You obviously did not read the review, and only want to hear your own thoughts.
You're entitled to your opinion about the drama but claiming that no Chinese person is gay is a little bit much. The reason there's barely any gay representation on Chinese tv is because of censorship, not because there are no gay people in China. In fact, the boy love (BL) was on the rise in China in 2016 until the government forbid it (look up Addicted:Heroin). Now most Chinese people just read gay novels (danmei) or watch gay shows from Taiwan/Thailand. As a BL-fan I invite you to take a look at the current selection: China: https://kisskh.at/list/61GEYDo3 Taiwan: https://kisskh.at/list/b4qN7wQ1 Determine for yourself whether Chinese people can be gay or not.
I don't know how you would even think that no Chinese person could be gay. Being gay isn't wrong and I advice you to watch some gay love-stories from Asia to develop some empathy. Mayby BL or bromance aren't your genres but let us BL-fans have our gay content like you have your martial arts stories please. You like looking at guys fight and we like looking at guys kiss, that's all.
I gotta thank you for one thing though, while scrolling through the Chinese BL-list I found a new gay movie I'm going to watch.
Coincidentally I've recently been watching the j-dramas he's in and keep recognising him. Like Raise de wa Chanto Shimasu and Kinou Nani Tabeta?. He's a fun actor, hope he continues to get more work.
found it with eng sub on youtube broken up into 9 parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm84PXlD0xc&list=PLE61411DC9AAF4F7A&index=1
Thank you! For those planning to watch with sound, it's in stereo with both canto and mandarin. I personally wasn't bothered since I just read subs. Also, the ending isn't in the 9 parts.
Thanks for the reply, and if you update the list that'd be awesome. I am a huge BL fan too and like so much stuff.…
Thanks for your perspective as a longtime J-BL fan. For new BL fans like me it helps figure out the history and how we got what we have today through much trial and error.
My journey was as follows. I started with bromance at the end of 2019 thanks to the explosive popularity of The Untamed and went into BL at the start of 2020. My first BL was Tharntype and it got me learning about the entire history of Asian BL's. I had been exposed to J-BL content like some shounen-ai animated series or manga for years but nothing beyond that so I lived in a bubble.
I knew about the type of BL Japan used to produce in the past. Always those manga-adaptations with manga-tropes that would probably work way better animated (Takumi and other ~2010 J-BL series). I was so pleasantly surprised with Ossan's Love and even Seven Days (which was made in the transition-phase). I also realised that there was a sudden drop in BL-dramas that Japan experienced mid-2010's but in my experience it's only very recently that this has been recovering thanks to dramas like Ossan's love.
I hadn't made the connection to the succes of the Thai SOTUS in 2016 and the recovery of J-BL dramas. I didn't think the effect of SOTUS would've affected the Japanese BL-market but I'm glad to learn it did. Thai BL is booming and Taiwan BL is regarded with respect, they're the true frontrunners in this BL-drama race. I'm mainly calling these two countries out because of the 2016 Addicted-event that got all Chinese BL-drama cancelled and the Korean insistence on keeping BL out (they can get away with it since they're already highly popular with kdrama in general).
However, while I'm thankful for your information, I do have 1 point of criticism. You praise Thai BL for its many qualities and I understand why you would do that since you did mention you liked dark and heavy stuff (which is a valid sub-genre in the BL-community). Yes, Thai society is open in comparison to Japan but it carries a dark undertone. I'm talking about the amount of assault and r*pe featured in Thai BL. Don't get me wrong, Danmei/C-BL also has its share in that but this is less prominent right now due to the ban.
I just think that Thai BL would be much better off if they handled such heavy matters in a professional way and NOT as a trope to start off relationships. This problem is not just present in Thai-BL but also in certain lakorns (usually at the slap&kiss genre). Yes, I have watched Thai-BL like Tharntype that handle this in a wrong way and while I still love the story it would've been much better if they had addressed it better. Such behaviour should never be excused easily. I believe dark BL's have their place in the community but I just think that this excusing of terrible actions is still too widespread right now in seemingly innocent Thai-BL.
