Exactly. He changed his personality so quickly that I became confused about what exactly happened. At first, I…
You mean the guy who works at the cafe? I didn't notice a personality change - he was with a friend on the blanket - a safe place, and he was move lively because he was being tickled. Later he's moody because he's being bullied and suffering from unrequited love. He's my second favorite character after the one he's in love with.
It's pretty clear she's encouraging Jun & Jun to get together, so it's clearly not a real relationship.
Why does he owe anyting to Lee Jun at this point? If he tries to pursue a relationship with him, he needs to tell him, but I see no reason why he should right now, and also, we have no idea what she meant by that. I had a girlfriend where we joked about being affianced because we'd said we'd get married if we couldn't find good men. I never really thought that was something I was obligated to share with people I was dating.
First and Khao have an amazing chemistry. Don’t know why you would say otherwise.
Part of it is they end up playing the same couple over and over. That's one of the problems with permanent pairs - you never really recapture the magic. But look at Neo and Mark - fresh couple, searing hot. Or in Not Me, when First was paired with Gawin - you need new combinations or it gets stale.
First & Khao aren't bad, by any means, they're just a little underwhelming.
Wow. I was expecting Neo & Mark to be hot, but that was just fire all the way. Still not sure about Book & Force - Force has "it", but for some reason the pair never really combusts. To be fair, after Neo & Drake and Neo & Mark the bar was sky-high. How about Drake & Force? That would heat things up. I even liked First & Khaotung. Not that I ever don't, but they usually aren't my favorite.
This is so cute. These guys are not afraid to show affection - especially Yang I Hsuan. The black ribbon scene was too much - I love it. I hope they're not just teasing us with that. You just know Bu Xia would love getting spanked. I wonder if they'll ever explain the ghost thing.
This is surprisingly good - the first season has nothing to do with this, which is a good thing. The writing is complex, the characters are realistic and varied, and I'm kind of excited about it.
I like that they're not all the usual archetypes and it isn't stuffed with cliches and tropes.
I like the guy who was trying to show everyone his muscles. So cute.
I do not find this confusing which seems to be the popular gripe thus far. The couples were paired for you by…
I don't find it confusing either. It was a little at first because there are so many attractive men on this, but once you realize the main couple is both in the present and in flashback it makes more sense.
It feels like scenes filmed or written were cut. Like either a budget issue or something. Like it feels like there…
Even if there aren't cut scenes, there must certainly be written scenes that weren't included because I think you're 100% right - there is a lot that seems missing. I don't mind when a story doesn't immediately fill in the blanks and lets us find things out gradually, but to a point.
If this were real gay men they'd be f$%ing 6 times a day in a janitorial closet by now.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with the seducing. They barely spoke to each other and CJ did…
I totally disagree about the fiance. It's 100% clear (at least to me - I have been known to be wrong) that they do not have a romantic relationship and she's openly shipping J & J. LJ is not CJ's second choice, he's his only choice, and always has been.
You're jumping to a lot of conclusions and judgment based on a single toss-away sentence that we've received zero context for.
Wedding plan has the opposite problem, where it's clear from the beginning that it's a fake engagement, but it's been drawn out so long that it's almost impossible to see Lom as anything but an asshole.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with the seducing. They barely spoke to each other and CJ did…
Oh, I'm sorry - I see what you're saying. I was thining entirely of Ep 4 where not much of that happened - he was more aggressive in earlier episodes. I would agree that in the "take it off" scene he was over the line. For soft vs squishy, we'd have to understand what the original Korean is - I can't believe the original was that weird. I think, but I'm not sure, that there's a suggestion that CJ's Korean is meant ot be a little deficient because he's been in the US for 10 years.
I didn't really blame him for the "help me out" scene because it wasn't his fault LJ fell on him - LJ is an uke, and it's a good day when they can get through it not tripping at least once and getting a fever from a raindrop touching them. Getting... excited is also not something he can control (you can, but it takes concentation and thinking about old nuns and dead puppies - but very, very difficult if someone you're attracted to is in your lap and not really sitting still). He didn't mean that he wanted LJ to get him off, he wanted LJ to get off him - I didn't mind the double entendre, although it's getting old - the writer needs a new trick.
