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I wish it was more socially acceptable for women to marry younger men, Also young girls now who think it’s awesome as a social convention for women to marry older men it’s not awesome. Any younger woman is eventually bound to get old and actually quite old at that since a girl who is in her twenties now will live until her 90 for sure (increased life expectancy).
The global rate for women being alone after 60 is actually pretty pretty high. Men on an average pass earlier than women by about 6/7 years and marry women on an average 4 to 6 years younger. (Statistical numbers that I have had access to as a financial analyst).
All of these translate to women being very lonely in their later years often more than a couple of decades even, especially when they actually need someone around the most. Also they live in poverty because for many countries laws, pensions sometimes are only paid out as long as the person is alive, if the person passes the spouse just get a fraction of it.
I have actually been part of awareness campaigns for older women (as a part of my job) and it’s gut wrenching to see how sad, lonely and often poor so many older widowed women are.
All of those problems would have been just not there if we saw more marriages of women marrying men of similar ages or probably a little younger.
Just my two cents from a purely socio-economic perspective.

Totally for real. This was even more cringy than the cheaters couple in FLAW.

I do agree but the master of her craft is the author and not us. A good storyteller can draw out multiple points of view with even a few heartfelt moments. For example - Eddie Munson’ death and that scene only took a few minutes but I confess I was extremely upset and shaken.
Here I am trying to say is that the author was not very balanced with her storytelling approach since she only focused on the protagonist. There is technically nothing wrong with it but I as a viewer connect emotionally better when there are multiple points of view for example “dear my friends”. Given my own life experiences with my friends parents as I mentioned I wanted probably a little bit more of those struggles do but again that’s my own experience I guess. So for me and my own perspective this drama did not have the impact that I was hoping for.
PS: her storytelling approach reminds me to how the author approaches storytelling in “Elmer the elephant” and its experiences. I think I have seen this type of technical approach to writing in many children books especially by authors such as Roald Dahl

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I am a huge rewatcher. Unfortunately the only drama that I found good enough to be rewatched this year was stranger things. So if you like this so much go ahead and watch. I did the same. I rewatched until volume 1 season 4 and then rewatched again when volume 2 landed, each time the impact as different. If you like this drama you can go ahead 😊😊😊

Totally, you used the right word. “Prop”. I have been fishing in my mind for it. 👍

This is what I feel about this drama. It’s missing something. It’s mostly from an inside out perspective, which is what an autistic person feels. But how does the non autistic person feel as a friend or partner or parent has not been explored.
When I watched the “Beautiful Mind”, not only did it delve very deeply into Russel Crowes’ mind we got Jennifer Conollys struggle too. I wish there were more scenes about how the father struggled to bring her up, the totally hopeless days when the child appears so unresponsive.
A few of my friends have siblings who are autistic. I have had my friends parents cry in front of me, saying some days are hard. Some of these friends have terrible relationship with their parents because their parents want the siblings to do more, since they themselves are getting older and may not be around forever. Other times these friends let go of their own choice to love and live, because they want to be 100 percent there for their siblings.
It takes a village, a person who is special and who is healthy has not achieved it on their own but also due to the love and support of the people around them. In a drama about autism I am amazed how the writers have conveniently not covered it.
Any social issue based drama needs to be more nuanced and cover things from multiple perspective and not just the titular character.

I liked the pairing in flaw, but hated the glorifying of the cheaters. The leads had zero scenes. Sometimes we don’t realise how bad a writer can mess up a story despite ok acting and decent direction. The writer of FLAW was on some other weird planet. I start ranting whenever it’s about this writer since she messed up where stars land also

Next will be a drama where the fl will turn into a glass slipper

Hope this is not a she and her perfect husband part 2 and takes 200 years to air.

Agree Asian mothers especially can be very toxic. Especially since they themselves faced misogyny all their lives. This friend now is in deep trouble since her marriage got delayed so much that now she has difficulty conceiving and guess who the mom will blame if she fails to conceive … it’s a nightmare really. Thankfully I did not go through this, but almost half of my friends have gone through this. A boy I knew (his mom stopped him from marrying someone he loved) just changed. He did what his mom asked him to do but became very rude and mean to everyone including his wife chosen by his mom. Parents Asian parents are super toxic.

I am romanticising no one. I am talking about agency. I come from a place where sometimes women are just not free to even make mistakes. See what’s happening in the world around you especially in South Asia and other extremely conservative cultures. That’s where I am coming from. even the female lead knows she is probably making a mistake, but the beauty of living in modern times in the art world that she inhabits, no one will judge her and she is strong and talented and she will recover.
I am talking about hypocrisy here, where we say a man should go for looks whilst a girl cannot. It’s a bit weird to explain I think because I am coming from a context and maybe it’s hard to type on a forum. So let’s leave it at that.
Also any relationship can get super toxic. Life experiences, bereavements, health mishaps, financial troubles can corrode and toxify the best of relationships. This is what my life of living on this planet for 35 odd years have taught me. Most of the times even if you have an awesome guy, motherhood, misogyny, peoples expectations will ensure that you never get to put yourself first anyways. This is why I feel that she thought in her heart that “I really like this guy. I am gonna go for it. I will be prepared for the consequences and I know I am so strong that I will live this through.” The drama to me is an embodiment of her growth as a person and as an artist. The last sculpture that she made was so beyond beautiful and she also stopped being a girl and became a woman. I just find the whole story to be a symbolic awakening of her person which is why I like this a lot.

