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Anyway, Jagi was incredible in the last ep - I think I forgot to breathe throughout that whole last section. This was a brilliant story, and I loved the deconstruction of the seme/uke dynamic.

I think the objection is the misogyny more than obsessing over top and bottom although that gets tiresome too.

I'm glad they didn't put that plot point you referenced into the live-action Addicted - that would have ruined it. I've noticed in reading female-written erotica that there's an obsession with "preparation" - to the point that sex scenes are 99% preparation (one finger, then two, then three) and 1% actual sex. In my experience a stiff drink and deep breathing is usually preparation enough. Anyway, lack of endless preparation is usually depicted as some sort of abuse.

I was actually open-mouthed at Lovely Writer. Do you think maybe BL writers tend to be masochists or something? The obsession with the pain and injury is really, really strange. You can certainly bleed from it, but to be hurt so badly you need hospitalization would require someone hung like an elephant. Fisting is a thing - you can fit a lot up there - it's designed to stretch.

To be fair, though, almost all BL is written that way. It needs to change there first.

What is all this obsession with top and bottom? This was not addressed at all in the drama, nor is it relevant. Hira could just as well be an aggressive bottom as a top, or they could be versatile, or disinterested in anal sex entirely. The sexual role is not related to the power dynamic, psychology, or anything else. It's just what turns you on.

It's implied that Hira is the top, which is only interesting because the impression was created that it might be the opposite of that, but what's really interesting about this drama is it examines objectification without having a woman in it, which makes it less "loaded" by societal gender-role baggage, which is ironic as the audience here seems to want to reload all that baggage right back in there.

It's actually quite interesting - Kiyoi likes being objectified, but doesn't want to be isolated on a pedestal, either.

That's a mistake I'm seeing a lot of in this discussion section - it's painted as either/or. You can objectify someone and still love them for who they are, and you can like being objectified while still wanting to be loved for who you are. I know I like being objectified, and I miss being young and beautiful, but I also like being less stupid, so there are some advantages to age.

But I've also been in a relationship where I was wholly an object, and he really didn't know me at all or how I felt about anything. And for the record, he was the bottom.

But it wasn't a D/s relationship at all - in fact it was Hira who had the power all along.

I think maybe they should stop releasing them as eight 12-minute episodes and just put it out as a movie or maybe at least four 24-min episodes. I'm thinking I might actually drop this until it's complete and then watch the whole thing.

On the other hand, I don't want to reduce the number of views. Maybe I can just click on everything but not watch it.

He's supposed to be weird, and I find him interesting. I think on the contrary, almost everything he says is meaningful - he has a good sense of what's important and what's not - or for example the way he handled the kid. Singto, on the other hand, is just one note - just annoyed at everything. That's his character, so I guess it's OK, but a more talented actor could have given him more depth and nuance.

I don't think you read my post.

But I also still love Drake. :)

I thought it was 10 eps instead of 12. If I'd known that when I was watching this ep it would have bothered me less.

Oh. Well then, never mind. LOL, for some reason I was thinking it was 10.

That was a great episode - this series is surprisingly good and enjoyable. Usually child actors are unbearable, but this on did a great job. I love Tae - I almost (but not quite) feel motivated to rewatch 2moons for him.

Same for me - I think this show is fantastic. I love Tae's character - it's so different and refreshing, and this is a better role for Singto than in Baker Boys. I'm going to commit blasphemy, but I enjoyed this week's ep more than Bad Buddy, which I found disappointing.

Odd - I have the opposite feeling. I find Singto dull and unexpressive and I love Tae's acting.

That looked like a prize you might find in a cereal box, so maybe there's a quality control issue in some food factory somewhere.

I think this is an alternate universe where being gay is no different than being straight, so I don't think Wai perceived he was doing anything but exposing the relationship between Pat and Pran rather than outing them and exposing them to homophobia and social opprobrium. It was still wrong, but to me the problem with the episode was that the Wai situation has been built into the central conflict of the story and it was solved so quickly and completely solely by external circumstances and not through a "come-to-Jesus" confrontation that was really needed. Wai certainly did the right thing in the end, but it wasn't going out of his way, it was just telling the truth. He should have taken the bullet, which would have been a better redemption.

I still hate the man bun.

I completely agree. There was way too much fanservice in this ep to the point I was finding it tiresome, and some of that time should have been spent on the Wai situation, which has been the most central conflict to the story.

This alternate universe seems to not regard being gay as an issue - the hostility was never about anyone being gay, it was consorting with the wrong faculty, so I don't think "outing" was really an issue as it would be in real life - in essence what he revealed was the relationship - it wasn't really any different than if it were a straight relationship.

But there should still have been an apology from Wai, even if his anger was sufficiently motivated as he'd been repeatedly lied to by his best friend, which is very painful. To have made the resolution entirely external and not had any conversation about it made it feel unearned and plastered over.

The gun thing was ridiculous, and the product placement was so intrusive that it took me out of the story. There was too much attempted in this episode and nothing really worked.

That episode was disappointing to me. It's still better than 99% of anything else, but it was not good by Bad Buddy standards. The product placement was out of control - almost a third of the second segment was that stupid tea, not to mention the inhaler.

Also, I thought the resolution of the Wai situation was a bit abrupt, but I guess it's better not to prolong it forever. But the teeny little gun thing was so random and silly.

I'm happy we get to see Pat and Pran interact as boyfriends before the last 30 seconds of the series as is usual for BL, but this episode was fanservice and it was getting annoying. I would rather they spent some of that time on the plot - now the entire family drama is going to be shoved into a single episode and is likely to resolve abruptly and it may feel forced or undeserved.

EDIT: I thought it was 10 episodes, not 12, so it looks like there won't be a rushed conclusion, so yay!

I thought the product placement ruined the episode - it was beyond cringe. Wai made a mistake out of anger but he made up for it. People are flawed - Pat shouldn't have escalated the situation in the bar - that was worse because it was violence.