Now let me remind you guys something: The eclipse is a CHARACTER DRIVEN drama, and not a PLOT DRIVEN narrative.…
Unfortunately, the characters take a back seat to the incredibly repetitive plot which takes up the majority of the time. What is the message it's trying to convey? It's a self-evident message that they're sledge-hammering us over the head with.
Can you really say it doesn't use annoying tropes? It uses ALL of them. Just this episode it used the sponge-bath, wiping food off the corner of the lip, and the underwater kiss.
I do agree with you that Kan and Thua are amazing, and I also agree that they're barely in it.
The thing is, the Consent Police will always be on patrol. Sometimes it's exhausting to have to sift through the…
I'm trying to understand why people are so intent on twisting people's intentions and ignoring the actual words and actions of characters to interpret everything as nefarious. Maybe some of our viewers are very young and find sex and sexuality dark and threatening, or are overwarned about it by protective parents. Have a sip of beer? It's rape. Aggressive flirting? Rape. Asking for sex? Rape. Having consensual sex with there being any age or power differential? Rape. Anyting but two people of exactly the same age who have engaged in a long-term commitment and provided explicit verbal consent is not acceptable, and even then it's only grudgingly tolerated. After all "we don't need steamy scenes in romance." All we need is holding hands, or if we're getting really racy, a hug.
The thing is, the Consent Police will always be on patrol. Sometimes it's exhausting to have to sift through the…
There are people arguing what Sky's subconcious motivations were - how about what's onscreen? Sky thought Prapai was hot and wanted to have sex with him - why make it more complicated than it was?
The only thing that's a little irriating is that Sky regrets it - most college-age guys aren't going to be bothered that someone only wanted them for sex because they also wanted the other guy for sex, which is the case here - I don't see what there is to regret. If Sky had a crush on Prapai and then Prapai used him for sex, that would be something different - but here they had just met, and if anything, Sky is the one that wanted a one-nighter.
Again, it's the idea that a man (or woman) should not desire and seek to be penetrated for pleasure - an out-of-date attitude that I hope BL can eventually get past. Sometimes you see a hot guy and you want to f@#$ him. It's not that complicated, and there's nothing wrong with it.
You really don’t understand the story. Believe me, if a guy has sex with another guy, whom he does not particularly…
It's flirting. I can see why young people don't have sex anymore if they view everying as coercion. You've interpreting a huge amount into this scene that's not there, even to his subconcious feelings? How about he thought Prapai was hot and wanted to have sex with him? That's what's obvious in the scene, but you think it's everyting but that.
He didn't force him. He didn't even say what Sky needed to do. Sky decided what that was, and it was clearly what…
There's a difference between not wanting to do something and regretting doing it afterwards. If you're on a diet, you may regret eating an entire cheesecakea big desert, but that doesn't mean you didn't want and enjoy the desert.
People aren't aggressive in bed because they're angry at someone, they're aggressive because they're turned on. They even had sex more than once. If he didn't want it he would have left after the first time.
I love Sky - I have since Ep 1. This is a more complex and interesting story than Rain and Phayu, and Sky is not a typical uke, which is kind of nice. And that love scene had a lot of wow. I hope Fort can keep up with Peat - if he can this is going to be a memorable couple.
There is a persistent problem, however, which is that whoever wrote the screenplay doesn't know how to write a screenplay. You have to keep things visual and not have everyone tell you what their thinking, even when they're alone. Peat is a very strong actor and he's more than capable of expressing what he's thinking and feeling through acting instead of reciting his inner monologue out loud.
Also, all we needed was the retelling of the first scene of Ep 1 - the rest was extraneous, and I'm not sure what the point of the chicken dance scene was. I'm guessing Sig is a more significant character in the novel and whoever wrote the screenplay (see above) didn't cut him out here where he serves no purpose, even if I'm in love with Tonnam and can never get too much of him.
