I think it's easy to not appear ''boring' when you're the secondary couple in a series and you only have 5 mins…
You wouldn't think it's possible for sure. I think maybe Pharm was a three on the interest scale to Dean's Zero, whereas Win & Team are both 1s, so the combined scores are three vs two.
Another thing is that secondary couples often don't follow the strict seme-uke model which allows them to be more interesting - but they do have to conform when they are "promoted" to main couple, which sticks them in an extremely overused and intensely boring pattern.
You always love rivals. Thats not new for me now. Yes the show is bit bnonker, but it does it job to fit the description…
Thi is much less useless and incompetent than most ukes, which is nice - I often don't find an uke to be a real person, just a plot device or the author's projection of herself into the story where she can imagine herself with a fantasy man, like in Lovely Writer, where Gene barely existed as a person.
My only real criticism is the pace. While it's diminished lately, the endless scenes where Noey would ask Thi to do something and Thi would just stand there doing nothing sometimes literally for 5 minutes was making me feel like dropping this, and it could use faster pacing in general to give it more manic energy. That's why sometimes Bom seems like he's a bit weak - he's acting OTT in an otherwise low-energy scene. If this show had more of the energy of Secret Crush On You it would be better.
But it's still a good series and my second-favorite airing right now (after My School President).
Lack of sweaty or non sweaty monkey sex aside, it looked like the man that killed Dong Baek was Dennis. Now it's…
Because he was ordered to by Yu Dam's father. I suspect he's suffering from a curse because of that. Also, he may not remember his past life, so it doesn't have any impact on how he feels in this one, although that doesn't seem to be how BL works.
Yea I need a clarification on their ages. My best guess tho is that Noey and his friends got held back a few grades…
So "Freshman" is a mistranslation. In the US, there are 6 primary school grades, two junior high grades, and 4 high school. (That can occassionally bee blurred, like three junior and three senior or five primary and three junior)
First grade is usually entered at age six. You are called different things per year in high school:
So you can see how this can be confusing because "junior" and "senior" are commonly used in subtitles to indicate relative age to each other. In this case, Freshman is a specific word that was used, and it seems to be wrong. Worse, these names can also be used for the four years of university, especially "Freshman".
In English, "he's my senior" isn't a phrase you'd hear - but it makes you think the speaker is referring to someone is in the fourth year of high school (or college). Relative age difference is much less important in most Western societies - while in school people in higher years have more status, you don't have to obey them like they do in Thai dramas. They have no authority over you at all and are likely to be punished if they try to exert any, which would be bullying.
it is not you alone, I do too, also the change in EP8 was sudden and huge, I feel he is just pretending with him…
But they did have Noey reflecting after Pam rejected him, and he realized that it was really Thi he liked, and Noey has clearly had a fascination for Thi since the beginning. I don't think it's that sudden. I am usually really bothered when I think characters behave not within their character but rather for what the plot needs, and I don't get that vibe here - in fact I didn't even consider how large the change is until you mentioned it because it feels "earned".
I don't really see any mistreatment, except insofar as Noey has some insecurities and fears about how people perceive him. He does pressure Thi to do things, but never overtly or intentionally against his interests - and I think sometimes you need people around you that will push you out of your comfort zone for you to develop as a person. He has never physically hurt Thi (except through negligence), although he has exposed him to danger - which he doesn't likely see as it's normal for him.
That's the point - these are really different people that see the world completely differently, and the comedy and drama come from that and how it draws them to each other.
I know you're not complaining, but I don't get people's objections - what do they want? For Thi to spend all day with people like himself? Then we could watch people studying and reading, or foolling around on their computer. Wouldn't that be gripping?
It's kind of like asking, "Why didn't Hamlet just kill Claudius right away?" The answer is "because then there would be no play."
I know many people will disagree with me, but I don't particularly like Noey as a character. If I were in Thi's…
But that's you - some people like the results of being pulled out of their comfort zone, even if they're scared to. Sometimes you need to leave your comfort zone in order to grow and learn. I'm more like you, for sure, but when people make me do things I wouldn't normally, I usually get something from it.
Also, this is a comedy, so if nothing happens except people sitting around studying and doing things Thi would normally do, it would be unfunny and coma-inducing.
I liked that. And I like Phayu the love rival even more. This show is a bit bonkers and it's a refreshing varioation on the theme - the series needs snappier pacing though.
