My goodness! When will they start talking to and confiding in each other’s their? I’ve had my fill of half truths, lies and omissions. They are preparing to spend their lives together, yet they can’t be honest with each other? Smh.
I hope the 5th sister arc ends in 2-3 episodes and they dedicate 1-2 episodes for Qiang Nu. I'm starting to wince…
Yes, it’s too much and has been going on for too long. If the tables were turned, everyone would be crying spousal abuse. So why is it acceptable if it’s the wife doing the beating?
Everyone should give him credit for being a gentleman. He’s stronger than her and could hit her back to defend himself. But he never does. Already demonstrating his good breeding.
This beating is quite distasteful. And Kangning maliciousness has got to stop. She just earned herself a place as my least favorite sister. And 2nd sister climbed up to be one of my favorites with her forgiving, level headed attitude. Don’t they realize 4th sister would have been raped without his intervention and adopted sister very likely killed? Did they need their mother to remind them of that fact? Making him hold a scalding cup for so long indeed! I like pranks as well as the next person, but only when it doesn’t result in injury or harm to another person. These scenes made my blood boil.
Congrats LS, she's my girl ! I have seen so many angsty chinese stories with mother-in-laws and servants bullying…
I think YX already fell for her. Else he wouldn't try so hard to kidnap her to make her his wife. I saw the way he looked at her during the kidnapping incidents when she was crying. It wouldn't surprise me if he fell for her then. But the point of the marriage is to make her fall in love with him since she doesn't care for him in any way.
the 2FL is a really beautiful , nice and kind character who fits perfect this town though . even if she was my…
2FL is the typical S. Korean female so it's no wonder she will get approval from majority of the K-drama watching audience. FL is atypical, more American in her behavior than Korean to be honest. Which is why she appeals to viewers like me. Her honesty and candor are refreshing. Her intolerance for bullshit and the way she calls it out is unique. Her mood swings are realistic, her flaws make her human and her pain is raw and visceral. This is what makes her such a refreshing character. So glad that Kdramas are offering up a new perspective instead of the typical cookie cutter melodrama or romcom.
It's far from perfect but I don't understand the low rating. I'm finding myself watching this over Love Scout.
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Again, this is your opinion. So why is your opinion more important than @Ritt's. I happen to agree with @Ritt's opinion and so many other viewers do. I don't believe the script was written badly. The female lead is complex and real and surprisingly very well turned out considering she watched the death of her mother and younger brother, had to harbor the town's hatred and ill treatment from a very tender age, and all the other problems she had to shoulder from so young.
The ratings are indeed quite low for this gem. It may not resonate with you, but there are many who like it for what it is, which begs the question why you are still watching if you consider the drama so poorly?
Depression or PTSD whatever it is, we need support. I read a lot of or may be 100's of medical articles when my…
Which is why he's seeing a psychiatrist. The drama even acknowledges that. Nor did the doctor promise him any quick fixes, but said that he believed in Li Zan's ability to recover. So I don't believe the drama is glossing over it or treating it lightly. I was glad to see that Song Ran herself is also seeing a psychiatrist and taking medication for her condition. It's much better than dramas that show all the patient needs is love. This drama is going through a realistic route. Li Zan is still having issues even when beginning treatment, so I don't believe the plot is rushed at all.
Yes. But like you said, it's IRL logic. Drama are made purely for entertainment. Their are illogical on their…
Your response confirms my point. He would not have had to step in, if she had handled it confidently instead of staring and looking blindsided, the way she was expected to handle awkward social situations in her role as the CEO of her company. He correctly read the room and saw she was overwhelmed and intimidated and needed to step in to diffuse the tension in the room. An action, if you look at it another way, also undermines her authority as his boss. Because which boss would have to hide behind the back of her subordinate? It shows everyone in the room that she was incapable of handling the situation.
As we are different people, your perspective of the scene may be vastly different from mine. I understand that people can interpret different things from the same scene.
