the people hating on the drama bc there are no kiss scenes are weird. that said, the drama was fine, nothing more,…
I don’t think it’s weird, to be honest. People who came to watch this did so because it’s described as a romantic drama, and that naturally includes intimate scenes. Even Ren Jialun doesn’t do kissing scenes, but no one criticizes him because his acting is strong enough to convey romantic emotions without those fake-out kisses. It’s like going to a restaurant to eat, but the chef is allergic to salt, so he just leaves it out and expects you to be okay with it. LHC shouldn’t have taken up a romance or an intense romantic drama if she’s not comfortable doing kissing scenes, which are pretty much essential in these kinds of stories.
Idk if I am dumb but I cannot figure out the meaning of a puppy is wagging its tail! Can someone tell me what…
This is what was written in the novel "The puppy wagging its tail — A dog wagging its tail is a way of expressing liking someone" by the author. The author basically means that she likes ML.
This is her exact thoughts when she tells him the expression"Did you hear? Because the puppy is wagging its tail, the cheers for you will never stop. The rain in Qingyi might still fall often, but in this boiling sea of people—
Nah, he was completely crazy in the novel too. Like a lost puppy, stuck in his own jealous world without any sympathy…
💯 agree with you. Tbh after they start dating, Xu Zhi does become good to CLZ in some ways but still even after that their relationship felt too one-sided to me.
i have a question for the people who read the novel; is he crazy about her in the novel or was it exaggerated…
Nah, he was completely crazy in the novel too. Like a lost puppy, stuck in his own jealous world without any sympathy or care from Xu Zhi. Honestly, their relationship is way too one sided. I still don't get what made CLZ like her so much that he kept being jealous and constantly doubting himself. She never did anything for him, but she acted like he deserved to be treated like a leech just because he liked her and she knew he would put up with whatever she did. She also never gave him any sense of security. She kept asking to sleep with him and saying things that sounded exactly like what a player would say, making him feel like maybe he was the one in the wrong and that he didn't deserve her.
Would you stand by if you saw someone just mindlessly killing people? She's not even overidealistic, she was saying…
You keep saying “it doesn’t matter if they were bad or good,” but that’s exactly the problem. So now we’re just supposed to sit back and do nothing while people who have hurt and destroyed others walk around free, just because others might not know about their crimes? That’s not justice, that’s willful ignorance. Bibi and Gangcheori didn’t go around killing innocent people. Every single one they targeted had caused real harm. If anything, they were doing what no one else had the courage to do.
And about “who gave them the right” — they’re literal deities. If you really believe gods need human permission to punish evil, then you’ve completely missed the purpose of their existence. Divine intervention exists because human systems often fail to deliver justice. They didn’t need an assignment. Their actions were driven by their own sense of duty and morality, something Yeo Ri clearly could not grasp.
You’re acting like Gangcheori was walking down the road with a sword yelling “look at me, I’m here to kill.” The scene you’re pointing at showed him quietly walking at night. That’s not recklessness. And the fact that no one could prove anything about the deaths only shows they were being smart about it. The people were scared, sure, but they were reacting to rumors and fear, not evidence. So again, where’s the reckless behavior?
Your argument about “they might get sloppy later” is pure speculation. Yeo Ri shut them down before anything even happened. That’s not being cautious, that’s being paranoid. You are defending the idea of stopping justice before it even starts, just in case it might one day go wrong. That is a weak principle to stand on.
And blaming Bibi for “putting his brother in danger” is ridiculous. Gangcheori was not some clueless kid being dragged around. He knew exactly what he was doing. He chose to fight, and he did it with a clear mind. He’s not a victim. Trying to guilt Bibi over that just shows how desperate you are to shift the blame.
You say Yeo Ri was the reasonable one, but all she did was interfere without understanding the full picture. She acted emotionally, without thinking through the consequences. You say she was protecting everyone, but all she really did was stop something that was actually helping cleanse the rot that no one else was willing to deal with.
So no, Bibi and Gangcheori were not “stupid boys.” They were doing what needed to be done while others, including Yeo Ri, stood by pretending to hold the moral high ground. That’s not principle. That’s cowardice dressed up as virtue.
Would you stand by if you saw someone just mindlessly killing people? She's not even overidealistic, she was saying…
I honestly don’t know how you watched the drama, but where exactly did it show that Bibi or Gangcheori were just randomly killing people? Every single person Bibi took down had done serious harm to others. They weren’t innocent. If anything, it felt like they were getting what they deserved. And let’s not forget, both Bibi and Gangcheori are deities. In pretty much every culture, gods take human form to punish evil, so what exactly was the issue?