I'm a little confused about what their characters' age difference is. Noey and his friends referred to themselves as freshmen, which would make them fourteen at most, and that can't be right. I thought they must be seventeen or eighteen.
Ya know what I am kind of upset that Noey chose Thi as second option to Pam. But so far I love it, but Thi really…
It's not just you - Noey's friend is hotttt. So is Phayu, the love rival.
I have to disagree about Thi being a second choice - Noey even more or less said that he liked the idea of Pam but he realized the person he really wanted was Thi. He is consciously trying to get Thi to step out of his box - Thi always resists, but ends up having a great time, so Noey seems to have judged it fairly well so far.
Diao was vile, nasty, vindictive and rude. Rak saved his life but accidently got coffee on Diao's shoes which…
I had trouble getting past the first episode, but after that I was hooked. I didn't see it the same way - Diao was just prickly and felt inferior to Rak. Also, Rak corrected his behavior constantly - it was the main theme of the show, so I wonder if you were following my strategy for shows I don't like too much of fast-forwarding through it for shirtless scenes. But every episode had Diao being taught a lesson by Rak, so I don't think you can say nobody corrected his behavior.
It's not a drama, it's a sitcom. Diao was quite sweet to everyone except Rak, and I don't see how you can say Rak was weak and pathetic - he was quite firm with Diao over his misbehavior.
But I'd rather have just about anything rather than one where the two look like they're being held at gunpoint…
Oh - I hadn't thought of what the webtoon was like. I have seen some of those and they do give semes tree trunks down below - while on the uke's... end of things, we're all designed to be able to fit larger things down there than might seem likely, I find it a little creepy that the uke often looks almost pre-pubescent and is only there for the seme's pleasure. It's certainly not just KBL that's like this - you could probably count on one hand the number of BLs that didn't squeeze the main pair into the standard uke/seme model.
I’m going out on a limb here that this show is AMAZING, but the kissing sucks??? The kiss scenes are the only…
Amazing is too strong - maybe the upper end of OK with terrible kissing. If there were any chemistry between the leads it would be good. It works better before they're together - after that it's dull and passionless.
I like that this is trying something other than schoolboys, but there is less than zero chemistry between the leads. They manage to keep three feet apart when kissing and don't use their hands, they give each other blank stares, there's just zero heat. They don't need to have sweaty monkey sex, but they have to look like they're into each other. This is a recurrent problem with KBL - too homophobic a society, I guess.
Dennis seems to decline when not around Dong Baek, so the curse must include him too.
Not feeling the chemistry. Something is off. Plus when they are about to kiss Seol Donbaek has this expression…
They have none. The only person who can put heat in his gaze is Dennis, unfortunately.
If you kiss with your bodies as far apart as possible and your hands hanging at your sides, it's weird and passionless. It would be better not to kiss at all than do whatever it was that was supposed to be.
I would rather watch a dead fish kiss in KBLs than a tongue to tongue / saliva exchange kisses in some Thai BLs…
But I'd rather have just about anything rather than one where the two look like they're being held at gunpoint to kiss. It isn't about how far it goes, it's about the chemistry between the leads. KBLs rarely have good chemistry. Watch them when they kiss - their bodies are as far apart as possible, and their hands are just hanging at their sides. That's more like two mannequins than people in love.
This is a neighbourhood social club for middle-aged couples, not the high-class gentlemen's club you find in London…
The scenario is stupid, and you're bending over backwards to justify it. Even if young Thai men loved to go to ballroom dances at senior centers to beat people to death, then it makes no sense that nobody tried to break it up. And just listen to that: young Thai men at ballroom dances for elderly people. Come on. It's completely ridiculous.
I loved everything about ep. 3 but those assholes pouring alcohol on Hyun's head forcing him to drink was hurtful…
Thats kind of a Korean thing. At a division of Samsung I was responsible for COVID response, and it was really upsetting that executives would invite (which is essentially a command) workers to drinking sessions where everyone was packed shoulder to shoulder in a room singing, shouting and othere wise spewing COVID all over each other. That nobody really had a choice was really repugnant. On the other hand, I was in charge of the groupwho cleaned up afterwards, so plenty of free sushi and high-grade soju.
This is a BL. It has a happy ending. Even if one of them is killed horribly, he'll come back as a ghost and there…
There are always exceptions that prove the rule. The salient point is that happy endings are integral to the BL genre. Nitpicking exceptions really serves no purpose. If people are all like that then discussion is impossible if you have to list every possible exception to a general rule. BLs have happy endings. The End.
