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You can't fall beautifully from a small cliff lol. I think falling into the water is a code word for 'lets meet new peopleto push the plot forward' everywhere;)

Me too:) Normally, I find such obvious product placement annoying. But I can't help but laugh every time those accomplished jianghu heroes and villains have full-on serious conversations about the nutritional value of nuts:) it's so ridiculous it's actually adorable.

LOL falling off cliffs seems like a recreational activity in c-dramaland... Like does anyone ever hit the ground? I've yet to see that. In other genres people go dancing for fun, but whatever...;)

At the rate they're going it's gonna be a three-people job soon;) I can't believe they dropped 2 special eps yesterday.. I have one of those weird memories where I remember the wording of the original lines, so I'm pretty much playing spot the difference with the subs on yt now:D I'm just gonna wait until after may 5...hope they'll be done by then.

Oh my, I just finished and can't find
the words to express what an absolute treasure this show is. The last episodes were such a rollercoaster of emotions, from crying my eyes out, to laughing like a lunatic and everything in between... I feel like giving standing ovation to Yin Zheng, cause his performance elevated this series to a masterpiece level for me... Next stop, the book! I haven't had my fill of those two yet:)

OK, I can't stop rewatching that new scene in ep 12... I've almost been down the mountain and now I've lost the path again! Like, when did we finish this? 3 weeks ago?! LOL

Anyway, did you notice that youku's post post post production spreads to the subtitles as well? They're everchanging:D I'm glad they fixed that weird line about 'experiencing mixed crowd' for 'complicated world'. But why did they change 'putting down sword' for killing tools? It just sounds so weird to me and makes me see Thor's hammer for some reason:)
And what do you think about that new line from WKX？ （Besides being handsome obviously/除了一目了然的好看）I think it changes the tone of the conversation a little, but otoh ZZS's reply of 'silly ' makes much more sense. Are they planning to make a contest in the end asking fans to vote for their fav version?

Thx, it's how I'm gonna imagine that fall from now on;) Maybe the shot just looked bad. Compared to what got aired, it doesn't seem like sth that would need to be censored.

I just watched the trailer and this looks like high-budget and intense story. I hope it does get to air. ...and there were actual wolves! Not a group of adorable puffballs with lolling tongues like in the Sound of Desert or that scary spirit dog Fairy in the Untamed:D

Thank you! Funny to see the director getting all excited with ZZH's suggestions;)

Me too, I'd definitely watch his debut:) I need to catch up with watching bts, cause I feel like I'm missing a lot. BTW are there any bts/leaked vids on the landing scene when they fall off that bridge on the way to longyuan cabinet? Cause I think that's one scene that is sort of obviously missing from the show...

Love this! I wonder... Did they just add/dub it now, cause fans liked it so much? or did they mess up with the Taiwanese version and did damage control with the special ep on yt?:D In any case, there's still 2 weeks left, so I'm hoping for more.

Ps;) So true! I can't find that vid now... but I loved how it was ZZH who told GJ to hide them slightly behind the fan and how he should move his head, when WKX tells what he saw when he was drugged. And it fits both dialogue versions so well. With the mama story, it's endearing how it suggests WKX gonna tell something scandalous, but he goes with childish. And with the other story ...it fits well too;)

Noooo I don't think GJ even knows what subtlety is, let alone how to portray it;) And ZZH's WKX would lack that child-like exuberance and innocence that is all GJ. The producer's instincts were spot-on on the casting. I can't imagine anyone else in these roles.

It's all true what you said. But personally I can't easily untie this show from the context of it being a danmei adaptation, coming right in the middle of this BL craziness, and how heavily it hints at the romantic nature of their relationship in what's shown on screen, implied, or used for the marketing efforts. Is anyone advertising it as your next great national epic? I focus more on the main couple simply because it's the part that imo was done very well. I have some beef with the background plot. I don't like how it was resolved so I focus on the part I liked.

SPOILER ALERT............

As for 知己 and the dying part. For you it may be all standard wuxia but please don't blame international viewers when our brains go straight to Romeo and Juliet:) Cause that's the only origin for this trope for me. And since it was rather blatantly done for dramatics and doesn't add much to the plot, then the next logical thought is ...romance;)

Umm, why would you think WKX died? I mean practically everything YBY says sort of proves he won't... He heavily hints a few times that he lived so long just so he could help them. He also clearly states he 'won't allow' anyone to die before him and will give WKX his cultivation power. Not to mention he basically smiles when he tells WKX about the 'sacrifice' needed. Honestly, how likely is it that YBY who lived alone for so long would sentence Zhishu to that same lonely fate?! It's not like he didn't have a front row seat to their blossoming love;) There are illogical plot falls in the story but I thought psychological credibility was handled well.

BTW did you know that what we hear is not what the actors really said? Here's what they supposedly really say at the end, according to lip reading netizens;) https://twitter.com/xiaomilu__/status/1376693596137611265?s=21

Same here:) I got totally seduced by this series, but really wish they didn't go with the suspence and dramatics at the expense of plot coherence there. That patchwork narrative, with key events explained later or shown through flashbacks, really disrupted the pacing and the emotional flow of the story for me. Still irks me that we didn't get a proper goodbye scene for YBY. That rushed 1min flashback was so underwhelming...

Lol, so true. Maybe they just released it too quickly? I thought this series had a rather tight plot for the first 20+ eps, still confused how it got so messy by the end. I think the no of episodes is fine, it's the editing that's the problem. How come our favourite pair of creepy villains gets to talk for 8min straight on screen, but we never see many plot-crucial scenes, like those between Zishu and his old friends?!

I didn't have that with WOH cause I just wanted to catch up with everyone, open those spoiler comments and be able to use social media again:D But I've been watching Winter Begonia at the same time and now I'm getting anxiety every time I'm about to click that 'next episode' button, cause there are so few left!! And I sooo don't want it to be over. I don't know if I should feel blessed or cursed to get emotionally blown over twice in one month;)

Not sure what's your definition of BL, but yes, this is obviously a love story - from attraction and flirting early on, to the deepest of bonds by the end. First time I watched it, I got tunnel vision for those two and couldn't care less about the rest of the plot;) As Saffy88 wrote, there's lots of relationship stuff both shown and implied in the subtext, reminiscent of oldschool historical romances, with some explicit lines spoken by the actors and then not very carefully overdubbed. The one similarity with TU I can see are the BAMF moments when one of them arrives in the nick of time to save the other... There are lots of those in WOH;)

Making your own stuff is fun:) I just noticed that custom embroidery costs the same as print, so I'm gonna go with that. It's got to be simpler so I'll have a fan and A-xu's bottle maybe... Still thinking on the details.

That's so harsh lol. I'm sure GJ is working very hard to give everyone an unforgettable audial experience;) I totally fail at fangirling. I'd rather go to 3 different concerts for that money.