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But I agree they wanted to create drama and could've been much better executed.

Are you sure she can only three more days? I think it means once her life is over his stars would give her life, and he would lose either his life or one of his lives?

Now it may be that her life is sustained by the dark force...perhaps... so no need to use his star life-force?

So okay, he doesn't have to tell YH before stabbing her. He doesn't have to tell her he gave her the Nine Stars. But WHY didn't he tell her along with the 'sorry' that he'll be back after saving the kids to return the HPS to her.

Before watching Ep 17 I thought, maybe his plan was to cut ties with her, so he figured let there be misunderstanding and she'll go her own way. But no, as soon as he comes back, he's looking for her. Like, even if you think you might die, why not account for that fact that you might not and let her know you'll return it when you come back. And if you die, you die, that's that.

He knows BXY is also there, and that BXY has ties to the dark Lord. Which makes his actions even more stupid.

Edit. Copying and pasting a comment of mine from from thread to say another possibility came to mind.

Actually, it occurred to me that he may be reacting in seeing HXY on the ground and realizing BXY took her to the dark lord. He never thought about that possibility....which okay, he was emotional didn't think that much... but still man...

I think the issue with the drama is they should make his motivation and thinking clear, which they are not doing so. I do think they planned episode 16 that way specifically to get an online uproar.

I don't get one stupid decision by TY/script.

This guy really is not different from SY in how he goes after TY. Like the dude knows it's TY's scale, and likely knows of TY's dismemberment, but he is going after TY for taking back what was taken from him and calling him evil dragon when he of course would never dare say that to SY or her actions.

What TY did to YH is wrong from the perspective of their relationship and trust, but really in terms of outsiders who are in no position to judge--it's sort of a draw. Like YH said, it was really his scale, and for that she's not angry at him about that aspect and considers them even. It's more the betrayal the her perceived unimportance to him that she's upset about. Of course she wants to live, and the fact that she almost died. But again, she considers it even with TY because she points out that it was his scale taken wrongfully from him in the first place.

Like, yes, taking her scale would mean death and LX would need to avenge her death as her father figure or whatever, but dude....you are not in anyway in some superior position here. What do you expect, like that it's simply okay to dismember a dragon scale and it's righteous to be protecting the scale and keeping it from its rightful owner?

Gah. Anyway he's not dead...better for YH. But otherwise, don't really care.

So I know it probably won't be a popular sentiment, but I don't really feel bad about Ling Xiao and to be honest didn't care if it was permanent or not.

Actually, regarding YH's relationship with LX...if she had such a strong bond/attachment to LX, the story as till now would not be able to happen. Also I don't know, it's hard to say...her crush, respect, etc, etc, all got rolled into one, so it probably is healthier for there to be a distance. Still..... she could still think of him to herself as 'shifu' instead of Ling Xiao...

Yeah, I won't argue against the things you are saying. My comment does say in terms of TY I feel that it's a good change. Regarding YH, I feel like we have to see what happens in the later episodes to have a good understanding/handling.

Going to reply more so in a random manner, putting down some thoughts.

There were two arcs I cried in the novel. One was Pu Fang's arc, even though she was stupid and careless going against YH's specific warnings. The other was the punishment arc and then what happened at the end of that arc. As I was reading I was like, dude...how do you move past this. How is it possible to move on and have a love-story after this? Of course as is life, once revenge is completed one moves on, and YH explains it to after Ling Xiao's final battle TY and maybe to even novel readers like myself when she tells him not to worry and she will move on.

In a way that has been transferred to TY right now. What I felt about how YH could move on from it, is what TY is feeling about how he can go on and live and love again. It's not just that he was betrayed, but that tied to that his clan members died, and now again their child(ren) too.

One thing about the punishment arc....they have downplayed Ling Xiao's role in YH. In a way I understand because the novel made it so that she has a crush on him. It was never meant to mount to anything but I think they played it completely safe in the drama and kind of went overboard. For instance, YH in her head keeps referring to LX by his name instead of 'shifu'--they could've kept her still holding him as 'shifu' without making it seem like a crush or romantic. So I don't know how they are going to portray the punishment arc and whether it will have same emotional impact.

Read the exchange between you and @lizzarie as well. And I do agree with her in that they have made YH an integral part and it was a strong partnership until he got the horns back. Once he got the horns, it does, as you say, become lopsided till now, and we will have to see how the rest plays out to see the power dynamics.

I think he wasn't able to take the sword because he always planned on eventually taking the HPS somehow, even if he was growing more and more weary of doing so. The sword flew to him when he gave up his Nine Stars in order to protect her and keep her alive even if/when he has to take the HPS.

I haven't watched the latest (today's) episode nor read all the comments. But saw a few spoiler comments explaining a trailer for episode 27 and it kind of confirms my suspicion on TY's ability to take the sword.

Damn. This is long. Anyway, will have to see how the rest of the drama goes. But I do hope they keep BXS platonic in how he interacts with YH. It's okay if he caught feelings but don't really need to see him rejected or moping or what not. He can keep it to himself and work through it and then keep it platonic. Please... hoping.

