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Thank you for contributing to my early age baldness XDD

Luo Hou Ji Du is the most pitiful one after all, my heart broke for him, btw did anyone see how he looked at Sifeng, he was in loooove, poor guy.

p.s. if I hear one more person screaming "Sifeng!!!!", I'll be bald from pulling my hair out.

First paragraph of the synopsis was enough eye rolling already;
"Mu Jue Chen is the young master of the Qian Mu Mountain Pavilion. Dashingly handsome, exceptionally clever, and also a skilled martial artist, he is beloved by his subjects."
Can't imagine the drama itself, XD, I'll give it a shot, thanks a lot <3

This is fun and fluffy, after all the angst( Love and Redemption + Secret Forest 2) I needed something like this, hopefully it will stay as so.
Right now I need cotton candy and rainbows in my life, I would appreciate any recommendation with real comedy in it ( for example, Zombie detective is right up my humor cord)

First of all this drama has lots of layers which made me fall in love with it just because I mention the biggest flaws of main characters doesn't mean that I have a superficial appreciation of it but each to it's own I guess.
Also the main reason I think righteous sects and Hao Chen are evil, especially the latter, has nothing to do with the main leads' relationship at all. They all claim to be righteous but they never act what they preach;
For example we've seen how straight Fuyu Island sect's leader righteousness was, he was all lenient towards his wife but when it came to an innocent person(in this case Sifeng) who actually protected the island whilst invasion, he was the first one to throw rocks at him to find a scapegoat.
We've also seen how those cultivators went after Wu Tong mercilessly, driving him to a corner, despite his faults his punishment was beyond severe. Those cultivators also pointed fingers at Linglong for being a victim of kidnapping and potentially abuse.
After receiving help from demons on multiple occasions people from Shaoyang and other sects were still prejudiced against demons, even towards their saviors for the sole reason of their race, entity being demon. By mentioning this I have no intention to connect it to the any sort of activism like you'd like to believe.

"As for the the subtle attempts to connect this to popular modern activism, I consider it disingenuous and laughable."

It is common to see Demons vs Mortals/Deities, demons always getting the short end of the stick, Ashes of Love has a good reversal insight about this subject just like this drama which makes me happy to see. That what I was getting at.
But of course it isn't hard to extrapolate to the real world as people always ostracize those different which can apply to the any aspect of our lives not just racism.

When we come to the Hao Chen, he kept saying how he was doing everything for 3 realms despite the warnings from other deities, it was evident that deities were in fact aware Hao Chen's policy was far from ideal or righteous at all yet they still obeyed him, for which I believe that all of the deities that kept hush or colluded with Hao Chen should also bear the blame.
Hao Chen constantly lied, manipulated, domineered every single being around him, he paid friendship with enmity and betrayal. He would never listen to the voice of reason, even the heavenly emperor condemned him as of episode 56 he is yet to ever say even sorry, he has no concept of guilt and he twists every thing to fit his own agenda to feed that self justification.
At least that's how I see them.
You might have a different opinion than me which is totally fine but again it also okay for me to take whatever I want from this drama. Nothing is black and white, those righteous sects weren't all good and not all demons were blood thirsty monsters, heaven wasn't always fair and faultless, people could show one face and be something totally different inside, these are the main points that stuck with me from this drama.

P.s. I never said that Xuanji from other life times were all rainbows and cotton candy but as of her latest reincarnation her denseness due lack of 6 senses was her main characteristic which is why that is the only thing I mentioned about her. My critique was about Hao Chen and righteous sects as their hypocrisy outshined most of the things on this show.

P.s.s When it comes to calling names and swearing at a fictional character, calling me vulgar , that is what's actually laughable, I find that character hateful and have no pity for him, hence I call him names what is so wrong with it. It's not a real person, don't be so serious about it.

I adore this drama but if I have to be honest Sifeng is a masochist, Xuanji is irrecoverably dense(she has a reason for that but still it is what it is), righteous sects are drowning in arrogance to the point of being pure evil but the real highlight lies with Hao Chen( aka Ho*e C*unt), he has to be the most self justified evil ever, he is evil through and through, how can he stay in heaven without any retribution is beyond me, heaven often forsakes good people but at this point I don't even know if heaven is really heaven and not hell, their cruelty is unfathomable and I guess that's what I really love about this drama.
Heaven and those righteous sects are two faced, unreasonable and this drama constantly sheds light upon that, also the blatant racism towards devils and demons is so well played, it is so real that I can't even get angry, it's just sad at this point.
This drama deserves to be watched at least couple of times but I don't have the will to stand those racist righteous sects and disgusting hao chen all over again.

Live ( not just the official releases but the usage of the already existing great songs such as "Carry Me" and "In your light" made this drama even more special )
Reply Trilogy (just like live it's clever way of incorporating the existing songs was an art in itself, made me start to listen old korean songs)
Rebel: Thief who stole the people ( Spring in Ikhwari is such a powerful song that it's hard to explain and imo the whole album is pure art )
Hana Yori Dango ( planetarium is just so good, cloudy noon is strait up perfection and main theme is just magic)
Coffee Prince ( That La La La part is forever stuck in my brain, "go go chan" stil makes me all giddy and happy, sea trip, "polly" it makes me hum right away )
Full House ( "I think I love you" this song itself is such a cult)
Chicago Typewriter ( first 20 seconds of "writing our stories" is so raw and beautiful)
Hotel Del Luna ( "Done for me" takes me right back into the drama)
Nobunaga Concerto (it's main theme is so uplifting and heartbreaking at the same time that it is one of those pieces that stays with just like "Cloudy Noon")
Princess Hours ( Parrot, I'm a Fool, "Ice Pond" I want to be able to play the violin just for this song, Perhaps Love, Opening song and my all time favorite " A Dancing Teddy")
Signal (The Road, The one who has to leave(2nd ost), "Happy Person" ugh this one breaks my heart)
Someday or One Day ("Last Dance" from Wu Bai just tears me apart, this drama was just so good and this music fit it like a glove, "Someday or One Day" from Shi Shi takes me to places I've never been and I just can't forget it)

