Allowing fans to volunteer and provide subtitles means that languages that are not widely used across her viewers would actually have a chance to get subtitles. When only allowing professional paid subtitles, only the bigger languages will be given subtitles (because it only makes sense to pay for the most popular languages). Allowing fans to make subtitles means that fans who speak smaller languages would have a chance to enjoy the videos through their own language, because another fan has put in the time to translate them. Also fansubs seem to always be more enjoyable than professional subtitles in my opinion.
Giving people the chance to volunteer to help fellow speakers of their language enjoy the content was a nice thing to do. It's a shame that people have reacted negatively, without considering the benefits. Even if it would make sense to ask her to pay for professional subtitles for the larger languages, the smaller languages should still be open for volunteers to make subtitles.
Allowing fans to volunteer and provide subtitles means that languages that are not widely used across her viewers would actually have a chance to get subtitles. When only allowing professional paid subtitles, only the bigger languages will be given subtitles (because it only makes sense to pay for the most popular languages). Allowing fans to make subtitles means that fans who speak smaller languages would have a chance to enjoy the videos through their own language, because another fan has put in the time to translate them. Also fansubs seem to always be more enjoyable than professional subtitles in my opinion.
Giving people the chance to volunteer to help fellow speakers of their language enjoy the content was a nice thing to do. It's a shame that people have reacted negatively, without considering the benefits. Even if it would make sense to ask her to pay for professional subtitles for the larger languages, the smaller languages should still be open for volunteers to make subtitles.
Would've enjoyed a bit more about where everyone has ended up in present day, but I really enjoyed the ending regardless. When something is based on reality, it can be insensitive to have a happy ending where everyone magically survives. I liked the ending even though it hurt
First saw him in Two Cops, then Start Up, and just finished Hometown Cha Cha Cha yesterday. This guy needs way more roles. He is absolutely brilliant. I look forward to seeing his future projects :D
really disappointed that they killed off Dong Hui. Easy solution to a complex issue. Same thing with the biological…
i found that plotline so strange. I think it was just Hae-E's strange way of wanting to do something good for Haeng-Seon, by leaving with her bio mother so that Haeng-Seon isn't "burdened" with having to raise Hae-E anymore. I think Hae-E was being extra rude to everyone so that it would be easier for her to go away with her bio mother, because she had "ruined" her relationship with Haeng-Seon, and so theoretically, it would be easier for Haeng-Seon to lose her when she goes away. But of course, her being rude wouldn't be enough for Haeng-Seon to suddenly be ok with losing her.
It was a weirdly done plotline. They didn't make it extremely clear that Hae-E wasn't just being rude because she's suddenly really mean. It kinda just jumped and began the plotline and never really addressed what was happening.
Honestly, episode 1 as a standalone story was a little masterpiece. I love when shows have such a jam-packed episode 1 (Itaewon Class comes to mind here too).
Episode 1 was just magnificent. I gave the whole show 8.5, but episode 1 was a 9.5 for me.
Honestly, episode 1 as a standalone story was a little masterpiece. I love when shows have such a jam-packed episode 1 (Itaewon Class comes to mind here too).
Episode 1 was just magnificent. I gave the whole show 8.5, but episode 1 was a 9.5 for me.
"Even after reading your letters I didn't look for you for 15 years. Mr Nam on the other hand went to you the…
I felt that this line was such a cop-out. The reason Han Ji-Pyeong didn't look for her was because the letters were just a way for him and the grandmother to give her something to cheer her up. If he went to her and told her who he was, it would've only upset her because he was just a teenage boy helping the grandmother, and he was years older than her, and not actually in love with her. There was no logical reason for him to ever actually find her and tell her who he was. The whole point was to make her believe that a boy her age had a crush on her and wanted to be her penpal. If he had gone to her back then and said who he was, it'd upset her that "Do-San" didn't actually exist, and also he was older, so it'd be weird.