So I'm going to write something down which I've been thinking for quite a while, but first I wanted to see how the HPS scenario which was in trailers would play out. So now I'm going to write it out.

A few days before the drama aired, I saw some video that said the author wasn't really as satisfied with the novel as it was one of her earlier works and that she would include some other ideas into the drama. And my feeling was that I felt the novel was much better than one of her later works, Cang and Orchid. I would say Heart Protection is pretty good and Cang and Orchid is decent enough.

But anyway seeing Tian Yao in the drama I've been feeling that the drama addresses something that was actually a point which would at times nag at me in the novel, but it was also something that was part of Tian Yao's characterization and obviously part of the story and something I accepted. But the drama changed that, and I am not going to say it's a bad change. In fact in terms of Tian Yao's character it's a good change, and it makes TY such an endearing character in the drama.

In the novel Tian Yao didn't really care about anything going on other than his cultivation before he met SY, then later his recovering his body/revenge, then YH. He was not a bad guy, he was just neutral and would go along with the flow. Even when he protected those near him during the Xian-demon war and afterwards, it wasn't an active protection. It was more like, no one would bother to fight him, so the demons would seek protection near him and he allowed it. He of course was personable to the people and wasn't mean and even made friends. Making conversation and comparing cultivation techniques and helping others with their cultivation. But it was all within the framework of a passive, static dealing with his environment.

Later after he recovers his soul and meets YH, I think there was some passage of him thinking to himself that no matter how wrong it is not care about what happens to others, he has to deal with his own matters and revenge. I think there was something like this when he was still in the village with YH.

And after he falls in love with YH, even then, he really doesn't care about anything else. He joins the war because it is needed and beneficial. Not really for the sake of demons or peace or anything like that. When YH dies, he is about to just give up and kill himself not bothering about consequences until he is given YH's last words to live on in order to remember her. This is all good for people who are romance lovers I guess, and that's who his character was, but... it does leave something to be desired. And this is coming from me who really liked and enjoyed the novel and wouldn't use this as a negative point of the novel. Because like I said, that was always his character.

(There is one part where YH realizes that TY is very trusting and open to the one he loves and that's how SY was able to attack him and also how YH is able to trick him into illusion in order to give back his neidan. But again, that's only to the one he loves. Overall to the world in general, towards his fellow demons, he is a friend/ally only as it happens and as circumstances allow--he is not really a defender or one with strong convictions.)

And towards the end, when they go into the history of the Xian-demon war 50 years ago, it's actually kind of subtly alluded and hinted that it wouldn't have come to the current situation if he had joined the war back then. Again this is never said, but it's a logical conclusion when told that QG couldn't have defeated TY back then and needed all this time to get stronger.

In the drama you see very early on that TY even though he wants to retrieve his body and get revenge and starts out plotting and cunning, as he continues on, he still gives into his innate nature of helping others. Earlier he was the protector of Dragon Valley. Later you see little instances of his empathy, helping out others he feels are weaker and/or wronged, hurt, or in worse off position than he. It's was a change I picked up on, and makes his character so endearing. Then comes his scene in Dragon Valley where we see his guilt and vow to avenge the deaths.

This TY is a different character because it really is not all about him but also about those who depended on him and those he feels he has a duty towards. In the novel he had no such obligations. So I actually appreciate this change.

Yes. XD

Do you have any guesses as to what those colourful things were in Ep 4 (I wrote episode 2 by mistake earlier)

Yeah, I thought that too but he specifically said that her mortal body wouldn't withstand it.

Yes, that's one aspect I thought about but forgot to add. It could be that, since like I said, I considered that possibility. lol.

Yeah, I remember him falling asleep, still that was at/near the mountaintop. While this time, they went through Dragon Valley where they encountered all the elves, then went to the snowy mountain. Anyway... yeah...

TY said YH's mortal body wouldn't be able to withstand the journey to the sword because of SY's spell and the elements. I have a few questions. When he initially went there, did he go through Dragon Valley and the elves didn't see him, or did he take another route?

And why was YH able to follow TY to the sword this time? Is SY's spell gone now since the sword was taken away once?

Guys. I have a question about Ep 4. What were those floating spirits TY was looking at while he and YH were resting against a tree and YH was sleeping?

Also question about Ep 14 sword/Dragon Valley

Yup. One of the things I really appreciate about this drama.

Also the fact that DG2.0 in first episode allowed LSS to go back in time.

He never took it out. She sacrificed herself without him knowing in order to give him back the neidan (which isn't in the drama or at least not yet) and when she died what was left was heart scale, which her friend who was with her gave to him. YH's last words to relay to TY was that she will come back to him and to wait for her and stay alive to remember her so she can come back to him. From then the heart scale/neidan isn't an issue because she has reincarnated and doesn't need it in her new body. So he has it back for good.

I don't know if drama will go same route.