use of nuclear weapons during WWII intertwined with a love story.

Here are the three main relevant topics. First is the age gap of the couple. In The End of Eternity (TEE) the couple are five years apart: the male 32 and the female 27. The drama writers of Hidden Love lowered the age to five years and began at 14 for SZ which is the age of consent in China. Age of majority is 18 (able to conduct business and employment). Marriageable age is 20 (f)/22 (m). The four most important scenes in the drama for the age gaps: the doorway scene (14), the dorm and car scenes (17), and then the hospital scene (18).

Second is the male's job. Harlan is a Technician for a time-travel program called Eternity. His job is to travel through time and find places where inventions end up hurting many people. Then, he figures out a reality change with the least amount of impact on the present and future people called Timers. He is good at playing the "what if" game. During one of his trips he meets a woman named Noys and falls in love with her. Their love is forbidden because no one besides the people who work at Eternity know about Eternity. It is outside the realm of reality. When a reality change writes out Noys' existence, Harlan, takes her out of her reality and places her in the hidden centuries reality (outside of Eternity's reach). DJX is a gaming programmer. If I am correct his programs deal with making interactions between the characters more realistic and providing different outcomes based on those interactions. DJX starts hiding some of his interactions with SZ (the milk bottle scene, the bike ride, the promise he makes with SZ at the museum, and getting her a stuffed animal). All things that can be interpreted as dating interactions, but are also considered brotherly affection according to most commenters. In addition, these are done at her age of 17 (a moral gray area).

Finally, at the end the novel, we find out that Noys is the one who actually manipulated the present scenario. She wants Harlan to destroy Eternity, so that she and he can live happily ever after in a past reality. This includes sending a letter to a man in Italy to make sure the atomic bomb goes off in 1945. Sang Zhi is the manipulator from start to finish. She wants a happy ending just like the author of Hidden Love. She does everything she can with the limitations that she has to get the desired outcome, the paper stars. However, there is a cost for doing this her unrequited love from 14-17. DJX gives her an essay expressing how happy he is to see her again. He is manipulating the outcome as well just like his job.

This is a very well done story from the acting to the editing of each episode. The screenwriter(s) played the "what if" game with the characters in Hidden Love. Given the author's age at the time of major events in the novel Hidden Love (13-15), would the audience see DJX as a pervert? My answer is yes. This is why they went with the brother scenario. It was the safest choice. An even safer choice would have been doing a historical drama, wait already been done. But if they go with the brother scenario at 14, how will that play out three years later when she is 17and again when she turns 19? Hence the introduction of the fox toy, TEE, and the "essay". I will let you ponder the rest and let you draw your own conclusions. For me this is more than just a simple unrequited love story (been there, seen that), it explores women's sexuality at different ages. The perceptions held by the audience at the age of the girl determine how the next stage will be interpreted.

The novel will also give you another reason why Sang Zhi speaks in a childish voice throughout most of the drama. There are many other relevant items of the story to the drama, but I will let you discover those on your own if you choose to read TEE. Happy reading.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 27, 2024
Yes, they do split up for 5 years. It is from episode 50 to episode 55. However, there is a good reason for the…
No problem. Happy watching!
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 27, 2024
Yes, they do split up for 5 years. It is from episode 50 to episode 55. However, there is a good reason for the…
She says this about him, he, "repays grace with a grievance" (Viki) or "How can you repay kindness with evil?" (Fresh Drama). Before they break up, their whole relationship is based on this statement. He does everything that is romantic to win her favor (rescues her, makes her clothes, gives her a piggy back ride, etc.). She does the same thing rescues him, makes him armor, changes her reputation for him, etc. But the one thing neither of them do is treat each other as an equal. This is why they break up. He repays her grace with a grievance. I hope that I have not said too much.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 26, 2024
Title Hidden Love
Instead of reading Hidden Love read The End of Eternity; the book shown multiple times in the drama. It will give…
Actually, it is shown five times and a part of it is read by Sang Zi.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 26, 2024
Title Hidden Love
Instead of reading Hidden Love read The End of Eternity; the book shown multiple times in the drama. It will give…
Yes.
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Replying to yuta May 26, 2024
Title Hidden Love Spoiler
rewatching again and i might read the novel again too
Instead of reading Hidden Love read The End of Eternity; the book shown multiple times in the drama. It will give you further insights behind the drama and why it was made the way it was.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 25, 2024
Yes, they do split up for 5 years. It is from episode 50 to episode 55. However, there is a good reason for the…
No, it's not. Think about what SS says at the end of episode 1 about LBY.
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Replying to ALYSSA May 25, 2024
I'm watching this rn and I'm on episode 40. i accidentally skipped to episode 50 and watched a few minutes of…
Yes, they do split up for 5 years. It is from episode 50 to episode 55. However, there is a good reason for the break up and many things go on during that break up that need to be dealt with. But I promise you they do get back together, and there is a happy ending.
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Replying to adjani May 23, 2024
Well done babe.... hope you have enjoyed it so far. And yesh. quite a few people have commented (mostly on weibo…
That makes more sense. What I saw of ZL's performance was what she did in other dramas, but then I only got to episode 15 for other reasons. So I can't really judge her performance here.
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Replying to adjani May 23, 2024
Title The Legend of Shen Li Spoiler
Well done babe.... hope you have enjoyed it so far. And yesh. quite a few people have commented (mostly on weibo…
If you are talking about Zhao Li Ying, she is not in Love Like the Galaxy. The main character Love Like the Galaxy is played by Zhao Lu Si. These two are very different actresses. Zhao Li Ying played in Princess Agents with the main lead. Fans really wanted a drama where the two had a happy ending. This was it.
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Replying to ayuna May 23, 2024
was it ever explained why the goblin could stay after he died? beside of her blowing out a candle what made him…
I watched 16 out of 19 episodes. I have a hard time watching the fantasy genre, but wanted to watch this because of all the rave reviews. For me, the story did not make sense, so if you watch it and can tell me why the Goblin needed a wife to pull out his sword, let me know. Otherwise, to me it was just an older guy fantasy about having a younger girlfriend. I thought midlife crisis.
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Replying to ayuna May 22, 2024
was it ever explained why the goblin could stay after he died? beside of her blowing out a candle what made him…
The Goblin is an immortal because he was wrongfully killed by the king (emperor?) because the Goblin was becoming too powerful according to the king's advisor. The Goblin's sister is killed because she sided with her brother and not the king who was her husband. In the end, the king regretted his decision and kills himself thus becoming the Grime Reaper.