I think I can write pages and pages about my favorite OSTs, for me music is the most essential part of a movie/drama, even with mediocre acting and directing if the music score is really good it propels me to watch the whole thing.
But the opposite is also true as sometimes really good acting can give life to a song making me listen to it for that particular emotion sprung from that crucial scene.
All in all it comes down to how well matched they are as even if the every aspect of a production is great and the music is good separately if they don't make sense together it can ruin the whole experience.

he is totally the damsel in distress in this series XD I'm in ep 30 but dang so far he went through a lot for a girl and I never say that for male leads, ever.

I agree with your first point, imo she is an all-rounder but her mindset about stealing someone else's bf is not cute at all. Also Daehyun is blatantly cheating at this point, he accepts her flirting openly while blabbering bs such as "you are my first priority" to YeonJoo.

Daehyun is such a field player, as a human being he is sorta decent but he ain't no bf/husband material, Yeonju might be annoying but still I can't ship him with SaetByul at all since I find cheaters disgusting.

that's why this show is so good, the topics they're dealing with are fictitious yet so real at the same time, they're pulling just the right strings with this one.

whaaat, and here I was thinking how well edited their scenes were

ikr, it's hard to come by a crime drama where at least one of the main lead isn't a token character, both of them are so competent that I'm getting emotional. This drama is so on point. I love, love it.

If you are referring to the webtoon artist then there are many sexist and other problematic stuff about him and that is true for almost every character on this show which is why it is so good, it's not glorified, it's not okay and as a viewer we can see that.
At the end of the day if it's really offending to you then really you have all the right to feel so but for me these problematic parts didn't come as offensive since the heroine is a character who is judged at face value and so far I'm willing to see the whole show as something more.

p.s. in reality sexism and racism are huge problems of our daily lives and if anything that webtoon guy was the personification of both . From this point of view the drama is actually doing really good at portraying them.

What the hell is wrong with this comment section, this drama is so funny.
Both of the leads are hella weird but that's about it, I really like the cartoony style and the humor is on point.

I'm aware of your sarcastic remark with the usage of the word "dear" hence I addressed it, as I refuse to attach such a word to GJC, it wasn't a sentiment I feel which your words made it seem like I deem GJC as someone dear.
Also I clearly made my stance on how and at which points I find GJC as someone pitiful which has no connotation to KSH's faults at all. I analyzed all of the characters separately and since the original post that I replied was about KSH and Sabin's relationship----
"I'm happy he didn't get the girl. I don't wish a SB to my worst enemy, that's how bad she is. She doesn't deserve him, she deserves a stalker and a killer and she got one. I Wish them happiness, hopefully he won't fall for other and will need a heart or otherwise, poor Sabin."
I made my remarks on KSH's faults as he wasn't that much of a catch in my opinion.

"Sabin was a distasteful character but Kim Soo Hyuk was an awful one despite his redemption at the end."
He became a good person by the end but that doesn't annul his faults that he has to atone in his life time.

Like I said countless times, as a prosecutor he was "awful", his moral compass was faulty and if not for CHB's memories it's hard to say that he would mend his ways in this life time. Whether I call him bad, awful, evil or whatever it is just a word that I used to imply that his behaviors were unacceptable and needed to be corrected.
Which is also true for JB as I mentioned before.
Both of the characters become good/normal human beings after they got their memories from the past.
At this point I don't understand even what ticks you off with my post.
p.s. You really should look up what a hate speech is, for reference, calling someone awful for the awful deeds they've done ain't one of it.

I'm not an awful person because I said that KSY as a character was an awful one, he fabricated evidence to put people behind bars because of his "belief" and until his memories got one with Cha Hyung Bin, he didn't even shown any remorse for what he has done. Let's not forget he shot someone with the purpose of killing him.
And please tell me what exactly I don't know about a fictional character in a 16 episodes long drama that you do.
p.s. Where did I even mention GJC as someone dear, he was pitiful for the abuse that he went through and getting all the blame instead of Goo In Woo but I never excused his crimes nor behaviors.

When his two personas got one with each other his choices weren't dubious nor hurtful to anyone, he chose to take his revenge in a lawful way so his final version was a good human being. But that being said I don't think GJC was that much of a horrible person either, he was f*cked up and deserved to be punished by law but he was more close to a mentally ill person than a horrible one.
p.s. Cha Hyung Bin + Kim Soo Hyuk combination was also a good person at the end as he also found a way to redeem himself.

I think this had one of the best portrayals of stalking and how bad it is. She reprimanded him and he actually back tracked after that. His behavior was never excused nor shown as something romantic.
Their love triangle was toxic though that I can't deny.

Sabin was a distasteful character but Kim Soo Hyuk was an awful one despite his redemption at the end.
p.s. Gong Ji Chul was such a pitiful character though, Jung Bom wasn't but since they became one with their past the last version of him was a good person after all.