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Replying to Keganxoxo Jul 31, 2022
I get it's a series. But ALL of this could have been so easy to clarify. If ploy was really concerned or guilty…
Yes, it goes under my category "Implausible misuderstanding". I was hoping they'd rewrite this from the series to make it more believable. They tried the "you shouldn't have put yourself in that situation" angle, which actually worked a little, but both of them are so obviously miserable and missing each other tha you would think a least one of their dozens of mutual friends would have done something. Eventually they did, but way, way too late for them not to be assholes.
On Check Out Jul 31, 2022
Title Check Out
The secret to watching this is to push play, then hit the adv 10 seconds button until someone takes their shirt off. Boat has surprisingly nice abs.

Also, in the credits there are several attractive guys that haven't been in the series so far. Are they going to show up?
Replying to Weiwei Jul 31, 2022
Title Check Out
Personally I'm shipping Ice/Tee.
I'm shipping Me/Tee.
Replying to PaMiKa Jul 31, 2022
I can understand it if they are dressed like that indoors. I cannot comment on BKK campuses, but walking from…
Haha, yes, you're right. I was there for a business trips and I never really had to exposed to heat - you go from airconditioning to airconditioning. I don't remember any of it being set to a cold temperature, but I'm white and male, and I'm also always hot.
Replying to CursedXistence Jul 30, 2022
70 to them is like our 40-50, it's just the way the body reacts when you're used to certain temps. Hell the one…
I get that. My brother moved to LA from the SF area, and it's a degree or so warmer there and now he's always cold up here. But still 32/90 degrees is very hot, and it's very humid there. I've never seen anyone in Thailand dress like that.

In other words, their 90 is still not our sweater weather. 67 isn't cold, but if it's humid that would be a bit uncomfortable without a light jacket. 90, though, is never cold.

But I suspect one of the sponsors is a clothing line. There have been a couple of moments where clothes have been suspiciously prominent in shots.
Replying to 7893881 Jul 30, 2022
*IMacceptingthisBULLSHITFORYINWAR*
The plot is as generic as is achievable and stuffed with as many tired tropes as would fit, so the only thing it has going for it is execution. The acting is not only stellar, but everything else about the production is also very high-quality.
Replying to FreshKicks Jul 30, 2022
Episode 9 .... ** REALLY, there are Spoilers below **WeTV made me pay separately for Parts 1 and 2, to the tune…
Wait, there's an ep 9 out?
Replying to Choi Rin Jul 30, 2022
Why do they never close the door? 😂😂
The same reason they don't password protect their phones?
Replying to FreshKicks Jul 30, 2022
Yeah, seeing Mark getting drunk kinda pissed me off because of the way it regressed the character. I also don't…
Yes, I was thinking that too. Although he clearly wasn't into her.
On Vice Versa Jul 30, 2022
Title Vice Versa
Why is everyone down on Jimmy? I think he's doing a great job. I find Sea a little weak, TBH. Not terrible, but not a lot of range, either.

There's clearly no plot, or it's a weak framework to support the romance, unless the movie script is foreshadowing or we get to see what Ohm & Nanon are up to in "our" universe.

The romance is moving so quickly that I suspect we might actually switch universes. Eiher that or there will be a tiresome string of contrived obstacles and misunderstandings for the next 8 episodes.

I'm not sure why people are confused. Let's put it this way: Do you know what straight guys do not to together? Hint: Take a bath together with their bodies touching and giving each other skin treatments while constantly looking down at each other's netherregions.

Although to be fair, I could ask "Do you know wha tgay guys don't do? Be built like Jimmy and Sea while naked in a tub with their bodies touching without sex happening." Although I guess they're technically built like Ohm and Nanon.
Replying to Jaque Jul 30, 2022
Title Vice Versa
Ep. 3 is the best one so far. Jimmy's acting improved a lot since Bad Buddy and Enchante. He is much more expressive…
I thought he was amazing in the fight scene in Bad Buddy.
Replying to J100 Jul 30, 2022
Title Vice Versa
Could someone tell me what is going on in it for now, I try to watch it but I don't have the patient to watch…
It's almost all Jimmy & Sea, and forunately they're being generous with their bodies, which is always appreciated, especially in their cases.
Replying to Cherry Jul 30, 2022
Title Vice Versa
I understood everything else in episode 3 except the bathtub scene!! It wasn't supposed to happen in this episode…
I didn't see them go back to being friends. They had to go to the meeting at the studio, then flirted with their helmet messages. "The one wearing this is cute" is not something men would normally write to each other.
Replying to Cherry Jul 30, 2022
Title Vice Versa
I understood everything else in episode 3 except the bathtub scene!! It wasn't supposed to happen in this episode…
I didn't see them go back to being friends. They had to go to the meeting at the studio, then flirted with their helmet messages. "The one wearing this is cute" is not something men would normally write to each other.
On My Secret Love Jul 30, 2022
Sigh. I usually enjoy this show, but this week (Ep 9) was weak. The side couples, which are the only thing that makes this watchable. were mostly preoccupied with Kim & Mek's ridiculous situation so I couldn't get much out of them. Bomb did walk around shirtless for a while, and that was nice.