Yes. But like you said, it's IRL logic. Drama are made purely for entertainment. Their are illogical on their…
It's fine to turn off our brains because of entertainment, I do it all the time. But I question the cliché why a woman always has to be rescued by a man. Even when she is smart, efficient, and strong at the beginning of the drama, she almost always ends up a 'damsel in distress' regardless of gender equality or even role reversals (such as this drama where the CEO is the woman and the secretary is a working dude). I'm questioning why it is even necessary. Would the show be less palatable to a certain segment of the population if they made her smart, capable and competent all the way through? The only drama (Chinese or Korean) I've ever seen the woman rescue herself after falling into trouble is Flourished Peony, all the other times, the writing has to prove that she is vulnerable by relying on the man. Why can't they write women stand up for themselves, tell their overbearing Chairmen to go f*ck themselves, instead of standing like a deer in headlight all intimidated by a bully? I can switch my brain off with the best of them, but these are questions that bear asking.
Lovers of the show will probably crucify me for saying this, but I detest scenes where the FL needs to be rescued by the ML and have serious problems with how unrealistic the ending scene of episode 8 is. You do not get to be a CEO without understanding how NOT to antagonize your investors. A certain level of social skills and emotional intelligence is required to play things that off as a joke and smooth over awkward social situations, to enable your investors ‘save face’. although dealing with them privately is another matter.
To show a CEO needing to hide behind her secretary’s back because she’s a woman who can’t handle a recalcitrant major investor really rubs me the wrong way. The scene could have played up CEO’s Kang skills and made her be the competent professional she truly is, without resorting to unnecessary cliches like that. If she’s savvy enough to hold tough negotiations as she has been doing since episode 1, then, she should be savvy enough to turn around social situations to her advantage, especially when she practically suspected that the Chairman would have something up his sleeve. Being in love should not make her dumb.
in real life you would just call someone like she a crazy b, and run away
If she's "f*cking "his brain all the time, he willing places himself in the vicinity to let that happen to him. Don't play the goody two shoes. It takes two to tango. If she steam rolls, then he allows himself to be steam rolled by her. If he didn't want it, he wouldn't let her treat him that way.
By the way are you ignoring scenes where he stands up for himself? You're making it seem as if he has no agency in what happens to him, which is far from the case. He's an adult man, not a child.
in real life you would just call someone like she a crazy b, and run away
No. In real life you will emphasize with her, give her a listening ear, and make friends with her. You guys are making her out to be armed and crazy, which is far from the truth. She is nice to people who treat her well.
She’s a good boss and treats the constriction crew and her boss very well.
She treats her friends very well.
She’s only mean to ML because she’s frustrated with him. Angry with her dad because of what he did to her mother and brother. Hates the ML mother with good reason. And treats the townspeople with disdain because of how they treated her in the past.
Ask yourself, if you were in her shoes how would you have behaved? She even gives compliments to her dad’s employees. So why make her out to be an ogre?
I understand the FL's trauma, it's just badly written. It shouldn't take 6 episodes to finally get a glimpse of…
Yes. I agree. The writing doesn’t portray her sympathetically, that’s for sure. Either that or majority of the viewers here just can’t sympathize with women. If the tables were turned and the male lead was the one with issues, would there be such an uproar? Male lead is indecisive, very far from perfect. He wants the FL but still wants to hang on to his family, knowing fully well that events transpired to make FL dislike his mom. And he just expects her to ‘forget it’ and not let it trouble her. It’s only in this past episode, that the weight of what the FL’s been carrying has begun to sink in. The fact that her brother died, her mother almost died, her father constantly putting everyone’s needs above his own family, her mother’s consequent abandonment, his grandfather’s disapproval of them when they thought he was supportive, bullying from the townspeople. Hopefully these favors will weigh in his decision-making as they’ve been going back and forth enough.
FL has many good qualities, a lot of these commenters don’t give her enough credit for. She’s vulnerable, tough but fair. She’s a good head on her shoulders, blunt, fiercely independent and honest to a fault. She’s nice to those who treat her well and mean to those who are mean to her. If she were an American character, we would admire her, cause we meet people like her every day. But because she’s a character in a kdrama, where most people expect the FL to be pseudo passive, sweet and a pushover, she’s labeled toxic and called all manner of names. Viewers that label her so harshly and judge her so poorly are forgetting that she’s half Korean. The other part of her will not sit back and watch people treat her unkindly without putting up a fight and calling them out for it.
