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Those are BL terms - the "seme" is the top, who is almost always taller, larger, and older, and the "uke" is the bottom, who is almost always smaller, weaker (even frail) and shorter.

Go to "Seme and uke" here for a good description:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys%27_love

I should make it clearer what is sarcasm. My issue is that semes and ukes are treated like totally different genders, with the seme as the "real" man and the uke as a weak and helpless person that needs a seme to protect him. First of all, it's conflating stereotypical masculine traits (and in manny cases shallow ones) with strength, and stereotypical feminine traits as "weak" or "submissive." We wouldn't tolerate a female character being depicted as so weak, so why should we accept it in a man? It's not only offensive, it's boring.

I think it's unlikely there will be a S2. There's so much that needs to come together, including the actors' schedules, the funding, etc. If they had done what the director wanted and filmed 2 seasons together, that would have been better. On the budget available, it would mean a sacrifice of quality and probably length (which wouldn't kill it - e.g. they could cut out the teachers).

It's too bad about the piracy - it really kills the market for BLs.

You really need to work on your social skills, or at least do research instead of just asserting that facts suit what you want them to.

It's not a made up statistic, although I exaggerated because I wasn't being serious. There are several causes - one is that woman are more selective, for example on Tinder, women swipe right on 14% of profiles and men swipe right on 46% of profiles. On most sites, women can select for height, which eliminates most men, and perceived socio-economic status. Men are limited in options for filtering based on appearance, and men show no sign of valuing economic status. Algorithms tend to direct people to profiles that are getting a lot of right swipes, which accelerates the phenomenon.

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Ignore - wrong BL due to typical human error.

1. Do you have a link to where a S2 is confirmed? I read an interview with the director, who said there's no funding or commitment, but that was from a couple of weeks ago.

2. True, but this is an adaptation and it needs to stand on its own. To say we should have read the novel before watching so we knew what we were getting into is a bit odd, isn't it? That's what a trailer is for, and the trailer marketed this as a romance, and it wasn't - it was the very beginning of one, but it ended before it got anywhere. I love slow pacing - I thought the pacing of this was perfect until they moved out of their parents, and then it went nowhere and then ended.

3. This is absurd. This is a discussion forum and people are not all going to have the same opinion. Look at what you wrote: "There is no need to comment as if only your opinion and rating is the one that is correct if you find this overrated or too high in rating to your liking."

You then immediately do exactly what you said people shouldn't do and commented as if only your opinion and rating is the one that is correct. What difference does it make if more people like this drama than don't? There are people here actually encouraging people to go to imdb to upvote it. That does nothing. What DOES do something if for people to watch this legally. A huge percentage of the people defending this to the death watched a pirated copy, which materially harmed the chances of a S2 being made. I didn't like it but I paid for it, so I materially helped the chances of a S2 being made.

You also wrote "whether you want to understand or not.." which is intensely condescending and is also "comment[ing] as if only your opinion and rating is the one that is correct."

If there is a confirmed S2, then that is a salient fact that will change my opinion, but I can't find any evidence of it. The director said there's a script written, and he's hinted that it's "in the works", but he's also said it isn't funded and the production company has to be convinced. Which they might be if people pay to watch it.

Ok but the series is over and we didn't get to any of that. Is there any guarantee we'll get more? I read the interview with the director - there's no funding and no commitments.

It's not slowburn, it's noburn. slowburn is satisfying if it goes somewhere. This didn't. If there is a S2, then maybe it will, but that's a big leap if you don't even have funding lined up, and it ssems like 90% of the audience "steals" these series instead of paying for them, which greatly lessens the chance something will get an S2.

Prediction: This will stay around 8.4 for a few months, maybe decline slightly - if there's no sign of an S2, it will punge to the high 7s. If there is a S2 it will remain in the 8s.

A series needs to stand on its own. It can't only work if you've read the source material, and it can't rely on a second season to tell a full story.

This did not tell a full story, and it didn't end in a satisfying place. I would have ended it when the boys move out at the "you're home" scene. That would have been beautiful.

I love the characters and the acting (and everything about Andy Chen - it's probably clear I'm obsessed), which is why this is frustrating. If there's no Season 2, there will be NO FORGIVENESS! But I hope there is an S2. BLs seem usually to be better at the beginning and decline in the second half, as if the writers don't know what to do with the characters and so let them run in circles. In the case of this series, it was a wonderful slow burn, so it shouldn't have been difficult to set up SW's actions at the end in a more convincing way.

Kim is stunning.

That was better than last week, and I had more respect for Patt, who was at least holding his own and making Elis work for it.

It isn't quite as campy ridiculous as UN, but on the other hand, Elis is like 40 times more attractive than what's-his-name.