You do not need to watch it. This is a totally separatee story. I would watch the first episode and see if you like it, but if it's not your thing, you can come straight to this story without mising anything.
Can everyone please stop saying Prapai forced Sky? You need to listen to the dialog:
S: "What do you want?" P: "It depends on what you can offer me. But if I can choose..." [moves to touch Sky's cheek, Sky grabs his wrist to stop him] P: "So do you know now what you need to do to get out of here?" S: [Grabs him by the collar] "Take what you want."
Prapai only implied, and he could have meant anything - "let me touch your cheek" or "kiss me" or "give me your line ID". He said "It depends on what you can OFFER me."
It was sky who decided to interpret it that way because that's what he wanted. There was not one iota of resistance, the look on his face was pure, aggressive lust, and he ripped his own shirt off and even grabbed Prapai by the throat.
You have to work incredibly hard to see any coersion or non-consent in this, because it simply isn't there. Regret after you do something is not the same thing as being violated. If you haven't ever done something you regret, you're doing it wrong.
And Sky regretted it because he's making a lot of assumptions about Prapai that are not justified, although they're quite understandable given his past experience. Sky is assuming Prapai only wants sex, and he's wrong.
I read Love Sky novel, so I know what happened to Sky in the past and Prapai acting like this and forcing him…
How did Prapai force him? I didn't see any force going on. Someone being forced doesn't usually tear his own clothes off and grab his partner by the neck.
Prapai is delicious! He has the bad boy aura down pat. And that smile is as warm as it is naughty. No wonder Sky…
He didn't force him. He didn't even say what Sky needed to do. Sky decided what that was, and it was clearly what he wanted. And if you watch the love scene, did Sky look like he was doing something he didn't want to do?
So, prapaisky first night was not out of love and attraction but manipulation and low-key blackmail !!
Watch it again and pay close attention to the dialog, then watch Sky's attitude in the love scene. Prapai never said what Sky had to do - Sky decided what he needed to do because that's what he wanted.
You really don’t understand the story. Believe me, if a guy has sex with another guy, whom he does not particularly…
He didn't actually say that. his is the dialog:
S: "What do you want?" P: "It depends on what you can offer me. But if I can choose..." [moves to touch Sky's cheek, Sky grabs his wrist to stop him] P: "So do you know now what you need to do to get out of here?" S: [Grabs him by the collar] "Take what you want."
Prapai only implied, and he could have meant anything - "let me touch your cheek" or "kiss me" or "give me your line ID".
It was sky who decided to interpret it that way because that's what he wanted. There was not one iota of resistance, the look on his face was pure, aggressive, lust, and he ripped his own shirt off.
You have to work incredibly hard to see any coersion or non-consent in this, because it simply isn't there.
It wasn't meant to be horror, it was moreover a horror-humor-comedy which is a typical Thai style.I think revealing…
I dont mean that it needs to be more horror-like, but they could have done the reveal when the main character finds out. It never hurts to have a mystery.
Im on my phone so i cant be too wordy. But i foukd this competent and better written than usual, but not outstanding. I'm curious to see how the second ep goes - maybe this one is all setup.
It's OK. There's nothing terrible about it, but it's a bit slow. Tod has gotten even more handsome and it's nice to see him in a bigger role, but I have to say I couldn't watch this in one sitting.
I would have started with something more action & ghost oriented, like maybe Kawin barely escaping a ghost in a scary scene so there are stakes. Instead there was a long scene where we watched him talking to people writing things we can't see while he's live streaming, which is even more dull than watching a live stream.
The acting is pretty good, and I liked the creepy sister, but it didn't grab me. All that exposition about merit points was... a lot of exposition, and since there's no mystery anymore, I'm not sure where the dramatic tension will come from. Maybe it would also have been nice to have a heated moment with the love interest, although I'm grateful there was no accidental kiss or a trip-catch-stare scene.
