What you have pointed out is the point of the drama. Because you are upset by those opening episodes, the drama…
If you say so. I wish I had the time to tackle this topic and prove exactly how and why this doesn’t make sense and, if that was their aim, why the way they tried to convey it in the show resonates so poorly. I don’t have the time, so the only part I’ll address is your point about the drama supposedly saying no to relationships at 14 and 17, but yes at 19, all with just one single sentence.
The only reason she didn’t have a relationship at 14 or 17 is because she was single-mindedly set on dating one person. Had that person confessed earlier, even while she was underage, the relationship would’ve started then. This is a drama marketed to young girls that has pedophilic undertones.
You can’t stop a child or anybody, for that matter from being sexually active btw. In my opinion, once you’re at an age where you’re able to FULLY understand sex, and SAFE sex at that, it should be okay for you to decide what kind of sexual activity you want to participate in. kids will hide and do it either way. The problem here lies with who the sexual partner is.
You said that she gets a love interest at 14 and 17, then at 19??? That in itself also sends a bad message about whether or not you should wait until you’re legal to date that older guy you’ve always liked instead of finding a companion amongst your peers..
Had he confessed to her while she was 14 or 17, she would’ve accepted him without hesitation because she was already romantically interested in him. The only thing preventing the relationship from happening earlier wasn’t her age it was the fact that he hadn’t confessed. That’s why I don’t think the drama conveys the message you’re suggesting.
On kisskh, if you call out the obvious mistreatment of an actress under her currently airing show, especially after the director of that very show made perverted remarks about the actress, who was underage at the time…..they’ll jinjja, jinjja kill you if you say anything . 😮😲😳😳… lmao 🤣😂absolutely fuxking ridiculous!
Imagine being mad at me and thinking I’m commenting because I want the drama to fail, when in truth I couldn’t care less than I do right now about its success. Who gives a fuck? A young girl was subjected to inappropriate actions to film this either way. Why should I care if it succeed or fail? Now that you mentioned it….i sincerely do hope it fails, how about that?
I literally only see the discrepancies with the female lead’s agency and how they’re marketing her to older men. From the inappropriate comments made about her body, to the disgusting remarks made by the director, to her being cast in two romance dramas with men almost twice her age.
But yeah, I’m the bad guy for saying something about it.
What the director said is absolutely wrong. But he said the same words to Zhang Linghe and Zhao Jinmai on their…
Jealous of what? Pray, do tell. Jealous of who??? I bet I could knock on your head and it’d echo. I’m talking about the young actress being targeted by inappropriate older men, and you’re calling me jealous of what exactly? The chance to be groomed and taken advantage of? Just dumb as hell.
What the director said is absolutely wrong. But he said the same words to Zhang Linghe and Zhao Jinmai on their…
I never talked about anybody’s parents. I asked if they were raised by dogs. They could’ve simply said, “No, I was raised by human parents.” 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️ I had to ask since they think it’s okay to defend a man making inappropriate remarks about an underage girl because of where he’s from and because he wasn’t sober. What is it? Are you mad because you were both raised by the same thing? Dogs?
don’t watch and don’t come on here playing outrage fake hero
Do you honestly think I care about this stupid show? My concern lies with the artist, and the artist only. I don’t care how this show turns out. I just want them to stop trying to groom this actress and market her to a grown audience of men when she’s barely an adult. Call it whatever you want. Every single time I see something nauseating, I’ll report it, make a Weibo post about it, and try to get her fan club’s attention in an attempt to get them to defend her. If you think it’s fake outrage, then continue thinking that!
don’t watch and don’t come on here playing outrage fake hero
Why don’t you ask me what course of action I’ve taken in an effort to help her, since I’m supposedly so outraged? You don’t know what I’ve done or whether I’m in a position to do any more than I’m already doing to defend her. I’m not a part of any artist’s fan club. However, whenever I need to get something done, I do what I can through Weibo and the official channels for filing reports. The fact of the matter is that 90% of y’all who know better are ignoring the clear signs of grooming and predatory behavior happening around this young actress, all for one reason. At least I’m speaking out. What are y’all, who decided to condemn me for saying something, doing? All y’all care about is when the next episode will air, not the weird things they’re doing and saying around her.
How did I become the villain for seeing things for what they are instead of endorsing them just because I want to giggle at yet another idol drama and not think about the actress’s well-being? None of the stuff they’re doing to her or the way they’re marketing her to the public is okay. It’s very weird, and I’ll keep talking about it.