But it's just a big mess and going in circles.

Also, what the f@#$ country is this supposed to take place it? Why is everyone always dressed for winter in Alaska? Aren't there laws to prevent cruelty to actors? I don't think there was a single person at any instant that wasn't wearing a sweater or heavy overshirt. The coldest it ever gets in Bangkok, late at night in January, is 21 degrees (70F) . In the daytime it's 32 degrees (90F) year-round. People will die dressed like that.
Replying to jpny01 Jul 30, 2022
I agree, but there's a way to tell it, and a way not to tell it. The characters still need to act like actual…
I don't agree there - THE central dramatic issue of the story (of BB) was the family conflict - this hardly got addressed, let alone resolved, and the time jump made it worse - now years have passed and they're still dating in secret! In WYEL dad's disapproval was not the central dramatic element and it was at least confronted.

Peach was OK. Jimmy has improved, but they were sloppy with "ghost rules", but then that's universal in Asian dramas. Ghosts can do whatever the plot needs them to do.
Replying to jpny01 Jul 30, 2022
I agree, but there's a way to tell it, and a way not to tell it. The characters still need to act like actual…
The older brother casting in Love Stage was good, and I liked how they weren't shy about exploiting his body. They actually toned down the brother issues in the series, which was probably inevitable.

For WYEL linger I thought they were meeting in secret and setting up a continuation of the story. There's only so much you can do in 2 hours. But I don't disagree with what you're saying. They did address the father issue by what's his name throwing his life away to singlehandedly plow through dad's army to demonstrate his devotion - after that it was less important than the family issue was in Bad Buddy. If dad was unwilling to countenance them, he would have just killed him.
On Love Mechanics Jul 30, 2022
OK, I get there's stuff in the original material and you can't just change all of it, but this episode rehashed the drunkenness of Ep 1, which almost says Mark has undergone no character development at all, and it's only purpose was to postpone their reconciliation in a particularly tiresome and irritating way - they even hauled out Ploy AGAIN for the same purpose. And before anyone says it, she could have told him this a month ago when Mark wasn't drunk and obviously in distress.

The acting in this was superb as usual, and I appreciate that they're not stingy with War's body, but this ep could have accomplished everything it need to in half the time, and every episode is starting to feel that way.

Also, I don't need a bunch of college kids to be perfect when it comes to consent issues, but couldn't they write these stories so that they don't just totally ignore the issue and normalize behavior that's problemmatic? Even a conversation like "Dude, he said no - you have to back off." "I know. But I can't control myself." There you are - he's doing a bad thing but acknowledges it.
Replying to SnowRegret Jul 30, 2022
It is telling and kind of sad that there is such a blaringly obvious double-standard being applied to this show…
I'm a little more tolerant of the drinking trope, which I loathe, in this series. I don't mind college-aged people drinking, because, well, college-aged people. But it's for the same plot device over and over and over. In this ep, drunk Vee singing was fine - that's what alcohol is for. But how many times are people going to vomit just as the truth is about to be revealed and lose all memory of what happened? First of all, 100% don't vomit 100% of the time when they drink, for example I've never vomited due to drinking, and I lived in Poland for a while, so the amount of vodka I've downed should have killed off my liver.

However, this is a remake and they're stuck with the (bad) original material, and I think they've done a good job of doing whatever they can to make it palatable.

As for double-standards, yes, it's true, but is it the worst? First, it's clear to everyone including Mark and Vee that Mark doesn't really want Vee to give up, and when Vee really belives it, he gives up and doesn't bother him anymore. Still, Mark SAID no - so Vee is in the wrong, but it's not morally equal to Mark's pursuit of Bar, who gave him zero hope and had a boyfriend.

If Mark were a girl, it would be disturbing, but if Vee were a girl, she'd be allowed to do ANYHING. The level of sexual harassment of men by women in BL is seriously disturbing. So there is more than one double-standard.
Replying to jpny01 Jul 30, 2022
I agree, but there's a way to tell it, and a way not to tell it. The characters still need to act like actual…
That seems to happen a lot. Love Stage was also a comedy that was turned into a drama. For example. Turbo's character is totally useless bu so cute that he manages to get through life. For his artwork, the joke is that it looks like crayon scribbles of a small child but Kaownah loves them anyway because he's so smitten. And the manager is more like Darth Vader than the relatively sweet character in th Thai series.

I view WYEL in the context of when it was made. I wouldn't overlook the kiss now, but then just having anything gay at all was a revolution. I loathe time jumps, but in this case it wasn't papering over the problem. Plus it was a short series - Bad Buddy squandered six 45-minute episodes on fanservice then totally avoided the central conflict. But if fast pacing is an issue you're not going to like any Korean BLs because they're all the length of 2-3 eps of a Thai series. For me, I often have the opposite problem. Many Thai series are so slow and dull that I forget they're even on.

Maybe they should moosh them together. I guess Peach of Time did that.