Chose this show quite hastily after finishing an airing drama that i had loved, so i was just rushing to fill the hole in my heart. I saw Kim Seon-Ho and Bae Suzy and just clicked into it without much consideration. I'd read the description on here back when it was airing but didn't take much interest.
Firstly, NONE of the descriptions I've read about this show even MENTION the plotline of Dal-Mi receiving the letters from "Nam Do-San" who is really Han Ji-Pyeong, and then the real Do-San pretending to be the guy from the letters. In my eyes, this entire plotline is basically the entire POINT of the show, and the main appeal, so I find it utterly bizarre that neither the description on MDL or Netflix even mentions this plot. I get that it's about the businessy vibes and seeing whether they'll succeed, and how everyone has different reasons for entering Sandbox and yadda yadda yadda, but the letters plotline is SO MUCH of the show, it's so strange that it's brushed under the rug in most descriptions.
Now, I'm just casually suffering from yet another case of SLS, but damn, I really don't understand how we're supposed to feel anything but upset about that ending. I can't wrap my head around why she chooses Do-San in the end. Han Ji-Pyeong had the whole backstory with the letters, he was homies with the grandmother, and he always did so much for Dal-Mi. He helped her and even was blunt and honest when she needed to hear the truth. There is no logical reason for her to be so hung up on Do-San 3 years later.
This show has messed up my ability to enjoy love triangles now. I used to love them, but now, i just don't see the point in them. We obviously know who the main girl will pick from day 1 because we know who is the first male lead and second male lead just from looking at promo photos or cast lists. It's not a guessing game most of the time. So we already know who's gonna get picked in the end, so what's the point in the triangle? I think i've reached a point now, because of this show, where I can only enjoy a love triangle if we get to see at least a small amount of time where the FL picks the second male lead, even just for an episode. Start Up could have easily done this by showing us that Dal-Mi and Han Ji-Pyeong have developed some type of romance in the 3 years where Do-San was gone. Even if they weren't explicitly dating, we could've been shown that they have a bit of flirty romantic moments at times. I get that Han Ji-Pyeong wasn't the type to swoop in and shoot his shot while Dal-Mi was emotionally vulnerable dealing with the whole contract situation, but in 3 years, i struggle to believe that he wouldn't have at least attempted to start a romantic relationship.
ok, ive written a lot now. I actually really enjoyed this. I gave it 8.5, but damn i just see zero reason for her to pick Do-San other than that he was her first boyfriend(?) and they'd worked so closely together and he'd made NoonGil to help the grandmother.
The brief description, plain cover photo, and lack of comments in recent years may put you off watching this show, but I highly recommend giving it a watch. (It's only 125 minutes total- if even).
It's an interesting story about how not everyone is how they seem on the outside, and how everyone has a side we don't know about.
It's a good, short watch. It's a bit hard to find, as Dramacool doesn't have it on some versions. I watched it on "myasiantv.tv" which i've never been on before, so i dont know if it's perfectly safe.
Someone please let me know if English subs are out for this yet
I was a big fan of Kim Dong-Hee in 2019 and 2020 and then he full-on dropped off the face of the Earth for 3 years, so i am really looking forward to seeing him onscreen again.
Please, if you're going to watch this, you gotta take your mind back to when you were about 12 or 13 to enjoy it fully.
I first watched it when it was still airing. I was 12, and in my final year of primary school. I'd never even heard of asian dramas. Aside from the NHK World tv channel, and a couple of dubbed animes, this was my first proper insight into Asia. Watching this show filled me with this huge sense of wonder. Everything was so unfamiliar, it was fascinating. The language, the food, the streets, the school... everything was so alien to me, i was so curious about it all. The way this show is filmed with that kinda hazy camera blur really added to those feelings.
For me, i find that the best way to watch shows like this one- i.e. usually J-dramas from the late 2000's to mid 2010's with silly plots like this, is to try and step back into the childlike sense of wonder you may have felt when watching your first ever drama (probably only applies if your country is very culturally different to the drama's country). For me, these kind of shabby dramas that have somewhat stupid romance plots certainly aren't the "best" dramas i've seen, but they're the ones that make me feel lots of nostalgia, happiness and warmth.