What the director said is absolutely wrong. But he said the same words to Zhang Linghe and Zhao Jinmai on their…
asked if you were raised by a dog because you certainly seem like you were. There’s no language to watch. Brushing off and skipping past how weird it is that the person in charge of directing certain scenes between a 17-year-old and a 28-year-old said that, during filming, he felt the child and the adult were in a real relationship because he was drunk or because of where he’s from is exactly what a degenerate would say.
You shouldn’t have replied to me if you were going to disguise your comment as a defense of him. I wouldn’t think you were dumb if you didn’t speak. You were either raised by a dog or kicked in the head by a donkey!
don’t watch and don’t come on here playing outrage fake hero
Playing fake hero??? You don’t think it’s weird and wrong for the director of a show that cast a 17-year-old to play the love interest of a 28-year-old man? You don’t find it weird and predatory that he would make remarks about the two actors developing real feelings, despite one being a child while the other was an adult?
The industry and those around her are trying to groom her right before our eyes, and y’all are playing into it and won’t defend her against being wrongfully targeted. This is a child who’s about to become a victim if her fans don’t separate her from these predatory people. I don’t care about this stupid show. I care more about Ai Mi. She can have a successful career as a lead without being cast opposite men who are almost twice her age as romantic interests.
Where are the c-netizens with some sense? Is there nobody in her fan club who’s able to call out these directors and her company? I desperately need someone to help her out of this situation. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR HER. They’re grooming her and making vile, inappropriate comments about her, knowing she’s barely an adult. It’s really disgusting!
Aimi recorded this drama at SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD. She turned 18 just TWO DAYS AGO and the promotional team prepared…
I just dont understand how can her “FAN” hear and see stuff like that and don’t instantly want to call them out or are even a slight bit protective of her…..
Aimi recorded this drama at SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD. She turned 18 just TWO DAYS AGO and the promotional team prepared an event full of fanservice based on the romantic scenes. To make matters worse, the director says this KNOWING that she was underage and the actor was of legal age when they filmed. Outrageous.
We’re watching this girl be targeted by disgusting older men for grooming and nobody is doing anything to stop it.
Where are the c-netizens with some sense? Is there nobody in her fan club who’s able to call out these directors and her company? I desperately need someone to help her out of this situation. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR HER. They’re grooming her and making vile, inappropriate comments about her, knowing she’s barely an adult. It’s really disgusting!
TH entertainment…..Hell will only get hotter when it’s time to welcome the part of the company that manages her!
Aimi recorded this drama( key to phoenix heart) at SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD. She turned 18 just TWO DAYS AGO and the promotional team prepared an event full of fanservice based on the romantic scenes. To make matters worse, the director says something so off-putting about real feelings during the interaction KNOWING that she was underage and the actor was of legal age when they filmed. Outrageous.
Oh, yes, this world where women can just reproduce between themselves, with no involvement from men whatsoever.…
Yes, we are. If you disagree, that’s your opinion. A woman can do everything a man can, but a man CANNOT do even 80% of what a woman, much less a mother, can. But it’s so funny how, out of everything I said, that’s the only thing you decided to nitpick about.
The fact that this rapist still has a job is absolutely beyond me. There are so many talented actors and actresses who have been shelved due to ACTUAL false accusations or because the industry simply deemed them useless since they didn't have powerful connections. Yet here's this disgusting harbinger of hell landing acting gigs left and right. I wish him and his team nothing but the worst.
South Korea is such a funny country. They'll give you 10 years in prison for smoking a little weed, but if you rape someone so violently that they need over three months to recover from the assault and are left with lasting psychological trauma, you can still walk away scot-free. Because why did she let him into her house? (even though she had invited another friend as well.) If she didn't want to have sex with him, why was he invited there? And even if he admitted that she told him NO, he's still considered innocent because, according to the court, simply saying NO wasn't enough to constitute rape. She should've physically fought off a man twice her size and successfully escape. She laid down and took it then blame him for something she wanted. Somehow, it's all her fault. That's was their argument.......
I just love this world where women are constantly oppressed, yet without us, humanity wouldn't even exist. YAAAY to bloodclaat!
Of course "the story is being told from HER point of view" coz HL is a very loyal adaptation of the novel,…
Huh?????? Bruh, just stfu, because what are you even talking about? I have never come on here to make comments without watching a show first. I try my best to keep all of my opinions objective and free of bias. What freaking AvenueX?