Maybe you don’t think Yep Ri was being over idealistic, but stopping them from punishing actual bad people? That felt more naive than smart. And Gangcheori wasn’t even being reckless. The only thing he did out in the open was destroy their talismans. Even the Minister of War’s death was seen as natural, not something that led back to them. So honestly, they were being careful. Yeo Ri, on the other hand, just made things harder with her emotional outburst.
Also, how would the king even punish anyone when there was no real proof? He only asked Gangcheori about it because of some random rumor about Imugi. That’s all. And he is not going to act on that first of all because he is somewhat happy that people against his anti-slavery bill are becoming less and less and two, he needs GC so he won't act against him. So if we’re pointing fingers for being reckless or causing problems, it wasn’t the brothers.
The first time she did that, Bc she is not perfect :) Maybe bc she is human and lacks the Bigger Understanding,…
I do not forgive any of them. You are right, both are at fault, but what really bothered me about Yeo Ri is that she acted out of some exaggerated sense of moral superiority, trying to be the bigger person just because she believes bad people deserve multiple chances. Bibi, on the other hand, did what he did to save his Hyung, and that at least felt genuine. As for your point about GC being in a human body, so she had to stop him from helping Bibi kill the corrupt ministers, I do not find that very convincing. Even if he has a human shell, he is still a deity. In my culture, and in many others, there are countless stories where gods take human form specifically to destroy evil. So by that logic, should we stop respecting them? Should we tell them not to act and let evil people keep spreading their tyranny just because they were born in human form?
I'm so frustrated with Yeo-ri's overidealistic nature that I can't even put it into words. Bibi eating the bad guys was more than enough—why does she have to interfere with what the deities are doing? It's not like anyone’s going to complain, especially when even the king is glad that the people opposing his anti-slavery bill are being taken out.
You're completely missing the point here. Are you still on the first episodes? Wait until she unravels the corruption…
Maybe you are right, and I am negatively biased against the FL, but at least I am not a hypocrite like you, whose only purpose seems to be defending everything the FL does, no matter how wrong. I already know what kind of person you are, so do not bother arguing with me. Your earlier comments made that very clear.
If someone wants you to be sexually assaulted or, even worse, killed, I honestly do not understand how anyone can forgive that. Yes, forgiveness is a virtue, but it applies to smaller issues like misunderstandings or minor conflicts. It should not be extended to serious matters like sexual assault, loss of reputation that was clearly intentional, or attempted murder.
Ming Tan and her father gave Ming Chu several chances, but did she ever learn? No, she did not. So how can you be so sure she will not harm the FL or her future children someday?
Yes, both Ming Tan and Jiang Xu feel jealous when they see each other interacting with someone from the opposite gender, but that was never my issue. What bothered me was how the FL reacted when the ML had even a brief interaction with another woman. She acted like he committed a terrible crime and treated him as if he was guilty of something serious, ignoring him or getting upset, which then forced the ML to persuade and calm her down.
Meanwhile, the FL was casually going out with men like the Nanlu Prince, and the ML was expected to stay silent, holding back his feelings. He was not even given the basic freedom by the so called feminist writers to express his frustration or confront her about it.
Yes, Ming Tan has flaws like any real person. She can be vain and tends to judge based on appearance, which I actually liked. But in the drama, she has been made to look foolish at times, and you cannot deny that. In the novel, she was also vain and petty, but she was smart and knew how to defend herself. If someone wronged her, she made sure they paid for it. She was not like the drama version, who seems to forgive everyone easily.
And about the Lingzhou corruption case, maybe in your opinion the FL solved it all by herself. But just because you believe that does not make it true. She received help from many people, whether you see that help as small or insignificant does not change the fact that she did not do it alone.
You're completely missing the point here. Are you still on the first episodes? Wait until she unravels the corruption…
Yeah, I know my initial impression of her was wrong. She does have some intelligence, but still, she seemed pretty naive in most situations and in the way she handled things. She forgave her sister after everything she did and did not even try to confront her or get any kind of closure, let alone take revenge.
And let's not even talk about how she behaved during the Qing Yu situation. She was clearly jealous and was not even speaking to the male lead properly. Yet she had no regard for his feelings while going on multiple dates with Wen Zong. All he did was have a meal with Qing Yu, nothing more. But she acted like he had cheated on her or something. Honestly, she was so bitter and jealous. She thought it was completely fine for her to hang out with other guys, but the moment he did something even remotely similar, she got mad and stopped talking to him entirely. And tbh she didn't unravel the corruption and smuggling scheme in Lingzhou by herself, she had help from many people without whom she would have died a long back.
This is her exact thoughts when she tells him the expression"Did you hear? Because the puppy is wagging its tail, the cheers for you will never stop. The rain in Qingyi might still fall often, but in this boiling sea of people—
I’m saying I like you."