Anyway that's my opinion on that, now for my personal BL-preferences. I do actually like the angst in BL. Somehow it has a cuteness to it when watching a character figure out their feelings. They can act all embarrassed and shy and its adorable to see at times. It can also be fun to see one character who's comfortable tease the other one who's a lot more shy (not to the point of r*pe or assault though). While I do think that realistic BL-dramas have a much more important social function, these angsty BL-dramas are just copying the popular kdrama romance stories and they also have a place.
I loved the cooking, they showed it with such style! More importantly though, it reflects current views on LGBT in Japanese society. The main couple was incredibly wholesome and while it shows no intimacy it definitely does feel like a couple. There were also interesting side-characters. You really feel empathy for the main character as he tries to cope with daily life in his own ways.
I also liked the references to City Hunter and Kaze to Ki no Uta (one of the first BL mangas).
So you got these two BL-fans shipping the local schoolguys. Somehow one of the BL-girls and a guy get their souls swapped by some chaos-loving being. The BL-girl in a male body goes to hit majorly on the guys but the step-bro of the possessed guy recognises her so while physically it is his family, technically he falls in love with the BL-girl.
My prediction: Somehow eventually they switch back to their real bodies and BL-girl goes on to date the step-brother of the possessed guy and the possessed guy gets his own male love interest (because otherwise it wouldn't qualify as a BL).
I feel like a disaster-tourist right now, visiting a fandom warzone. Anyway, let me just say something everyone can agree on. Aside from everything concerning the drama, the guys Lee Min Ho and Woo Do Hwan are hot and need even more moments together.
Let's be real here, we all rewatched the scenes of Goblin for the male characters. I'll watch anything provided it has enough bromance scenes. So I hope this drama will deliver some more goods soon. I hope the fandom wars die down a bit soon too. I'm outta here now
I think there are some boring parts you kinda have to get through but there are also parts that will suprise you and give insight into the messed up situation. Before long you want to see the conclusion of this decades-long unfolding of events. It has some dark themes throughout the episodes. I felt the most sorry for Naomi though, he really is the victim of every mistake of the previous generation.
Yuri was pretty much the most obsessive person I've ever seen.
Cast looks incredibly beautiful although the lenses can look a bit scary. I get it though, it helps with the cat-visual. Anyway, they serve special drinks and help 2 people. That's about it in these 4 episodes. I'd say take a look at it, it's cute.
I personally love the fluffy and wholesome nature of this drama but this dude Jae Sun really did just get dropped in favour of a cat didn't he? That's gotta affect your selfesteem to some degree. Anyway, I'm just happy Hong Jo made it.
kdramas are great and all, but to say china would be mimicking the concept of crossdressing is almost hilariously…
Mulan is very different from the likes of Sungkyunkwan Scandal though. I'm not saying that China is new to the entire concept of crossdressing (I know about Butterfly Lovers and Mulan) but I was wondering if the type of crossdressing in kdramas influenced this one with certain tropes.
The reason there's barely any gay representation on Chinese tv is because of censorship, not because there are no gay people in China. In fact, the boy love (BL) was on the rise in China in 2016 until the government forbid it (look up Addicted:Heroin). Now most Chinese people just read gay novels (danmei) or watch gay shows from Taiwan/Thailand.
As a BL-fan I invite you to take a look at the current selection:
China: https://kisskh.at/list/61GEYDo3
Taiwan: https://kisskh.at/list/b4qN7wQ1
Determine for yourself whether Chinese people can be gay or not.
I don't know how you would even think that no Chinese person could be gay. Being gay isn't wrong and I advice you to watch some gay love-stories from Asia to develop some empathy. Mayby BL or bromance aren't your genres but let us BL-fans have our gay content like you have your martial arts stories please. You like looking at guys fight and we like looking at guys kiss, that's all.