Dramas like this serve to help you step back into your younger years, in my opinion. Although maybe this doesnt apply if your first ever drama was some brand new high quality Kdrama like Crash landing on you, or something lolol. Your standards might have been set too high from the start. My first dramas were Good Morning Call, Playful Kiss, and Mischievous Kiss, so i can tolerate this particular type of silly drama lol
Why they have to go give my guy Looney that shitty ending ðŸ˜
it was a painful ending, but i think it was a clever choice by the writers. We see most of the cellmates getting a happy ending (Kim Je-Hyeok is released, Captain Yoo is found innocent, Kim Min-Chul finally gets out and goes to meet his daughter and Jean Valjean..) everyone seems to get a happy ending, and even Looney is being set up to have a happy ending with his boyfriend and parents waiting for him.
But then BAM, we're hit with the sad ending. It's so sudden and unexpected because we had gotten used to everyone else's happy endings.
In reality, for a drug addict like Looney, a sad ending like this is highly likely to happen, probably more likely than the other characters ending up in prison again. I found it to be a clever ending.. a shocking reminder of the realities that certain prisoners are living in.
I watched this over 3 years ago and still cant accept the fact that they never brought back the two characters who gave him the Abyss at the start. I was so ready to see them show up in the end to save Min, but it never happened wahhhhh.
does anyone know how i can find shows with a twist villain like this without getting it spoiled?
Like, i'd want to search and see "crash course in romance has a twist villain", but not be told who that twist villain is. is there a "twist villain" tag on MDL?
Please recommend literally any twist villain drama i'm desperate
Giving people the chance to volunteer to help fellow speakers of their language enjoy the content was a nice thing to do. It's a shame that people have reacted negatively, without considering the benefits. Even if it would make sense to ask her to pay for professional subtitles for the larger languages, the smaller languages should still be open for volunteers to make subtitles.
Giving people the chance to volunteer to help fellow speakers of their language enjoy the content was a nice thing to do. It's a shame that people have reacted negatively, without considering the benefits. Even if it would make sense to ask her to pay for professional subtitles for the larger languages, the smaller languages should still be open for volunteers to make subtitles.
But of course, her being rude wouldn't be enough for Haeng-Seon to suddenly be ok with losing her.
It was a weirdly done plotline. They didn't make it extremely clear that Hae-E wasn't just being rude because she's suddenly really mean. It kinda just jumped and began the plotline and never really addressed what was happening.
Episode 1 was just magnificent. I gave the whole show 8.5, but episode 1 was a 9.5 for me.
Episode 1 was just magnificent. I gave the whole show 8.5, but episode 1 was a 9.5 for me.
The reason Han Ji-Pyeong didn't look for her was because the letters were just a way for him and the grandmother to give her something to cheer her up. If he went to her and told her who he was, it would've only upset her because he was just a teenage boy helping the grandmother, and he was years older than her, and not actually in love with her.
There was no logical reason for him to ever actually find her and tell her who he was. The whole point was to make her believe that a boy her age had a crush on her and wanted to be her penpal. If he had gone to her back then and said who he was, it'd upset her that "Do-San" didn't actually exist, and also he was older, so it'd be weird.
Firstly, NONE of the descriptions I've read about this show even MENTION the plotline of Dal-Mi receiving the letters from "Nam Do-San" who is really Han Ji-Pyeong, and then the real Do-San pretending to be the guy from the letters. In my eyes, this entire plotline is basically the entire POINT of the show, and the main appeal, so I find it utterly bizarre that neither the description on MDL or Netflix even mentions this plot. I get that it's about the businessy vibes and seeing whether they'll succeed, and how everyone has different reasons for entering Sandbox and yadda yadda yadda, but the letters plotline is SO MUCH of the show, it's so strange that it's brushed under the rug in most descriptions.