Be as jarring and sarcastic as you want. I don't care to debate or argue with people who refuse to open their eyes to what is right in front of them. My point still stands, and those with eyes who are willing to see will see the truth. As soon as you disagree with me, you resort to jesting and alluding to the idea that I based my opinion on what some YouTuber said to make money.
If you like the show, that's fine. If, like me, you don't like the show, then you don't like it. I clearly stated the reasons behind my opinion. What's wrong with that? Was there a reason to add sarcasm simple because I share a different opinion about your beloved show?
Everything about this show has grooming undertones. The only reason I didn't outright word it that way is because the story is shown from her point of view, and it's presented as an unrequited crush from a young girl. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, but the show still raised several questions because of all the seemingly innocent scenes between the underage female lead and the adult male lead and how they decided to edit them in a "romantic" way.
I specifically mentioned that I wouldn't insinuate anything because the story is being told from her perspective. We were basically inside her head as opposed to his, so it was different. The only thing we could judge him by was his body language and facial expressions, which, in my opinion, were off-putting in far too many scenes. Even then, there's only so much that can be said because we don't actually know what he was thinking since he had no internal dialogue.
They supposedly intended to market the first few episodes as a one-sided, unrequited crush from a young girl. However, the way those scenes were filmed and edited absolutely did NOT come across that way. You kept saying, "It's her story. It's her story." Yes, it is. That still doesn't mean they needed to intentionally or unintentionally romanticize grooming and pedophilic undertones just to show that she was in love. She's gonna do and think whatever she wants as a child however it's not the same for him as a grown man!
I assure you, it wouldn't have been too late to show how deeply in love she was with him by limiting her being underage to a maximum of two or three episodes and then continuing the story once she was of legal age. They should have NEVER marketed scenes where she was underage and interacting with the adult male lead in a way that came across as romantic. THAT IS WEIRD, and it comes off as pedophilic and groomerish.
You absolutely CAN tell an age-gap story where one person fell in love with the other while they were underage WITHOUT making it weird. They only needed to portray those scenes as normal interactions. Why did they have to slow them down and add suggestive music to almost every interaction between them? The male lead's facial expressions were also off. He should have come across as a hero rescuing someone in distress or, at most, like an older brother looking out for a younger sister. Instead, his expressions didn't convey that at all. That's exactly why I kept saying there are valid questions to be raised about whether he ever had even the slightest inappropriate thoughts about her. Those feelings may have seemed innocent from his perspective, but to anyone watching, they could easily come across as weird and inappropriate. That's the issue I have with how those scenes were directed and presented.
Yes, it might seem like I'm creating scenarios that don't exist to fit a narrative, but too many coincidences aren't coincidences. At some point, a pattern is a pattern, when there are repeated choices in the writing, directing, editing, and cinematography that all point in the same direction, it's reasonable to question the intent and how those scenes are being presented.
This show was seemingly marketed toward teenagers and young women in their early twenties, and I can assure you the message it gave off was not a positive one even if you so desperately wanted it to be. I'm also in my early twenties, and all this show gave me were grooming and pedophilic undertones. That's the impression I walked away with after watching it.
Again, if you enjoyed it, good for you. Honestly, I love that for you. However, just because you liked something doesn't mean you should be so blinded that you're no longer able to objectively point out how weird and highly inappropriate some of it was without being sarcastic about it.
I genuinely cannot understand how people don't see or at least question how quickly they started dating after she became of legal age. Isn't it weird to you that he suddenly found her attractive enough to date and be MADLY in love with when, just a year or two earlier, he was calling her "kid" and had known her through several stages of her childhood?
I'm not a scriptwriter, an author, or a director. I'm just a viewer. And if I believe they're engaging in harmful marketing WHETHER INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY, TOWARD YOUNGER GIRLS AND WOMEN MY AGE, I WILL SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT. I don't care if no one else share my views!
This is such an interesting take!! Do you think this affects your personal opinion on the drama's overall quality?
To be honest, I can’t really think of the good ones off the top of my head right now, so I’m going to mix the great ones I can remember with some okay ones too. Some that I quite enjoyed were The Sword and the Brocade, Empresses in the Palace, Story of Yanxi Palace, and Princess Weiyoung.
For Korean dramas, rather than being scheming, I think the female leads in these can be considered smart and strong. The Red Sleeve, Mr. Sunshine, Empress Ki, Under the Queen’s Umbrella, Jewel in the Palace, The Tale of Lady Ok, Knight Flower, Dong Yi, and Queen Seondeok.
