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DM is absolutely telling the truth about DG's words. Because in the end there is the prophesy that is yet to come. People just don't want to believe it because this drama lays out something uncomfortable most people don't want to address. If one side can foresee things, so can the other side.

Why is it easy to accept that one side can plan things out and guide things a certain way, but difficult to accept the other side also can?

Don't know if you've seen this by now. But this is Ep 33
https://kisskh.at/693513-hei-yue-guang-wen-na-be-ju-ben#comment-13083501

Weird. That message has come up for me sometimes. But I've always refreshed and it loads up fine, would have to get back to place where you left off. But yeah...

Hope it works for you again at some point.

Only DG is aware of his full plan. SY referenced that twice. 1) When she found out CJM is the devil-fetus and decided to leave the fight. 2) Telling CJM-disguise-DG that only DG knows of any flaw in his plan.

I have no doubt that DG was aware and guiding things along just as JZZ/MY were. But DM doesn't know everything.

The same way JZ could foresee certain things so can DG. It was shown from the start that DG 2.0 allowed LSS to go back in time. The question was if DG 500 years back was aware. But if JZ can be aware across timelines so can DG. It's not that surprising. It was hinted many times in the drama, I picked up on it.

DM may be embellishing for his own purposes. But what SY referenced twice is telling and important.

"His lordship's plan is abstruse."

And SY telling CJM that only DG knows the flaws, weakness in the plan.

What this means is that whatever DM thinks he knows, only DG knows DG's full plan.

I think what is confusing people is that line "I don't want you to know I am Sang Jiu." But someone had posted the actual line in Chinese characters, and said it just means something like 'I can't let you know who I am yet.'

It doesn't even matter that China was never going to allow TTJ to be sadistic/masochistic. It makes a better story if that's not who he is. I mean, what is the conflict except for some sort of psycho love if TTJ was a sadist person who only ends up changing in the end. That is the genre of the novel for a specific audience.

Also, I feel like the complaints TTJ isn't evil enough in drama so LSS comes off looking as bad is essentially saying TTJ should be the bad/evil one and because he's not, LSS doesn't come off as justified.

Ignoring the fact that most of her actions are indeed explained and understood, what that does is just say TTJ should be the bad guy and LSS should be the one justifiably opposing the bad guy. TTJ being the bad guy ML is okay, LSS can act accordingly and justifiable. But TTJ being a good guy with tragic fate and LSS doing some cruel necessary thing--is not acceptable. Only TTJ being a cruel, sadistic ML can be acceptable.

Yeah. In the first episode itself some asked why DG let SuSu go and it was explained he wanted to change the fate. But I think what the novel had was that TTJ in DG wanted to change the fate because he didn't want to die.

But DG in current timeline wasn't expecting TTJ to die on the ice and said he would undergo many more trials. So that is the first clue that he was aware of LSS/YXW.

I've been suspecting since long that in the drama DG who says to Ming Ye wants to go into nothingness--he would be okay if he just died and TTJ took over. I haven't seen the latest episode, so I may be wrong. But considering his original stated goal was to destroy everything and go into nothingness, it would make sense if he's fine even if that doesn't happen as long as he himself is gone and doesn't have to be the embodiment of everything bad in the universe and get blamed by the people who are responsible for creating and sustaining you in the first place.

I think the complaints on Ep 33 are valid. I've never had an issue before and I still understood Ep 33 for the most part, but especially reading what was cut in the comment above, I don't know man. It would've been 10-15 minutes at most if they tightly edited all that was missed. With some other scenes shortened, it would've meant some of it would have had to be ep 32 which means editing previous and post episodes as well.

But yeah I think especially meeting YQY would've given more heart would be more well rounded.

So much anti-china and western propaganda in many of these comments. I understand that in the current running time there could've been maybe 1-3 more episodes. Or, perhaps the producers could've spent a little bit more time and effort in editing. But it is what it is.

LOL There's no way I'll watch 100 episodes of this drama. And most people watching wouldn't either. It would be dropped.

It is really only about one episode cut when you factor in the running time.

Ming Ye was an different entity. He only looked the same because TTJ entered the dream as MY. In actuality it would probably be that their conscious simply took on their characters but since is a drama of course they can't show it that way. It would be episodes without the actors. So we would view it as TTJ entered and Ming Ye took on his form because he was playing MY in the dream.

Si Ying, I don't know. We saw a memory of her kneeling in front of him without the facemask and he gave her the umbrella. So she knows his face. Only guess is she didn't piece it together with the different styling and aura. It could be a loophole, or maybe not. Di Mian I think is even more senior and older than Si Ying and Jing Mie. So it's likely that he would've had even more interaction with older DG than Si Ying.

It's been alluded to that PYZ told LSS' father and TTJ's master certain things that will happen and how TTJ is critical/important. As to how PYX knew this, people speculated he may have used the mirror and seen some things. So he told the sect masters the importance of TTJ (maybe that he is devil fetus, we don't know) and told TTJ's master to take him in from the river.

But the whole episode before that was him trying to figure out how to make sure he wouldn't become DG. He found out for sure earlier episode that he was Devil Fetus with the convo with DG after the seal went into him. And even before that he was putting it all together with all the info he was getting, and remembering the crossbow, etc.

And he was always telling her he wouldn't turn to DG. Never that that DG is not him. I don't know, it's the one editing issue or oversight they made in dialogue/script.

I can believe he finally accepted and admitted the gravity of the situation, but he always knew what she told and showed him was that he would turn into that DG. And he was slowly getting more and more confirmation. And she knew that too because he told her about the crossbow. So... it was just an odd lines of words in the screenplay, imo.

He knew though. When the seal enters him his convo with DG, DG tells him he's the devil fetus. Si Ying also says she's found it. He goes to Barren Abyss and has that whole convo.

And even beforehand, as he admits freely, he has heard everything and put everything together. Like he told LSS about the arrow going into him. He heard from the others that his tribe was the one the fetus should come from. The artifacts would be attracted to the fetus, etc.

It's an odd convo. Like I said, I understand his final acceptance and admittance. But their convo was as if he didn't know it was the DG that LSS showed him during the lightning punishment.

I can understand him being in denial mode. But their convo was that he knows that what she showed him was DG. But she told him that when she showed him. And throughout the whole episode he was telling her that he won't turn into DG. It's predicated on the fact that what she showed him in original time line was DG which he had turned into.

His denial mode was never that it was DG that she showed. His denial was that he will turn into that.

I'm pretty sure she told him.

The best line of the series.

"His lordship's plan is abstruse."

I just finished watching the episode and was about to comment and ask about the same thing.

I don't understand. The whole episode is of him denying and insisting he won't be DG. That means he knows but doesn't believe he will be able to turned. Like, that's why he went into Barren Abyss, to find out how to make sure he can't be turned.

And LSS knows he knows, because that's what he was insisting to her he won't become.

So that conversation makes no sense? I understand that he finally comes to accept and admit the full gravity of the situation. But her saying

You got it, and then asking/saying 'you knew this while you were in the sect.'

Um yess, and you know he knows. Plus you told him straight up when you took out his bone.

Is it a given that original GYJW would've remembered his past life? If he gained it without death, sure. But I think most likely he died in mortal life in the original timeline. Especially in the drama, since YXW and LSS look the same. (Will ignore whether or not he would've reacted to TTJ's face in such a circumstance as their encounter in episode 1).