And about “who gave them the right” — they’re literal deities. If you really believe gods need human permission to punish evil, then you’ve completely missed the purpose of their existence. Divine intervention exists because human systems often fail to deliver justice. They didn’t need an assignment. Their actions were driven by their own sense of duty and morality, something Yeo Ri clearly could not grasp.
You’re acting like Gangcheori was walking down the road with a sword yelling “look at me, I’m here to kill.” The scene you’re pointing at showed him quietly walking at night. That’s not recklessness. And the fact that no one could prove anything about the deaths only shows they were being smart about it. The people were scared, sure, but they were reacting to rumors and fear, not evidence. So again, where’s the reckless behavior?
Your argument about “they might get sloppy later” is pure speculation. Yeo Ri shut them down before anything even happened. That’s not being cautious, that’s being paranoid. You are defending the idea of stopping justice before it even starts, just in case it might one day go wrong. That is a weak principle to stand on.
And blaming Bibi for “putting his brother in danger” is ridiculous. Gangcheori was not some clueless kid being dragged around. He knew exactly what he was doing. He chose to fight, and he did it with a clear mind. He’s not a victim. Trying to guilt Bibi over that just shows how desperate you are to shift the blame.
You say Yeo Ri was the reasonable one, but all she did was interfere without understanding the full picture. She acted emotionally, without thinking through the consequences. You say she was protecting everyone, but all she really did was stop something that was actually helping cleanse the rot that no one else was willing to deal with.
So no, Bibi and Gangcheori were not “stupid boys.” They were doing what needed to be done while others, including Yeo Ri, stood by pretending to hold the moral high ground. That’s not principle. That’s cowardice dressed up as virtue.
Maybe you don’t think Yep Ri was being over idealistic, but stopping them from punishing actual bad people? That felt more naive than smart. And Gangcheori wasn’t even being reckless. The only thing he did out in the open was destroy their talismans. Even the Minister of War’s death was seen as natural, not something that led back to them. So honestly, they were being careful. Yeo Ri, on the other hand, just made things harder with her emotional outburst.
Also, how would the king even punish anyone when there was no real proof? He only asked Gangcheori about it because of some random rumor about Imugi. That’s all. And he is not going to act on that first of all because he is somewhat happy that people against his anti-slavery bill are becoming less and less and two, he needs GC so he won't act against him. So if we’re pointing fingers for being reckless or causing problems, it wasn’t the brothers.
If someone wants you to be sexually assaulted or, even worse, killed, I honestly do not understand how anyone can forgive that. Yes, forgiveness is a virtue, but it applies to smaller issues like misunderstandings or minor conflicts. It should not be extended to serious matters like sexual assault, loss of reputation that was clearly intentional, or attempted murder.
Ming Tan and her father gave Ming Chu several chances, but did she ever learn? No, she did not. So how can you be so sure she will not harm the FL or her future children someday?
Yes, both Ming Tan and Jiang Xu feel jealous when they see each other interacting with someone from the opposite gender, but that was never my issue. What bothered me was how the FL reacted when the ML had even a brief interaction with another woman. She acted like he committed a terrible crime and treated him as if he was guilty of something serious, ignoring him or getting upset, which then forced the ML to persuade and calm her down.
Meanwhile, the FL was casually going out with men like the Nanlu Prince, and the ML was expected to stay silent, holding back his feelings. He was not even given the basic freedom by the so called feminist writers to express his frustration or confront her about it.
Yes, Ming Tan has flaws like any real person. She can be vain and tends to judge based on appearance, which I actually liked. But in the drama, she has been made to look foolish at times, and you cannot deny that. In the novel, she was also vain and petty, but she was smart and knew how to defend herself. If someone wronged her, she made sure they paid for it. She was not like the drama version, who seems to forgive everyone easily.
And about the Lingzhou corruption case, maybe in your opinion the FL solved it all by herself. But just because you believe that does not make it true. She received help from many people, whether you see that help as small or insignificant does not change the fact that she did not do it alone.
And let's not even talk about how she behaved during the Qing Yu situation. She was clearly jealous and was not even speaking to the male lead properly. Yet she had no regard for his feelings while going on multiple dates with Wen Zong. All he did was have a meal with Qing Yu, nothing more. But she acted like he had cheated on her or something. Honestly, she was so bitter and jealous. She thought it was completely fine for her to hang out with other guys, but the moment he did something even remotely similar, she got mad and stopped talking to him entirely. And tbh she didn't unravel the corruption and smuggling scheme in Lingzhou by herself, she had help from many people without whom she would have died a long back.