There are, of course, other great ones that I left out because I can’t remember them right now, but these are all really good. Be warned, though—some of these are older dramas, and they’re much longer. They can’t be judged by today’s standards.
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The only reason she didn’t have a relationship at 14 or 17 is because she was single-mindedly set on dating one person. Had that person confessed earlier, even while she was underage, the relationship would’ve started then. This is a drama marketed to young girls that has pedophilic undertones.
You can’t stop a child or anybody, for that matter from being sexually active btw. In my opinion, once you’re at an age where you’re able to FULLY understand sex, and SAFE sex at that, it should be okay for you to decide what kind of sexual activity you want to participate in. kids will hide and do it either way. The problem here lies with who the sexual partner is.
You said that she gets a love interest at 14 and 17, then at 19??? That in itself also sends a bad message about whether or not you should wait until you’re legal to date that older guy you’ve always liked instead of finding a companion amongst your peers..
Had he confessed to her while she was 14 or 17, she would’ve accepted him without hesitation because she was already romantically interested in him. The only thing preventing the relationship from happening earlier wasn’t her age it was the fact that he hadn’t confessed. That’s why I don’t think the drama conveys the message you’re suggesting.
Imagine being mad at me and thinking I’m commenting because I want the drama to fail, when in truth I couldn’t care less than I do right now about its success. Who gives a fuck? A young girl was subjected to inappropriate actions to film this either way. Why should I care if it succeed or fail? Now that you mentioned it….i sincerely do hope it fails, how about that?
I literally only see the discrepancies with the female lead’s agency and how they’re marketing her to older men. From the inappropriate comments made about her body, to the disgusting remarks made by the director, to her being cast in two romance dramas with men almost twice her age.
But yeah, I’m the bad guy for saying something about it.
The fact of the matter is that 90% of y’all who know better are ignoring the clear signs of grooming and predatory behavior happening around this young actress, all for one reason. At least I’m speaking out. What are y’all, who decided to condemn me for saying something, doing? All y’all care about is when the next episode will air, not the weird things they’re doing and saying around her.
How did I become the villain for seeing things for what they are instead of endorsing them just because I want to giggle at yet another idol drama and not think about the actress’s well-being? None of the stuff they’re doing to her or the way they’re marketing her to the public is okay. It’s very weird, and I’ll keep talking about it.
You shouldn’t have replied to me if you were going to disguise your comment as a defense of him. I wouldn’t think you were dumb if you didn’t speak. You were either raised by a dog or kicked in the head by a donkey!
The industry and those around her are trying to groom her right before our eyes, and y’all are playing into it and won’t defend her against being wrongfully targeted. This is a child who’s about to become a victim if her fans don’t separate her from these predatory people. I don’t care about this stupid show. I care more about Ai Mi. She can have a successful career as a lead without being cast opposite men who are almost twice her age as romantic interests.
Where are the c-netizens with some sense? Is there nobody in her fan club who’s able to call out these directors and her company? I desperately need someone to help her out of this situation. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR HER. They’re grooming her and making vile, inappropriate comments about her, knowing she’s barely an adult. It’s really disgusting!
We’re watching this girl be targeted by disgusting older men for grooming and nobody is doing anything to stop it.
Where are the c-netizens with some sense? Is there nobody in her fan club who’s able to call out these directors and her company? I desperately need someone to help her out of this situation. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR HER. They’re grooming her and making vile, inappropriate comments about her, knowing she’s barely an adult. It’s really disgusting!
TH entertainment…..Hell will only get hotter when it’s time to welcome the part of the company that manages her!
Aimi recorded this drama( key to phoenix heart) at SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD. She turned 18 just TWO DAYS AGO and the promotional team prepared an event full of fanservice based on the romantic scenes. To make matters worse, the director says something so off-putting about real feelings during the interaction KNOWING that she was underage and the actor was of legal age when they filmed. Outrageous.
South Korea is such a funny country. They'll give you 10 years in prison for smoking a little weed, but if you rape someone so violently that they need over three months to recover from the assault and are left with lasting psychological trauma, you can still walk away scot-free. Because why did she let him into her house? (even though she had invited another friend as well.) If she didn't want to have sex with him, why was he invited there? And even if he admitted that she told him NO, he's still considered innocent because, according to the court, simply saying NO wasn't enough to constitute rape. She should've physically fought off a man twice her size and successfully escape. She laid down and took it then blame him for something she wanted. Somehow, it's all her fault. That's was their argument.......
