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She is a strong person. She is very kind to people and she only took the bullying at work, but otherwise she wasn't a pushover in any other way. And at work, it can make sense why because of what happened in her first or second day at work, and also just because she just doesn't want to make a fuss. She's worked for years dealing community complaints and handling them, and that's not an easy job. She has to be stern and polite even while getting yelled at, chewed etc. She wasn't meek or feeble. That is a tough job and she's excelled in it even if she wasn't appreciated for it as she should have been.

And she was giving snark to SY making sharp retorts from the start (not counting the first shrine encounter).

(She also has to have a strong mindset and confidence in order to go through with what she's decided to go through, knowing what she'll be subjected to.)

Don't think it was YWS who faked the letter about Infinite Fire, but it can be possible that she knew going in that GZY would become successor, which means that someone high up knew what was brewing in the Hills, even if others in WuFeng didn't. HYS knew she was more capable in abilities than her rank, but they kept it to themselves. However, it's possible that some others may have also become aware of it despite HYS/YWS' best efforts.

Granted, I've stayed away from this page after all the episodes dropped last week, so I don't know if you're the only one who's said this about YWS. But I am certain that you're definitely one of the few. It's possible the letter was really from HYS, but she was made aware of her sister----that being the real hold WuFeng had over her--at some point between the bridal switch and a her arriving to the bridal party/group. HYS would not have been aware of her new knowledge, and she also wouldn't have been aware of the Fortnight Flies and YQ, but she was still beholden to WuFeng. it's not clear whether she decided to screw over WuFeng along the way, or stuck mostly to the plan, or kind of did both (i.e stuck to the plan while also trying to screw Wufeng). WuFeng actually gained some upper-hand in the fact that Gongs took a loss that in the end was so unnecessary.

It should also be said YWS actually gained knowledge of the antidotes to YZ's poisons, which SGQ and WuFeng couldn't access. But YWS gained access to the antidotes and either may have sent the info or will give the info now that she's gotten out of Gong territory. Of course YZ will probably change his poisons as well in time; however what was compromised by YZ through SGQ's trick was hardly going to matter without the antidotes. Even the new hidden weapons didn't work because WuFeng used magnets to make them unusable. So knowledge of YZ's poisons and antidote would be very valuable to WuFeng for their own uses.

GSJ and YZ already knew SGQ took the hidden weapons and it probably was compromised, but they had no proof. The reason YZ got new Hidden Weapons was because GZY, after learning about YWS and SGQ spy status, took the initiative as SW to order new hidden weapons for YZ. GSJ and YZ could not do anything earlier, because even though they knew they were compromised, they neither had evidence nor power to correct it. .

YWS is much more skilled than SGQ and yet she is supposedly much more careless than SGQ in gradually slipping up multiple times, even before she was revealed due to Yue.

All this is also the reason the director was never going to have a set ending. He wouldn't dare to clarify this aspect for fear of angering fans.

I don't dislike JK, but he basically gaslighted SY into doubting and disbelieving what SY correctly knew to be the case. JK's actions--as someone not involved, in touch, or aware of the powers around him-- are logical and sensible.

However, the 'truth' JK convinced SY and HJ is not the truth, and the person most affected by the gaslighting was SY. SY's actions shouldn't be viewed through JK's supposed 'truth.'

Now if JK is somehow aware of their past lives, then it makes him culpable for pulling that stunt knowingly--even if he did it with best intentions to prevent hurt for HJ.

Mine too so far

This is a really good short-series. It's not cringey in the couple's scenes (the cringe aspect of the comic plot is acknowledged), and because it's in a comic-world things like quick scene/setting change, weird wedding day/venue shenanigans etc etc, they all work within the story. There's really no second hand embarrassment, etc.

I may actually watch this again when I'm bored.

I also really like the two main leads here. They are a change and refreshing in their looks.

Drinking a glass by mistake is not the same. If you are just going to say that is the same as telling her to take responsibility, then there's little to say here.