I gotta thank you for one thing though, while scrolling through the Chinese BL-list I found a new gay movie I'm going to watch.
For those planning to watch with sound, it's in stereo with both canto and mandarin. I personally wasn't bothered since I just read subs.
Also, the ending isn't in the 9 parts.
My journey was as follows. I started with bromance at the end of 2019 thanks to the explosive popularity of The Untamed and went into BL at the start of 2020. My first BL was Tharntype and it got me learning about the entire history of Asian BL's. I had been exposed to J-BL content like some shounen-ai animated series or manga for years but nothing beyond that so I lived in a bubble.
I knew about the type of BL Japan used to produce in the past. Always those manga-adaptations with manga-tropes that would probably work way better animated (Takumi and other ~2010 J-BL series). I was so pleasantly surprised with Ossan's Love and even Seven Days (which was made in the transition-phase). I also realised that there was a sudden drop in BL-dramas that Japan experienced mid-2010's but in my experience it's only very recently that this has been recovering thanks to dramas like Ossan's love.
I hadn't made the connection to the succes of the Thai SOTUS in 2016 and the recovery of J-BL dramas. I didn't think the effect of SOTUS would've affected the Japanese BL-market but I'm glad to learn it did. Thai BL is booming and Taiwan BL is regarded with respect, they're the true frontrunners in this BL-drama race. I'm mainly calling these two countries out because of the 2016 Addicted-event that got all Chinese BL-drama cancelled and the Korean insistence on keeping BL out (they can get away with it since they're already highly popular with kdrama in general).
However, while I'm thankful for your information, I do have 1 point of criticism. You praise Thai BL for its many qualities and I understand why you would do that since you did mention you liked dark and heavy stuff (which is a valid sub-genre in the BL-community). Yes, Thai society is open in comparison to Japan but it carries a dark undertone. I'm talking about the amount of assault and r*pe featured in Thai BL. Don't get me wrong, Danmei/C-BL also has its share in that but this is less prominent right now due to the ban.
I just think that Thai BL would be much better off if they handled such heavy matters in a professional way and NOT as a trope to start off relationships. This problem is not just present in Thai-BL but also in certain lakorns (usually at the slap&kiss genre). Yes, I have watched Thai-BL like Tharntype that handle this in a wrong way and while I still love the story it would've been much better if they had addressed it better. Such behaviour should never be excused easily. I believe dark BL's have their place in the community but I just think that this excusing of terrible actions is still too widespread right now in seemingly innocent Thai-BL.
Anyway that's my opinion on that, now for my personal BL-preferences. I do actually like the angst in BL. Somehow it has a cuteness to it when watching a character figure out their feelings. They can act all embarrassed and shy and its adorable to see at times. It can also be fun to see one character who's comfortable tease the other one who's a lot more shy (not to the point of r*pe or assault though). While I do think that realistic BL-dramas have a much more important social function, these angsty BL-dramas are just copying the popular kdrama romance stories and they also have a place.
I also liked the references to City Hunter and Kaze to Ki no Uta (one of the first BL mangas).
So you got these two BL-fans shipping the local schoolguys. Somehow one of the BL-girls and a guy get their souls swapped by some chaos-loving being. The BL-girl in a male body goes to hit majorly on the guys but the step-bro of the possessed guy recognises her so while physically it is his family, technically he falls in love with the BL-girl.
My prediction:
Somehow eventually they switch back to their real bodies and BL-girl goes on to date the step-brother of the possessed guy and the possessed guy gets his own male love interest (because otherwise it wouldn't qualify as a BL).
Let's be real here, we all rewatched the scenes of Goblin for the male characters. I'll watch anything provided it has enough bromance scenes. So I hope this drama will deliver some more goods soon. I hope the fandom wars die down a bit soon too. I'm outta here now
Yuri was pretty much the most obsessive person I've ever seen.
Anyway, I'm just happy Hong Jo made it.