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Then why not say it first? He's the more assertive person - those were not shy kisses.

That was a lot to go through to get nowhere. There's a point where the cluelessness becomes implausible. Dude has piles of sketchbooks with drawings of you in them and you make out with him twice, and you can't put 2+2 together?

The acting was good, I think, but it's hard to tell since both characters spent 98% of the series in one mood each. I don't know - I liked the first half a lot, but it dragged a lot in the second and there's minimal payoff. I haven't watched Unintentional Love Story, so maybe it would make more sense then.

I suspect you're overthinking, but now I wish you'd written this screenplay.

I didn't like this.

The lack of communication in BL in general is bad enough without one where there is absolutely no communication at all. Why are Asian dramas so dependent on implausible misunderstanding? It's mystifying and frustrating.

The kissing was good, though.

Pet turtles generally just sit around doing nothing. That one is always frantically clawing at it's box. I hope there are air holes in that thing - there's a lot of condensation on the sides...

During the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles craze, every boy in France wanted a turtle - then everyone figured out they're not great pets and released them into the wild, where they caused enormous environmental damage as invasive species. The pets were red-eared sliders which outcompeted the native European pond turtle and the government had to step in to save the situation.

I'm just afraid that Diew's turtle will eventually escape, and, fueled by psychopathic rage at being so abused, become a serial killer.

Not really. KBLs are only surpassed by JBL in bad kissing. But this one is one of the best I've seen.

I'm confused. I'm watching a Korean series and there are men... kissing. Instead of just touching their lips together in the most dead fish manner achievable.

That does make sense. But does he ever take it out of the travel tank? Turtles aren't generally the most active creatures unless they're trying to catch food - but the way that poor thing is perpetually clawing at the box doesn't speak well for it's happiness about being in the box.

Also, I can see putting it in the small tank when you have to take it somewhere, like the vet, but he seems to drag the poor thing around with him all day. It feels a little like the writers are beating us over the head with the Diew = turtle symbolism while missing that he's coming off as abusive to the turtle. Also, we get it. He retreats into his shell. I think we all got that in the first ep.

I don't think there's anything wrong with diagnosing a fictional character, i just don't think there's anywhere near enough info to support it and it seems in conflict with his self-perception. Being neurodivergent just... is. His outlook, however, is driven by specific events of his past.

Attachment to a cbildren's book isn't neurodivergent, it's almost universal. When I was 50 my brother found copies of books we had been read as children and bought them for me. Almost everyone is attached to a children's book they loved.

The bullies were just assholes.

You're right. I rewatched it. For some reason I forgot he threw it down before it exploded, because he couldn't get it open. I'm a bit silly about inanimate objects - I feel bad if I abuse them - but I can understand a reaction like that. However, he should have picked it up and thrown it away instead of littering (!) That actually would have been a nice touch and really cute.

What adult takes a pet turtle with him everywhere? It's cruel to stuff it into a tiny box - you can see IRL the turtle is desperate to get out of there, not to mention zipping around with it on a motorbike. No wonder it got sick.

Thank you! It's hard not to "spoil" in conversations like this. It's not that I didn't enjoy the episode - it was the first time we got to see strong acting from Big (he's been fine throughout, but his character has been very steady in mood and outlook). I just don't like Diew. I was never all that keen on him due to his immaturity, but I don't like the character for how weak they make him - "bottom" does not equal "helpless child".

Most people can deal with a sick turtle without help from a "real man", and maybe the turtle wouldn't be sick if he didn't stuff it into a tiny box and take it everywhere with him. Poor thing must have terrible motion sickness being hurled around on a motorcylce all the time.

Not at all - I enjoyed reading it.

I can't bring myself to dislike Diew, but he's totally wrong for God, who needs someone who can be open and honest. I'm actually more like Diew than I am like God, but I would never trust Diew again after he lied to me several times about Pee being his ex. Why would anyone lie about that? The only reason that makes sense is that he has something to hide, like still having feelings for him.

God reached the wrong conclusion, but it was a totally reasonable conclusion, and Diew could easily have cleared up the misunderstanding, but he chose to sulk and shut God out instead. Even then, I can get past that because he's a fragile little child, but he had more than enough time to be alone and think and and then gone to talk to God.

I can't blame Diew for the horrible writing with the elevator thing, but come on. Even with a terrible connection you'd be able to get a text successfully sent in a 5-hour period.

Also, I wouldn't want to feel like I was dating a Victorian child with consumption - I'm gay because I like men. And TBH, would anyone write such a weak and helpless female character? If not, then why a gay one? That's a BL thing - it might not strike a lot of people as homophobic, but it is. It's basically saying that a bottom isn't a man - he's a childlike thing that has to be guided and protected. If my boyfriend suggested that I must be ill because I'd been outside in THAILAND where in winter at night it doesn't fall below 23 degrees, I'd smack him.

I think we shouldn't diagnose people from a distance and should take them at face value, and he seems to think he's an introvert. I don't get neurodivergence from him at all. He's perfectly aware of social cues, his emotions, other people's, etc. He's more than mildly introverted, to be sure - but he's also weak and scrawny and seems to have been bullied and mistreated, so that might accentuate his wariness of other people.

Wait a second - God cut himself on the can and then it sprayed him. That's not an outrageous reaction, and since when is it immature to take out frustration on an inanimate object? That's what you should do.

None of that is important, I would agree. But Diew plain out lied about Pee being his ex, more than once. That is not a small thing, and I would have hard time trusting someone after they did that. Since it ended badly with Pee he could easily have said "it didn't end well and I don't want to discuss it." But why lie? What reason would there be for doing that unless he still had feelings for him?

He's not behaving out of jealousy, he's behaving out of a feeling that his bf is lying to him.

God didn't read the diary, it fell and the photo fell off it. And if something is private, you don't put it on a bookshelf like that. God shouldn't have jumped to conclusions, but Diew had just lied to him more than once when directly asked if Pee was his ex. Why hide that? And if he's hiding that, isn't it reasonable to suspect he's hiding other things?

If you had an ex that you had very negative feelings about and your current bf asked you about it, why would you hide it? It doesn't make any sense. "It ended badly and I don't want to revisit it" would have been plenty. But the only reason to hide something like that is if you still have feelings. Well, OK, you might also hide it if Pee were God's ancestral enemy or something, but that's not a very likely scenario. Athough this is a BL.

I don't think it's Diew's responsibility to tell God about his exes, but he was asked, and he lied.

There is absolutely no comparison here in bad behavior. God very reasonably jumped to the wrong conclusion, and Diew refused to clear it up after lying to his current BF.