Can you really say it doesn't use annoying tropes? It uses ALL of them. Just this episode it used the sponge-bath, wiping food off the corner of the lip, and the underwater kiss.
I do agree with you that Kan and Thua are amazing, and I also agree that they're barely in it.
The only thing that's a little irriating is that Sky regrets it - most college-age guys aren't going to be bothered that someone only wanted them for sex because they also wanted the other guy for sex, which is the case here - I don't see what there is to regret. If Sky had a crush on Prapai and then Prapai used him for sex, that would be something different - but here they had just met, and if anything, Sky is the one that wanted a one-nighter.
Again, it's the idea that a man (or woman) should not desire and seek to be penetrated for pleasure - an out-of-date attitude that I hope BL can eventually get past. Sometimes you see a hot guy and you want to f@#$ him. It's not that complicated, and there's nothing wrong with it.
People aren't aggressive in bed because they're angry at someone, they're aggressive because they're turned on. They even had sex more than once. If he didn't want it he would have left after the first time.
There is a persistent problem, however, which is that whoever wrote the screenplay doesn't know how to write a screenplay. You have to keep things visual and not have everyone tell you what their thinking, even when they're alone. Peat is a very strong actor and he's more than capable of expressing what he's thinking and feeling through acting instead of reciting his inner monologue out loud.
Also, all we needed was the retelling of the first scene of Ep 1 - the rest was extraneous, and I'm not sure what the point of the chicken dance scene was. I'm guessing Sig is a more significant character in the novel and whoever wrote the screenplay (see above) didn't cut him out here where he serves no purpose, even if I'm in love with Tonnam and can never get too much of him.
S: "What do you want?"
P: "It depends on what you can offer me. But if I can choose..." [moves to touch Sky's cheek, Sky grabs his wrist to stop him]
P: "So do you know now what you need to do to get out of here?"
S: [Grabs him by the collar] "Take what you want."
Prapai only implied, and he could have meant anything - "let me touch your cheek" or "kiss me" or "give me your line ID". He said "It depends on what you can OFFER me."
It was sky who decided to interpret it that way because that's what he wanted. There was not one iota of resistance, the look on his face was pure, aggressive lust, and he ripped his own shirt off and even grabbed Prapai by the throat.
You have to work incredibly hard to see any coersion or non-consent in this, because it simply isn't there. Regret after you do something is not the same thing as being violated. If you haven't ever done something you regret, you're doing it wrong.
And Sky regretted it because he's making a lot of assumptions about Prapai that are not justified, although they're quite understandable given his past experience. Sky is assuming Prapai only wants sex, and he's wrong.
S: "What do you want?"
P: "It depends on what you can offer me. But if I can choose..." [moves to touch Sky's cheek, Sky grabs his wrist to stop him]
P: "So do you know now what you need to do to get out of here?"
S: [Grabs him by the collar] "Take what you want."
Prapai only implied, and he could have meant anything - "let me touch your cheek" or "kiss me" or "give me your line ID".
It was sky who decided to interpret it that way because that's what he wanted. There was not one iota of resistance, the look on his face was pure, aggressive, lust, and he ripped his own shirt off.
You have to work incredibly hard to see any coersion or non-consent in this, because it simply isn't there.
Im on my phone so i cant be too wordy. But i foukd this competent and better written than usual, but not outstanding. I'm curious to see how the second ep goes - maybe this one is all setup.
I would have started with something more action & ghost oriented, like maybe Kawin barely escaping a ghost in a scary scene so there are stakes. Instead there was a long scene where we watched him talking to people writing things we can't see while he's live streaming, which is even more dull than watching a live stream.
The acting is pretty good, and I liked the creepy sister, but it didn't grab me. All that exposition about merit points was... a lot of exposition, and since there's no mystery anymore, I'm not sure where the dramatic tension will come from. Maybe it would also have been nice to have a heated moment with the love interest, although I'm grateful there was no accidental kiss or a trip-catch-stare scene.