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I agree - except about the romance. It was definitely a romance.

I'm wondering if people are not understanding the subtitles - I thought they were good, but I'm a native speaker.

But even then, I don't know how anyone could watch the swing scene and not see the body language, how close they were sitting, the way they were looking at each other, the way Keptawan did the "reach around" move you usually do in movie theaters, and asking for a hug.

And the sign - remember, the sign banned romance between staff and guests - his mother took it down as tacit blessing for Keptawan and Nabdao, and when Kep gave his phone number to Nab, Nab said "what about the rule?" meaning, "aren't you banned from romancing me?"

To everyone saying this is not a BL, what? That was the most romantic and beautiful BL I've seen... maybe ever? That was 100% pure, grade A BL. I just spent 30 minutes crying non-stop.

It was so natural and real - it was definitely just a beginning, but it was also definitely love.

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The acting in this was universally good - so natural. And can we talk about how beautiful Mon has become? He's only 20 and not even at his peak yet. Oak is probably never going to be beautiful, but he was so cute in this it just... made my heart smile. I don't know how else to put it.

I get what your saying. But to me Kaeng came on so strong it was obnoxious and desperate, and Puth's motivations made no sense to me.

With Sat & Choke, Sat had memories of the gap between 11 & 18, so I just chose to think of him as an 18 year old with amnesia, otherwise, eww. They should have taken it in that direction because, well, eww.

I almost fainted - I wasn't ready for the airplane store. I need an airplane store.

Interesting. To me it comes off as choreographed and insincere. I like feline moments - but cats play with their food before they eat it. Nobody here ever eats it, they just circle endlessly. Very, very slowly. I thought Kaeng was almost pulling it off in the first ep of the two-parter, but it can't always be like that or it's just a directorial affectation - and Kaeng always looks insecure and desperate to me. As far as the eyes go, it's still one-way for me (I think Kaeng is a noticeably stronger actor and his character makes sense).

Maybe it's partly because Puth makes no sense to me - one minute he was in love with the teacher, then suddenly he wasn't. If he was in love with Kaeng AND sleeping with him, then why not just be with him? He obviously has no fear of commitment.

Usually even if I don't care for a couple, I can still see why everyone else likes them. But here I'm at a loss. Kaeng's flirting is as subtle as the pizza delivery man in a gay porn film (although that's a problem througout this series - Nuea was even worse), so it came off as desperate and icky, Puth's emotional motivations never made sense, and I don't really feel organic chemistry - it's just situational. To me, chemistry is Sat & Choke - that was fire. Too bad the second half of their story was so flat.

You knew there is something missing, which is the important thing, you're just not as pathetic as me wasting time analyzing something I don't like, lol.

Did anyone watch the Kaeng/Puth special episode? Can someone PLEASE explain WHY you like this couple? The whole thing is both of them moving incredibly slowly and acting like they're 12. I see zero heat and passion - I just don't get it. They're almost naked in a sauna and not even touching except for childish pecks on the nose. What is with the moving slowly? It's not just them - everyone in Y Destiny.

We have 20 year old men who behave like 12 year olds and move like 80 year olds. It's weird, and the slowness drains all the energy out of the interaction. The special ep was only 10 minutes long and I was too bored to finish it.

Most of the acting is really good. Most of the writing is terrible.

I'm trying to figure out why everyone liked Puth & Kaeng so much - I found them excruciating to watch. The best thing to do is start a story - if you're not into it the first time a couple is in the same scene, drop, because it won't get any better. If anything annoys you, it will escalate until you want them dead.

Writing that makes sense?

The tantasy elements are fine, but the emotions have to make sense. Like why was Puth so in love with that teacher guy one minute, then totally indifferent to him five minutes later? What did he see in Kaeng, who was a desperate stalker who thinks acting like a porn character is sexy? If he liked Kaeng, then why not just date him since they were having sex anyway?

I hated Puth/Kaeng - I could barely get through it and it was excruciating. It made no emotional sense and BL writers do not know how to write flirting - they seem to think it's practically forcing yourself on someone.

I liked Thurs/Pao and the first half of Sat/Choke, and that's about it.

Today's trope bingo squares:

Weight Shaming
Accidebtal touch/Stare

I'm impressed that there were only two.

BTW, WE GET IT. Yoon likes Lay. Move on. We could tell from the second they were in the same room.
BTW, the fire. lol. LIke seriously lol.
BTW, WE GET IT. Masuk is sad and lonely. Move on. We could tell from the first second we saw him.
BTW, these boys need to go to "how to be comforting" class.
BTW, I don't think that theater received a proper fire inspection.

OK, so it wasn't BAD, but that was an entire hour devloted to 15 minutes of content. So many things were belabored to the point that I was rolling my eyes - it's like they don't trust the sudience or the actors and so they have to beat us over the head. Lay is able to do sad and lonely. Yoon is able to do subtle longing. Let them do it and move on.

I noticed they're throwung in a lot of English into the dialog - not just Sat with fu,l sentences - other characters were using quite a few English words & phrases in their Eventually there will be way fewer languages - one dies every 14 days as natives switch to English, Mandarin, and Spanish.

So far this ep I've had trouble focusing on his eyes.

Second seasons are often so bad that they ruin your memory of the first season - in this case it's hard to imagine a positive outcome unless it's created by a totally different production staff and much better writers. And the leads at least pretend they're attracted to each other.

It's funny that this ep was able to make me totally wrong, but they did it in the wrongest way possible.

If you want to be lectured about bisexuality and intersex by terrble actors who are totally ignorant of the subjects except for common stereotypes, then this is for you. For the remaining 99.999999999% of humanity, run away.

Why did nobody tell me about this? It's so good! Although I'm only on the first ep, so there's plenty of time for them to ruin it.

And is Love going to keep that horrible haircut? Why would they ruin his cuteness with that?

I think I have a subscription. I wonder how many things I've subscribed to and forgotten about. I should probably check my credit card bill.

For a minute I thought you were replying to me, and I was thinking, '"Did I start talking about Solo in Oxygen again?" Because those words are how I would describe him.