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The problem is that's it's seven different stories - you can just drop a series that isn't working for you, but I'm sort of interested in a lot of these pairings. I think I'll just have to give up earlier.

Agree - they can't be doing this to squeeze money out of it - I'm sure Stranger's Kiss was made at a loss. I love LJ and I also loved that there was finally a trans character who had agency and relevance to the story.

I'm with you on this. I actually preferred the Tue story, even though it had an even worse abrupt change, at least for ep 2 they behaved consistently and were sweet to each other.

Here they didn't do anything at all to get to know each other, so their attraction must be almost entirely physical. Not that I wouldnt have that reaction to Max, but still.

This was a mess, where nothing happened for 2 hours. How would you describe the two characters? Nuea: does not understand boundaries, progressive dresser. Sun: things happen to him.

Max could probably be an excellent comic actor if given the right vehicle. Nat can probably never pull off a sexy and seductive character. The clothes worked on him, but everything else made me cringe for 2 hours, which was nothing but slo-mo cliches.

This was more run time than a feature film - there was plenty of space to do a really unteresting story, but they failed completely to even try. Why is Nuea like he is? Why does he like Sun (and accidental kiss doesn't count)? Why does Sun like Nuea? What are their situations? What the barriers to their being together?

Plus, Nuea is awful - he stole Sun's wallet and ruined his week - he probably had to spend hours filling out paperwork to get all his IDs replaced. Everything he did was manipulative and transgressive.

It doesn't matter. It was just an artificial plot device to insert drama. Paint by the numbers writing. They even had Nuea fall for Sun due to an accidental kiss. Both stories feel like they gave the writer one night to write all seven stories and he just threw things in a heap and hoped for the best.

I really don't get how anyone liked this. I can usually at least see why people like things I don't, but not here. The writing was terrible, the characters - well they had no character. Sum up who they are in the sentence. I'm trying, but I can't. Nuer: cute immature brat who has no boundaries. That's the best I can come up with. Sun: attractive man who is good at academics who lets things happen to him.

Is there more than that? WHAT do they like about each other? Nuea says it was because of an accidental kiss. So he couldn't even see his face but he knew he liked him? I guess because he felt how hard his body is and likes muscles? And I can see knew reason why Sun likes Nuea other than the obvious physical reasons.

And the change in Sun was even more sudden than Tue in the previous story, where at least the pair had a lot of bonding, common interests, and a clear and strong mutual attraction.

These two had zero chemistry until the last scene - for the rest of the story Sun was leaning as far from Nuea as possible and looking uncomfortable, and to be honest, I'm not sure these were the best types of roles for these actors.

Nuea wasn't even really effeminate - he just dressed that way, so it's like they were afraid to go all the way, Nat was able to pull off those looks, but it didn't feel natural or "fabulous" like if it were Gun (Green in 2gether), Poppy, or Ohm Pawat, who would have probably killed several people with the mesh shirt and fur outfit.

Consent love? Nuea was all over a clearly unwilling Sun for 1.5 episodes. It doesn't matter if his suspected Sun liked him - Sun didn't say he did, and it was inappropriate to be that aggressive. Also, Sun rubbed his face all over Nuea's when he was sleeping, which isn't consent.

This was terrible - I guess the acctors really needed the money, because I would have walked away from such a shallow and incoherent script.

I had no problem wiyh Nuea's clothing (except that some of it was too big for him), I had a problem with the bad writing, lack of coherent character development, and the total lack of substance to their relationship, reducing it to a physical attraction and nothing else.

Quantity of tropes does matter. It's like when someone is a noisy eater - I can tolerate it for a short while, then I lose my appetite or start feeling homicidal thoughts (not really).

I'm right there with you. I used to have a 3-ep rule, but now I'm using a 3-min rule. There are way too many BLs out and the quality seems to be declining overall. This one has enough in it to hold me, mainly what Kai looks like shirtless and the chemistry of the main pair.

"I'm not gay, I only love_______". They both said it - a new low. Hopefully next ep will focus more on the brothers, because Li Cheng & Mu Ren are unadulterated paint-by-hte-numbers yaoi and their story has become so predictable that it's boring to me.