I am in my thirties too and I find this relationship not bad since I have seen such relationships. In fact a relationship where the people are too good to be true almost always fails. Another thing maybe since I am south Asian it colours my perspective- the society forces you to go for the right guy even if you are not yourself attracted. A much older often up to 20 years older, not so attractive guy is forced upon you since he is right for you. Women who marry men because they were attracted are judged pretty harshly including with actual violent “honour” attacks. Having watched the drama where the female lead willingly makes a mistake having the confidence that she will ride it through, is super empowering to me. We need to have the agency to make our mistakes and own up to them. I think that’s the real message of this drama

Also the guy is not as toxic as people claim him to be. In fact a guy who appears too perfect would most likely be toxic. Which is why you see near perfect fairy tale marriages always ending in a split.

Exactly. I saw it with forecasting love and weather too. The first few episodes were so good. Then the writer bungled up the episodes and the actors also lost interest

That’s exactly what I am agreeing with everyone. Why use the cliche and make the family the villain. Why not show dialogue and people sitting down and talking to their families and working things out. Instead of the formulaic let’s break up at ep 14. Lots of unnecessary drama but the real issues don’t get resolved. So in a nutshell I agree with the larger sentiments of the people here. But I also want to add why do Korean dramas make dissent into complete disbandment. “We don’t agree with your choice so ergo you both break up. But don’t talk to us, rather breakup and Keep crying. Rinse repeat ad nauseam every single drama. “ 🙄

I don’t understand why people have a problem with family members not approving at first. It does not extend to only autism. Mental illnesses such as people with BPD or schizophrenia or physical difficulties too. The thing is family members understand that day to day living might be hard so it maybe hard for them to be supportive.
But what I don’t understand why people have a problem with conflict. If your family members have a problem you can have a dialogue with them convince them. Rome was not built in a day. It’s up to you as a couple that you can do it.
Which is why I love the Japanese drama perfect world so much. The show did not get judgy judgemental. The drama was a beautiful portrayal about how the paralysed lead could take care of the man’s daughter. They explored the father’s thought process, his emotions and then through a way of organic storytelling showed how the communication was handled. The father’s approval of his daughters relationship was such a huge emotional pay off for me. The Japanese drama is the best example of how to handle everyone’s perspective and treat it with respect while coming to a mutually perfect happy ending.
This drama should not treat the family members of the boy callously. Rather it should handle with more sensibility and let them both navigate the ups and downs without making family members as villains.

Thank you everyone

That’s what I am talking about. Instead of viewing it from a feminist lens this issue could have been tackled with a “country future” lens. It does seem like the author has an axe to grind to her viewers. All the women are smart and all the men are evil or not too intelligent in this drama (save for her dad). I am a south Asian and I have lived with extreme misogyny my whole life. So it’s not like I do not understand the writers intentions but there is a way to express their points and it is too blunt and not subtle in this drama. A lot arguments presented are opinions within the cases while the lawyers could have presented facts. For example this case - instead of saying women feel discriminated (it’s a feeling not logic), facts could have been presented that - GDP growth of Korea (even lower than Japan), birth rate (lower than Japan). I mean the jury would have sat up and listened. No Korean would want to be up ended by Japan of all of the places. But we get only emotions and opinions and feelings presented as arguments or data (info dump by lawyer woo.) There are no convincing remarks or closing arguments. In “I hear your voice” there was a story of the magpie with the plate. It sounded so convincing. A good lawyer has to woo and seduce the audience, not make them even more angry with judgemental remarks. If I am not wrong lawyers do study negotiation skills, human behaviour and psychology as undergrad courses, so they can sound more convincing. I don’t see the lawyers using those skills within this drama.

Song hye Kyo is very pretty and I like to watch her. I admit, I can be shallow where I like watching her on screen. On the other hand I also love watching heartfelt shows like “dear my friends”.
I wish we saw more duality (good looking + amazing performance) for example Jamie Bower as Vecna or James Dean. (How much I have wished he was alive).
Conversely I also wish we had plainer looking people too. disproportionately we have plainer looking male leads but not a single one plain female lead.
But I hear you, we like what we like. The same way people don’t like Song Hye Kyo, I cannot stand Jun Ji Hyun, I don’t like her acting and her nasally whiney voice and run a mile before I see any of her show. I just can’t