And that’s why the FL and the drama are so refreshing ! So glad they are moving past stereotypes and showing us some thing new and different.
This made me see things from both perspectives because i was gonna drop after feeling bad for the dad, thank you…
He permits it because he does NOTHING to defend her. Either as a child or an adult. I understand why her mother left, I would too, if I had a husband who I couldn’t count on to be there for me when I was losing my son. And he didn’t even seem remorseful. Plus he’s still hanging out with Yeon Soo’s mom who badmouths his daughter any chance he gets. What kind of a man is he? I don’t feel sorry for him at all.
she wants him as her boyfriend, husband, but he didn't want to go to Seoul with her, and he sits by his worthless…
Yes, after the conversation with his grandfather who “supported” them, she realized that the grandfather didn’t really want his grandson to have a future with someone like her. So she pushed him away. Must have hurt like hell to realize that your one support system secretly disapproved of you. Good enough for a best friend, but not good enough for a wife/lover. I’m so glad he threw the ring away.
Everyone should give him credit for being a gentleman. He’s stronger than her and could hit her back to defend himself. But he never does. Already demonstrating his good breeding.
This beating is quite distasteful. And Kangning maliciousness has got to stop. She just earned herself a place as my least favorite sister. And 2nd sister climbed up to be one of my favorites with her forgiving, level headed attitude. Don’t they realize 4th sister would have been raped without his intervention and adopted sister very likely killed? Did they need their mother to remind them of that fact? Making him hold a scalding cup for so long indeed! I like pranks as well as the next person, but only when it doesn’t result in injury or harm to another person. These scenes made my blood boil.
Again, this is your opinion. So why is your opinion more important than @Ritt's. I happen to agree with @Ritt's opinion and so many other viewers do. I don't believe the script was written badly. The female lead is complex and real and surprisingly very well turned out considering she watched the death of her mother and younger brother, had to harbor the town's hatred and ill treatment from a very tender age, and all the other problems she had to shoulder from so young.
The ratings are indeed quite low for this gem. It may not resonate with you, but there are many who like it for what it is, which begs the question why you are still watching if you consider the drama so poorly?
As we are different people, your perspective of the scene may be vastly different from mine. I understand that people can interpret different things from the same scene.
To show a CEO needing to hide behind her secretary’s back because she’s a woman who can’t handle a recalcitrant major investor really rubs me the wrong way. The scene could have played up CEO’s Kang skills and made her be the competent professional she truly is, without resorting to unnecessary cliches like that. If she’s savvy enough to hold tough negotiations as she has been doing since episode 1, then, she should be savvy enough to turn around social situations to her advantage, especially when she practically suspected that the Chairman would have something up his sleeve. Being in love should not make her dumb.
By the way are you ignoring scenes where he stands up for himself? You're making it seem as if he has no agency in what happens to him, which is far from the case. He's an adult man, not a child.
She’s a good boss and treats the constriction crew and her boss very well.
She treats her friends very well.
She’s only mean to ML because she’s frustrated with him. Angry with her dad because of what he did to her mother and brother. Hates the ML mother with good reason. And treats the townspeople with disdain because of how they treated her in the past.
Ask yourself, if you were in her shoes how would you have behaved? She even gives compliments to her dad’s employees. So why make her out to be an ogre?
FL has many good qualities, a lot of these commenters don’t give her enough credit for. She’s vulnerable, tough but fair. She’s a good head on her shoulders, blunt, fiercely independent and honest to a fault. She’s nice to those who treat her well and mean to those who are mean to her. If she were an American character, we would admire her, cause we meet people like her every day. But because she’s a character in a kdrama, where most people expect the FL to be pseudo passive, sweet and a pushover, she’s labeled toxic and called all manner of names. Viewers that label her so harshly and judge her so poorly are forgetting that she’s half Korean. The other part of her will not sit back and watch people treat her unkindly without putting up a fight and calling them out for it.
And that’s why the FL and the drama are so refreshing ! So glad they are moving past stereotypes and showing us some thing new and different.