Now, I'm just casually suffering from yet another case of SLS, but damn, I really don't understand how we're supposed to feel anything but upset about that ending. I can't wrap my head around why she chooses Do-San in the end. Han Ji-Pyeong had the whole backstory with the letters, he was homies with the grandmother, and he always did so much for Dal-Mi. He helped her and even was blunt and honest when she needed to hear the truth. There is no logical reason for her to be so hung up on Do-San 3 years later.
This show has messed up my ability to enjoy love triangles now. I used to love them, but now, i just don't see the point in them. We obviously know who the main girl will pick from day 1 because we know who is the first male lead and second male lead just from looking at promo photos or cast lists. It's not a guessing game most of the time. So we already know who's gonna get picked in the end, so what's the point in the triangle? I think i've reached a point now, because of this show, where I can only enjoy a love triangle if we get to see at least a small amount of time where the FL picks the second male lead, even just for an episode. Start Up could have easily done this by showing us that Dal-Mi and Han Ji-Pyeong have developed some type of romance in the 3 years where Do-San was gone. Even if they weren't explicitly dating, we could've been shown that they have a bit of flirty romantic moments at times. I get that Han Ji-Pyeong wasn't the type to swoop in and shoot his shot while Dal-Mi was emotionally vulnerable dealing with the whole contract situation, but in 3 years, i struggle to believe that he wouldn't have at least attempted to start a romantic relationship.
ok, ive written a lot now.
I actually really enjoyed this. I gave it 8.5, but damn i just see zero reason for her to pick Do-San other than that he was her first boyfriend(?) and they'd worked so closely together and he'd made NoonGil to help the grandmother.
It's an interesting story about how not everyone is how they seem on the outside, and how everyone has a side we don't know about.
It's a good, short watch. It's a bit hard to find, as Dramacool doesn't have it on some versions. I watched it on "myasiantv.tv" which i've never been on before, so i dont know if it's perfectly safe.
I was a big fan of Kim Dong-Hee in 2019 and 2020 and then he full-on dropped off the face of the Earth for 3 years, so i am really looking forward to seeing him onscreen again.
I first watched it when it was still airing. I was 12, and in my final year of primary school. I'd never even heard of asian dramas. Aside from the NHK World tv channel, and a couple of dubbed animes, this was my first proper insight into Asia.
Watching this show filled me with this huge sense of wonder. Everything was so unfamiliar, it was fascinating. The language, the food, the streets, the school... everything was so alien to me, i was so curious about it all. The way this show is filmed with that kinda hazy camera blur really added to those feelings.
For me, i find that the best way to watch shows like this one- i.e. usually J-dramas from the late 2000's to mid 2010's with silly plots like this, is to try and step back into the childlike sense of wonder you may have felt when watching your first ever drama (probably only applies if your country is very culturally different to the drama's country). For me, these kind of shabby dramas that have somewhat stupid romance plots certainly aren't the "best" dramas i've seen, but they're the ones that make me feel lots of nostalgia, happiness and warmth.
Dramas like this serve to help you step back into your younger years, in my opinion.
Although maybe this doesnt apply if your first ever drama was some brand new high quality Kdrama like Crash landing on you, or something lolol. Your standards might have been set too high from the start. My first dramas were Good Morning Call, Playful Kiss, and Mischievous Kiss, so i can tolerate this particular type of silly drama lol
But then BAM, we're hit with the sad ending. It's so sudden and unexpected because we had gotten used to everyone else's happy endings.
In reality, for a drug addict like Looney, a sad ending like this is highly likely to happen, probably more likely than the other characters ending up in prison again.
I found it to be a clever ending.. a shocking reminder of the realities that certain prisoners are living in.
Like, i'd want to search and see "crash course in romance has a twist villain", but not be told who that twist villain is. is there a "twist villain" tag on MDL?
Please recommend literally any twist villain drama i'm desperate