I only pointed out what you said at first--that he wasn't sure it worked or not. He was sure it worked. And it was only because of JK that he became persuaded that it didn't work.

From the start of this drama there were also people attacking/criticizing HJ for what she did and her perceived callous response at not caring about the consequences of her actions. She reacted from her place, he from his.

Again, if you keep equating drinking a glass of water next to him to what she she did--then there's really no point in debating/arguing this. So I'm really done here.

Drinking a glass of water from the wrong side is not the same thing as what SJ did. She did what she did and I have defended her state of mind when she started the spell and that when carried it out, she didn't even really believe it.

But you can't blame him for drinking a glass of water that was next to him. Yeah okay, it was JK's. So? This happens sometimes where someone takes the wrong bottle, glass, drinks from someone else's cup etc.

HJ however wasn't thinking about the consequences. Of course, I believe his responsibility is in that he's the one who gave her the box and was after her to open it.

Anyway, my point is simply that this is a fantasy with supernatural elements, with curses and spells. He's grown up with it and heard of it his entire life. So he definitely knew and blamed the potion for his actions. And from his perspective at that time, it makes sense for his character and it is also understandable on how he blamed her for it.

Anyway, after this I will just be repeating the same thing. So I will end it here.

He truly believed it. And the whole setting of the drama is about past lives, a shaman, a curse, and spells. So, yeah in the world of the drama and for SY it isn't something that is impossible. Nor has the drama ever actually shown and said that the spells don't work.

Just because the characters are now going back and forth whether the spell worked doesn't mean the spell didn't have an effect. This drama is set in a fantasy, supernatural setting. Now HJ is more and more believing in this world, she sees that it exists.

SY himself was the most firm believer that the potion worked, because of how he's dealt with the legend of the curse in his family, knowing the shaman, and also the red hand.

He was forced to 'accept' that the spell didn't work by mostly JK because the test spell was fair skin spell, which was a not the best test-spell. His actions follow a trajectory, so when he was forced to doubt and blame his neurological issues is when he was more adamant that the spells and curses didn't work whenever HJ suggested that they did.

When he was blaming HJ for the potion, he was absolutely sure it worked. It was actually due to JK and his influence that both SY and HJ stopped believing that the love spell had worked.

This is somewhat true, but YWS herself was also a spy with a mission, so I don't know why/how/what she deserved more.

Yeah. Older K-Dramas often had ML or FL tied to a relationship that wasn't 'love.' Many times the other party was a villain, few times other party is just as keen and happy to end it whenever the right time comes.

Personally, I do find the whole 'convenience/arranged/status relationships are not love or true love' a lazy and even unrealistic trope just to please romantic-story telling. But it is what it is.

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There's no romance tag, so can somone confirm there is little to no romance? I want to watch some thing in the thriller and mystery genre but without romance.

I just finished watching episode 8, and I have to say the actor playing Ma Cheng Jun stole the show. He's hilarious.

Ahh, yes. That too. Good that it made a comeback. XD

I am not saying to diss on episode 10 or belittle it, but rather appreciating the humor

The best part of the episode for me was the Haum Construction Ceo's laugh at NY's remark.

Yeah, i can understand her being irrationally annoyed at this because of all the other legitimate grievances and bs she is dealing with.

Omg, didn't even realize that. Now that you said it, i know exactly which character without looking it up. He is more tanned here, and maybe skinnier snd slimmer face.

He only found out about SY/HJ when SY showed up drunk. They had been 'hanging out' before that. He rejected her because he had issues with family and never really seriously thought about it.

But after the rejection was made public, he explained to her, talked with her, and then turned out they became neighbors.

So they were having pre-date hangouts before he came to know of SY and her.

No doubt seeing SY made decide to be proactive, but as SY himself said, JK did like her.

As far as we've seen, he didn't drink the potion. He definitely didn't drink it from the glass.

Could be, but he looked surprised to see them both together though? And why would she be upset he came if she's the one that called him? It could be that maybe while he left to take her call, another call came through about NY.