I wouldn't be surprised if they cast Linus Wang because he is very much in the Wayne Song mold with that hair…
OK, I was ff'ing through ep 2 and naturally switched to normal speed for the bath scene - and I got kind of drawn in. I don't like the main couple very much at this point, except insofar as I like it when Hai Yi takes baths, but I like the way they do their video calls.
And while I LOATHE WITH A BURNING PASSION the seatbelt cliche, at least in this case the seme only did it when Huai En tried and failed to do it himself, so it wasn't quite as horrendous as usual.
Also, I like it when Hai Yi takes baths. It's just that the time-travel guy is silly and annoying. Can't they shift Hai Yi over to the other couple and make it a thrupple?
Another thing is that secondary couples often don't follow the strict seme-uke model which allows them to be more interesting - but they do have to conform when they are "promoted" to main couple, which sticks them in an extremely overused and intensely boring pattern.
My only real criticism is the pace. While it's diminished lately, the endless scenes where Noey would ask Thi to do something and Thi would just stand there doing nothing sometimes literally for 5 minutes was making me feel like dropping this, and it could use faster pacing in general to give it more manic energy. That's why sometimes Bom seems like he's a bit weak - he's acting OTT in an otherwise low-energy scene. If this show had more of the energy of Secret Crush On You it would be better.
But it's still a good series and my second-favorite airing right now (after My School President).
First grade is usually entered at age six. You are called different things per year in high school:
9 - Freshman
10 - Sophomore
11 - Junior
12 - Senior
So you can see how this can be confusing because "junior" and "senior" are commonly used in subtitles to indicate relative age to each other. In this case, Freshman is a specific word that was used, and it seems to be wrong. Worse, these names can also be used for the four years of university, especially "Freshman".
In English, "he's my senior" isn't a phrase you'd hear - but it makes you think the speaker is referring to someone is in the fourth year of high school (or college). Relative age difference is much less important in most Western societies - while in school people in higher years have more status, you don't have to obey them like they do in Thai dramas. They have no authority over you at all and are likely to be punished if they try to exert any, which would be bullying.
I don't really see any mistreatment, except insofar as Noey has some insecurities and fears about how people perceive him. He does pressure Thi to do things, but never overtly or intentionally against his interests - and I think sometimes you need people around you that will push you out of your comfort zone for you to develop as a person. He has never physically hurt Thi (except through negligence), although he has exposed him to danger - which he doesn't likely see as it's normal for him.
That's the point - these are really different people that see the world completely differently, and the comedy and drama come from that and how it draws them to each other.
I know you're not complaining, but I don't get people's objections - what do they want? For Thi to spend all day with people like himself? Then we could watch people studying and reading, or foolling around on their computer. Wouldn't that be gripping?
It's kind of like asking, "Why didn't Hamlet just kill Claudius right away?" The answer is "because then there would be no play."
Also, this is a comedy, so if nothing happens except people sitting around studying and doing things Thi would normally do, it would be unfunny and coma-inducing.
I'm a little confused about what their characters' age difference is. Noey and his friends referred to themselves as freshmen, which would make them fourteen at most, and that can't be right. I thought they must be seventeen or eighteen.
I have to disagree about Thi being a second choice - Noey even more or less said that he liked the idea of Pam but he realized the person he really wanted was Thi. He is consciously trying to get Thi to step out of his box - Thi always resists, but ends up having a great time, so Noey seems to have judged it fairly well so far.
It's not a drama, it's a sitcom. Diao was quite sweet to everyone except Rak, and I don't see how you can say Rak was weak and pathetic - he was quite firm with Diao over his misbehavior.
Dennis seems to decline when not around Dong Baek, so the curse must include him too.
If you kiss with your bodies as far apart as possible and your hands hanging at your sides, it's weird and passionless. It would be better not to kiss at all than do whatever it was that was supposed to be.
And while I LOATHE WITH A BURNING PASSION the seatbelt cliche, at least in this case the seme only did it when Huai En tried and failed to do it himself, so it wasn't quite as horrendous as usual.
Also, I like it when Hai Yi takes baths. It's just that the time-travel guy is silly and annoying. Can't they shift Hai Yi over to the other couple and make it a thrupple?