I just love this world where women are constantly oppressed, yet without us, humanity wouldn't even exist. YAAAY to bloodclaat!
Be as jarring and sarcastic as you want. I don't care to debate or argue with people who refuse to open their eyes to what is right in front of them. My point still stands, and those with eyes who are willing to see will see the truth. As soon as you disagree with me, you resort to jesting and alluding to the idea that I based my opinion on what some YouTuber said to make money.
If you like the show, that's fine. If, like me, you don't like the show, then you don't like it. I clearly stated the reasons behind my opinion. What's wrong with that? Was there a reason to add sarcasm simple because I share a different opinion about your beloved show?
Everything about this show has grooming undertones. The only reason I didn't outright word it that way is because the story is shown from her point of view, and it's presented as an unrequited crush from a young girl. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, but the show still raised several questions because of all the seemingly innocent scenes between the underage female lead and the adult male lead and how they decided to edit them in a "romantic" way.
I specifically mentioned that I wouldn't insinuate anything because the story is being told from her perspective. We were basically inside her head as opposed to his, so it was different. The only thing we could judge him by was his body language and facial expressions, which, in my opinion, were off-putting in far too many scenes. Even then, there's only so much that can be said because we don't actually know what he was thinking since he had no internal dialogue.
They supposedly intended to market the first few episodes as a one-sided, unrequited crush from a young girl. However, the way those scenes were filmed and edited absolutely did NOT come across that way. You kept saying, "It's her story. It's her story." Yes, it is. That still doesn't mean they needed to intentionally or unintentionally romanticize grooming and pedophilic undertones just to show that she was in love. She's gonna do and think whatever she wants as a child however it's not the same for him as a grown man!
I assure you, it wouldn't have been too late to show how deeply in love she was with him by limiting her being underage to a maximum of two or three episodes and then continuing the story once she was of legal age. They should have NEVER marketed scenes where she was underage and interacting with the adult male lead in a way that came across as romantic. THAT IS WEIRD, and it comes off as pedophilic and groomerish.
You absolutely CAN tell an age-gap story where one person fell in love with the other while they were underage WITHOUT making it weird. They only needed to portray those scenes as normal interactions. Why did they have to slow them down and add suggestive music to almost every interaction between them? The male lead's facial expressions were also off. He should have come across as a hero rescuing someone in distress or, at most, like an older brother looking out for a younger sister. Instead, his expressions didn't convey that at all. That's exactly why I kept saying there are valid questions to be raised about whether he ever had even the slightest inappropriate thoughts about her. Those feelings may have seemed innocent from his perspective, but to anyone watching, they could easily come across as weird and inappropriate. That's the issue I have with how those scenes were directed and presented.
Yes, it might seem like I'm creating scenarios that don't exist to fit a narrative, but too many coincidences aren't coincidences. At some point, a pattern is a pattern, when there are repeated choices in the writing, directing, editing, and cinematography that all point in the same direction, it's reasonable to question the intent and how those scenes are being presented.
This show was seemingly marketed toward teenagers and young women in their early twenties, and I can assure you the message it gave off was not a positive one even if you so desperately wanted it to be. I'm also in my early twenties, and all this show gave me were grooming and pedophilic undertones. That's the impression I walked away with after watching it.
Again, if you enjoyed it, good for you. Honestly, I love that for you. However, just because you liked something doesn't mean you should be so blinded that you're no longer able to objectively point out how weird and highly inappropriate some of it was without being sarcastic about it.
I genuinely cannot understand how people don't see or at least question how quickly they started dating after she became of legal age. Isn't it weird to you that he suddenly found her attractive enough to date and be MADLY in love with when, just a year or two earlier, he was calling her "kid" and had known her through several stages of her childhood?
I'm not a scriptwriter, an author, or a director. I'm just a viewer. And if I believe they're engaging in harmful marketing WHETHER INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY, TOWARD YOUNGER GIRLS AND WOMEN MY AGE, I WILL SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT. I don't care if no one else share my views!
I'm through with you and this conversation.
For Korean dramas, rather than being scheming, I think the female leads in these can be considered smart and strong. The Red Sleeve, Mr. Sunshine, Empress Ki, Under the Queen’s Umbrella, Jewel in the Palace, The Tale of Lady Ok, Knight Flower, Dong Yi, and Queen Seondeok.
There are, of course, other great ones that I left out because I can’t remember them right now, but these are all really good. Be warned, though—some of these are older dramas, and they’re much longer. They can’t be judged by today’s standards.