99% of people who rave about "green flag! green flag!" wouldn't give the time of day to some sexless nice guy. 99% of female attention on dating apps goes to 5% of guys - and they aren't the nice ones.

The real question is, why do you hate Cambodian BL so much? You haven't ever even mentioned one. You must be Burkino Fasan.

That is 100% NOT a spoiler. How does that spoil anything? If there had been a user ID 'rosebud' who wrote "I'm a sled" or d@rth_v8er writing "you remind me of my son Luke", then sure.

But that means that to avoid. tossing what they were able to build until now, he tossed what they have bult until now.

My problem is that for the last ep, they emphasized Sheng Wang's sexual attraction, which has hardly been hinted at until now, without any idea of what changing classes accomplishes. They live in the same room. SW watches JT undress for showers, change clothes, etc. There was no setup for this before the last episode.

If he wanted to avoid having sexual feelings, the action to take would be to move out of the dorm.

All the above is why I found this plotline very unconvincing.

I didn't hate the last episode as much as I thought I would, but I still didn't like it. The acting in this series is excellent, and the plot makes a lot more sense and is better crafted than most BLs, but still, I started to find this repetitive and tedious. I wish the series had ended with the "you're home" scene, because the rest of the series after that didn't really cover any new ground other than Sheng Wang's descent into self-denial I don't think it was very convincing. This really needed to be set in 1992, or maybe at the latest 2002, not 2012.

I love that the host is so into Andy Chen - a true gay man. I actually only stuck with this series because I found him so enthralling.

He's a sexy guy. In 10 years he'll be more dangerous.

Do you think it' rare to have suffered trauma from an ex? I think it's rare not to have ever. First, we're using the word "trauma" very loosely here. An ex having friends say mean things about you is unpleasant, not traumatic, unless there's a level of fragility in a person that's so great that it's probably not a good idea to be in a relationship until some personal work is done.

I agree with you that Diew shouldn't be made to discuss his past, but he could have said, "he's my ex and I don't want to discuss it." There's a difference between not wanting to discuss something and lying about it. When you lie, it casts doubt on anything else you say. Thus I think you're taking the bracelet issue out of context. If Diew hand't just badly lied about Pee, then God would be out of line - but he was just lied to - which is close to the worst thing you can do to a partner. Once you've done that, you aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

I'm a little surprised that you would equate Diew's lack of openness with any that God has shown - as far as I can tell God has never hidden anything from Diew and has been totally open about his feelings and remarkably non-judgmental about Diew - he hasn't even criticized him for turtle cruelty (the one thing everyone seems to agree on!)

I don't dislike Diew, but I don't like him either. I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to him and I would want him to work on his issues - but I don't think he's right for God and I don't think he's relationship material. He's too immature and fragile, and being in a relationship is hard and a lot of work and involves compromise and honesty, neither of which he's inclined to.

Part of Diew's problem is really bad and lazy writing. Just the right book falls off a shelf to just the right page to concern God, Diew just happens to get locked in an elevator with Pee at just the wrong moment to maximize misunderstanding and he's unable to even get out a text in 5 hours, etc.

I don't think God is blameless - but you're not giving him any leeway for his feelings. Diew has been lying to him, missed an event that was very important to him when he needed him, and it's clear that Diew tells him what he wants to hear rather than what he really thinks, which is a terrible realization because then you feel like you've been making someone you love do things they don't want to against their will.

I'm glad they'll talk it out according to the formula, but I don't care about this couple anymore and would rather God move on. Hopefully the secondary couple won't let me down.

In general, BL is way, way too dependent on miscommunication to drive its stories. It's not well-written or plausible miscommunication, it's always driven by ridiculous coincidences or plot contrivances. That's inexcusable in this series where you already have two characters that are so different that there is plenty of organic conflict built in that would have allowed exploration of their characters and how people can build something despite radically different worldviews, but instead it's driven by stupid external forces. Really, an elevator being stuck for hours? Even an old and basic elevator has an alarm button which sets off a bell that's really loud, and that was a modern elevator.

No. Age of consent laws are to protect minors from being exploited by adults, not outlaw sex until you're 18. Threre's nothing wrong with being attracted to a 15 year old at any age - there's only something wrong with it if you're older than the age of consent if you act on that attraction. If you're both minors, especially above a mininum age, there are almost never any prosecutions and for the most part in most places it's legal. There are sometimes laws that restrict the age difference to 2-3 years which can blur the minor-non minor barrier (called "Romeo & Juliet" laws).

Personally, I don't think it's weird to find any post-pubescent attractive - although I think it's very wrong to act upon those attractions if you're over 18.