Before, I thought they might take it in new directions, but as usual, everything veers to the conventional halfway through and one of the characters in the pair suddenly transmutes from a strong independent person into a Victorian girl. It's only a matter of time before Xing Si starts packing Yong Jie's lunches and faints every other episode.

Still thought I was talking to someone else. Sorry - he loves TOATS. I was going to give it a seven after ep 8 & 9 but it partially redeemed itself in the last ep, so I think a 9. But maybe I'll give it an 8.5 just for you.

Sorry, when I responded to this I was very tired and in my mind I confused you with "the blocked guy". Don't hurt me. You can probaby see that my response would make more sense if it were addressed to him.

TOATS was good for the acting, mostly from Earth. The rest of the acting was good, but not on his level. The story was very conventional, other than not being about engineering students for once, and full of tropes.

My point was that Li Cheng has been just as aggressive and transgressive as Yong Jie and I was pointing out the hypocrisy of condemning one and loving the other - obviously that doesn't apply to you.

I don't have any problem with anything anyone in this show is doing, and I'd have to think about it to decide if this or Call It What You Want is the best thing on right now. I would have said this until this ep, where it took a bad turn for the worse for me - not because of anyone's behavior, but because of the fallback on the most tired tropes in the genre - it seems to have abandoned the darker more psycological tone it had before.

I don't have any particular issue with fujoshis in BL - it just depends on the individual character. This one is cute and matters to the plot. The one in Oxygen was so irritating that I had to FF through any scene she was in.

If you look at the line of acceptance of gay equality in Asia, it's taken a huge leap pretty much everywhere in the last 2-3 years - I think a lot of that is thanks to fujoshis.

Pretty much all BL is stil yaoi - that isn't going to change quickly, and some of the tropes in it probably never. Until this ep it was avoiding the worst of them, but they pulled out their checklist.

There's only ONE episode left. There is no way they can resolve all this without dropping most of the other things going on. Unless this was conceived to be more than one season, I think we're not going to be satisfied with the ending.

Have you been drinking?

Anyway, I actually quite like this series - the two leads are good, and if the color is washed out and yellow on purpose it does lend a feeling of aridity and poverty. If they would tone down the social commentary, (or at least limit it to one or two issues social issues instead of all of them, I'd like it even more. With only 6 episodes, it's irritating when all the farm workers are standing around talking about social issues instead of the plot moving forward, and maybe showing us issues instead of telling us about them.

While trans characters are treated a little better than usual in this series, they're still exploited for comic relief and none of them have substantial roles to play in the story, other than that they're keeping everyone from starving because all the farm workers are trans, which I have to grant is something new.

Lots and lots of roosters. People can be sitting in a classroom at college and there are still roosters. People are at work in an office tower, still roosters. I think I might have heard a rooster crow in a car scene. I presume one was chasing them, or maybe they keep one in the back seat. Just in case a rooster is required. Which is apparently for almost everything.

Also, there are gay characters. That's why a lot of fans of Thai BLs don't like Filipino BLs - BL is romance between straight guys. Also, Filipino BL characters occassionally touch and behave as if they're attracted to each other. Thai BL characters stand around staring into each other's eyes for awkwardly long periods, and the bottom accuses the top (and there is always a strict division between bottom and top) of being a pervert if he wants sex, even if they're in a relationship. I'm exaggerating, but it's largely true.

So far, though - this is following a semi-Thai pattern (only semi because they had sex offscreen) with tons and tons (and more tons) of social issues thrown in.

In both, anyone who is rich is corrupt and evil, with the exception of parents of main characters, when it's only 50/50. But if they're not evil, they're unduly controlling.

I ran it a few times and hit like, but I don't know what else I can do. He needs to appeal - it's possible.

I went over there to see what was going on because you brought it up here, and I couldn't believe it. Holy cow, the strongest disagreements here are so mild and intellectual compared to whatever that place is supposed to be - nobody knows what a sentence is, or an actual reasoned argument - they're Lord of the Flies and loyal to whatever their boy of the month is. Their version of argument is to hurl strange insults at people without really addressing their points. I'm apparently a '"coward" for not jumping into the pit of psychopaths - I have to many better things to do, like discussing BLs with you and everyone here!

I certainly agree with that!