The fantasy genre is all about redemption, but I am trying to figure out why the Goblin needed to be redeemed. He didn't do anything wrong. He followed the king's orders and kept the country safe. It is the king who should be the Goblin looking for redemption for his mistake of killing two loyal subjects.

That's why this story made no sense to me.
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Replying to Hidden Love May 19, 2024
Title Hidden Love
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This is a discussion forum. I, too, have written comments about dramas that people have attacked me on and have deleted them. We should all be able to share our thoughts and opinions without feeling bullied for having them. If you don't want to engage with the commenter, don't respond. They will get the picture.

Remember we are all putting ourselves out there for criticism when we write something. But why does it have to be that way? Why can't people just have a healthy discussion? It's how we learn.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 18, 2024
Title The Legend of Shen Li Spoiler
You are not the only who felt this way. I couldn't make it past episode 15. I even tried watching the end and…
Rallister, if they give the reason for the miasma in a later episode, then I would have missed it because I only watched to episode 15. There is a social commentary arc on pollution and protecting the ozone layer. It starts when the main leads fix the dead tree gate of the abyss. The main female lead says something to the effect, "I hope our future generation gets to enjoy these leaves someday." Fu Rong places a protective barrier over the Northern City Academy. This barrier represents the ozone layer which is slowly being eaten up and creating climate change.

The writers are using figurative language to get across a social message. Hollywood has been doing it for years. Why can't the Chinese media do the same thing? It is one the few things that I like about this drama.

Thanks for the discussion.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 18, 2024
Title The Legend of Shen Li Spoiler
You are not the only who felt this way. I couldn't make it past episode 15. I even tried watching the end and…
I apologize for not responding sooner. Everything in the world is a cycle. Currently we have more CO2 in the atmosphere and oceans than we do in the ground. This is due to many things (deforestation, acid rain, poisonous fog). In the story miasma is said to be a poisonous fog coming off the mountains. Fog is created when a mass of warm air and cold air hit each other. With temperatures rising and meeting the cooler air in the mountains where the trees must have died, the heavy concentration of CO2 will create a poisonous gas or vapors. The wind will blow it down into the city. I am only going by what the translations of the text on Viki say. I could be wrong on this.

If the trees, plants, and grasses are all dead, oxygen can't be produced. Therefore if the poisonous miasma is coming down from the mountains, it means there are no plants, trees, or body of water taking in the CO2 in the air to produce oxygen.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 14, 2024
You are not the only who felt this way. I couldn't make it past episode 15. I even tried watching the end and…
Not a problem. The dead trees, the poisoned miasma are all effects of climate change. The release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere is more than the producers can handle. I love what they were trying to do and the message they were trying to get out.
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Replying to Badgal1995 May 14, 2024
It's good to share your feelings after watching. I think it's a cup of taste question whether people like this…
As I said before, I'm glad that you enjoyed it and got so much out it. I hope that you will watch other productions with the two main leads in them and come to understand what I am talking about when I say an actor can become bored with a part. Happy watching.
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Replying to Platinum Fox May 14, 2024
Title The Legend of Shen Li Spoiler
You are not the only who felt this way. I couldn't make it past episode 15. I even tried watching the end and…
I apologize I used some idioms found in the United States. "Phoning it in" especially when it comes to acting means the actors just play the roles without any thought to making the characters special or different from other similar roles. It can also mean that they have played one role for so long that the character has lost all meaning. I felt this way about the two main leads in this drama. Both leads could not make up their minds about how they were going to make these characters special or different than other parts they have played.

"Bored to tears" in this instance means the actors played their roles with little enthusiasm. The main leads were both so bored with their characters that they looked like they were going to cry.

As I said, the redeemable part of this production was its commentary on climate change and its effects. The story arc where the two leads fix the doorways to the abyss. There is a scene where the male lead fixes the dead tree so it will grow. The female lead says, "I hope our children are able to see and enjoy the green trees in the future." The comic relief character when he goes to the poisoned gas city and other scenes. Talk about the importance of cleaning up the air and water of the place. Hollywood has been using the media to promote social change since its conception. Why can't China's media?
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