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I honestly have no idea what you're talking about with the seducing. They barely spoke to each other and CJ did absolutely nothing to try to seduce him except bringing him cake. Is it creepy to bring someone cake? Are you talking about Hyun Jae who kept wiping LJ's mouth?

It's pretty clear she's encouraging Jun & Jun to get together, so it's clearly not a real relationship.

I'm glad to have been of service! Most people just think I'm mean.

The moms are so exaggerated, like how the dramatic music fires up when they enter the room, that I think we're meant not to take them entirely seriously. But I get where you're coming from.

You know what's the most ridiculous and unbelievable thing about this series? It's that their someplace where there is Thai food literally everywhere and yet they're eating at McDonald's. It's like going to the Uffizi Gallery to look at the toilets.

Anyway, I was enjoying this series until this episode. You know what's not fun to watch? People sighing and moping for an hour while nothing whatsoever happens, Until the last 10 seconds when about 8 episodes' worth happened out of nowhere.

The writing is lazy - the overheard conversation, the stupid and implausible misunderstanding that could be cleared up with no effort. USE YOUR WORDS. It's that simple. "My marriage to Yiwa is fake - we're both gay." Under 10 words. It wouldn't satisfy Nuea, but it would get him to listen.

And the drunkenness. ENOUGH ALREADY. The entire stable of Thai BL writers has three tricks up their sleeves and then they have no idea what to do.

If Sunny didn't look so f@#$ing good in clothes and even better out of them, I'd be out of here. Nuea is a good character - as a side character, not a lead. He doesn't have the gravitas or appeal a main character needs. He's inconsistent, one minute determined to have nothing more to do with Lom, then almost immediatlely fu@#$ing him. Well, being f@#$ed by him, which is quite an achievement when you're falling down drunk, which BL writers don't seem to have any idea about.

Maybe they're Kharens.

I don't think it's that simple. Marine agreed to be in a relationship with Yiwa knowing about the marriage, and I'm not sure why it's that awful for Yiwa and Lom to marry to satisfy their families and society. People have had to do that for thousands of years.

I wouldn't care at all if I were Marine - if we mutually agreed to have the relationship under those circumstances, then all I need is the partner to remain faithful, except for procreating. But even for that you don't need to have intercourse anymore. If they honestly present the situation, it's up to Marine and Nuea to accept it or refuse.

What they're doing isn't selfish. They're trying to spare their families. Why on earth would they suffer this situation if they didn't feel they had to? It's like saying being gay is a choice. On paper it seems correctfor everything to be out in the open, but until you've been in the situation it's hard to understand the fear and pressure you're dealing with. Assuming this isn't a magical BL homophobia-free society, they're in a conservative culture where they'd be ruined and their families humiliated if they were to just be openly gay.

I do agree it's cowardly, though - I understand why they're doing it, but unless their families are looking the other way as long as appearances are kept, there is no way you can keep secret from your family that you have a romantic partner. And even if they're going along with it, as celebrities I don't think it's possible to hide it long-term either.

One thing we can probably agree on, though, is Lom is an asshole for the way he's been to Nuea - I can see not telling him at first because he didn't know him - but by Ep 2 he should have told him, and even putting that aside, the way he was teasing Nuea about a work situation and stressing him out so badly is not cool.

Wow, I wasn't sure after the 1st ep, but the second was stellar. The pacing was so much better and I could get immersed.

OK, so the second couple: do you think they were... borderline creepy on purpose, or was it the acting? The bartender/dad has the oddest look on his face, and the other guy didn't really look like he wanted to be kissed. Even though they had sex and the first couple didn't do anything, I felt the first couple's sizzle way more.

I could watch this faster if it weren't for the awful teacher/idol - I only take him in doses of 30 or so seconds. The actor is doing a spectacular job of making him loathesome. He's managing it without being OTT - just one of the banal psychopaths that plague the world.

It does get old.

I agree - there would be no point to it in the last scene. It's just that it was the third time we see him running across the city in a short period and it was unintentionally funny. If he'd only done it the last time, it would have had impact.

I'd say a few seconds. The ten years he spent searching the world were wasted, but the horrendous coincidence that Ren just happened to work where he got a job was indeed fortunate.

I feel bad now because I'm older than the Sanada actor. It's funny how self-perception doesn't keep up with reality.

I think you're right about all of this, though - it's too bad it wasn't a longer series to explore issues in greater depth.

I really like Jun & Jun, partly because the lead is incredibly attractive and I'm shallow, but it's enjoyable beyond that. I think it's well done and has some good humor in it.

For me, Korean BLs are hit and miss, but it feels like there's improvement. I'm actually souring on Thai BL. There are still good ones, but a lot of them feel like formulaic cash-grabs.

And not a scratch on him. The choreography of the fight was poor, with people just standing around doing nothing. He more or less drowned that one guy and nobody intervened. Sure, not letting somoene have a cup of water is a great reason to drown them, why not? Not that he knew who did that, so why not just pick a random person to assault?

If Su Yu had been in danger, sure, I could get behind that. He wasn't. He was safe and fine. Wu Bi is a psycho - that's not normal behavior.

Big athletic guys, sure, not a skinny boy.

Theres's an expression in American - I don't know if the British have it - "jumping the shark". It comes from a sitcom that was getting old, and to spice it up they had the main character, who rides a motorcycle, jump it over sharks. It's so ridiculous that it's impossible to take anything seriously anymore.

The scene where Wu Bi, a skinny little teenager, takes on an army of trained grown men and has no trouble subduing them, is jumping the shark. Even if you believe a boy who never works out or practices martial arts could do that, Wu Bi should be in prison, or at least a mental hospital. People are on the lookout for the smallest thing to start running around shouting "toxic! toxic!" have no problem with brutal violence against employees of a man who allowed someone to be out in the rain? That's completely mental and inexcusable. And of course nobody did anything when he was drowning the guard.

Especially given the way he manhandled Su Yu in anger, it's only a matter of time before he hurts him.

If they do it with the team captain this will be my favorite BL ever.

It was a nice change from the usual binge-drinking drunkenness to loosen him up. He's smart - he accumplished what he needed to without having to throw out his back giving him a piggy-back ride back to their room.