Societally, sexualized banter between men is not as creepy as if a man were speaking that way to a woman, although until LJ recognized him, it's over the line because you'd only talk that way to someone close, not a coworker (and especially a boss) that you've just met.
I think the central problem is that while I feel CJ's attraction to LJ, we haven't really been given much reason to feel LJ is interested. We know that he thinks CJ is hot, but we've been given no sign that he's interested in pursuing anything with him. That would probably be fine for an episode especially when it was revealed who CJ is, but after 4 episodes we need some heat from LJ - even if you don't find the double-meanings creepy, CJ is in a position of power over LJ, and if not disturbing, it's tiresome and repetitive and doesn't lead anywhere.
What would work would be gradually escalating aggression from CJ that's matched by LJ being increasingly hot for him. CJ's intensity is roughly level, and so is LJ's resistance, and frankly, the actor is not really giving us much subtlety or a view into his emotions other than being freaked out.
And I'm pretty clear about my loathing for writers using alcohol to advance the plot, which is so cliched and such lazy writing that my enthusiasm for the series took a steep dive. I liked the opening scene, and I liked the last scene, but the rest was pointless and boring.
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First & Khao aren't bad, by any means, they're just a little underwhelming.
I like that they're not all the usual archetypes and it isn't stuffed with cliches and tropes.
I like the guy who was trying to show everyone his muscles. So cute.
If this were real gay men they'd be f$%ing 6 times a day in a janitorial closet by now.
You're jumping to a lot of conclusions and judgment based on a single toss-away sentence that we've received zero context for.
Where I have an issue is that while there's no context, there's also no point. It's episode four, LJ doesn't know she's CJ's fiancée, and it's too late in the story to introduce a major plot element - it might not be important, but if you have a fiancee with whom you have a real relationship, that's obviously important, and if you have one that's just a friend, the situation that led to that must be important too.
Wedding plan has the opposite problem, where it's clear from the beginning that it's a fake engagement, but it's been drawn out so long that it's almost impossible to see Lom as anything but an asshole.
I didn't really blame him for the "help me out" scene because it wasn't his fault LJ fell on him - LJ is an uke, and it's a good day when they can get through it not tripping at least once and getting a fever from a raindrop touching them. Getting... excited is also not something he can control (you can, but it takes concentation and thinking about old nuns and dead puppies - but very, very difficult if someone you're attracted to is in your lap and not really sitting still). He didn't mean that he wanted LJ to get him off, he wanted LJ to get off him - I didn't mind the double entendre, although it's getting old - the writer needs a new trick.
Societally, sexualized banter between men is not as creepy as if a man were speaking that way to a woman, although until LJ recognized him, it's over the line because you'd only talk that way to someone close, not a coworker (and especially a boss) that you've just met.
I think the central problem is that while I feel CJ's attraction to LJ, we haven't really been given much reason to feel LJ is interested. We know that he thinks CJ is hot, but we've been given no sign that he's interested in pursuing anything with him. That would probably be fine for an episode especially when it was revealed who CJ is, but after 4 episodes we need some heat from LJ - even if you don't find the double-meanings creepy, CJ is in a position of power over LJ, and if not disturbing, it's tiresome and repetitive and doesn't lead anywhere.
What would work would be gradually escalating aggression from CJ that's matched by LJ being increasingly hot for him. CJ's intensity is roughly level, and so is LJ's resistance, and frankly, the actor is not really giving us much subtlety or a view into his emotions other than being freaked out.
And I'm pretty clear about my loathing for writers using alcohol to advance the plot, which is so cliched and such lazy writing that my enthusiasm for the series took a steep dive. I liked the opening scene, and I liked the last scene, but the rest was pointless and boring.