Agree to disagree on that one.My mind checked out on "It's not really problematic..."
MDL server space isn't big enough to explain everything that can be considered problematic in Cutie Pie.
Just to mention a few - age gap between Lian and Kuea. Arranged marriage. Kuea being forced to live with Lian and not allowed outside unless he behaves. Diao needing to report everything to Yi. Diao living alone in Yi's house. Diao shaking like a leaf 90 % of times he's with Yi.
There was unconsensual kiss between Kuea and Lian (when Kuea didn't even know it's Lian), besides some other scenes with unclear consent. There was a homophobia scene (though it was short and meaningless imo).
I'm not judging anyone who enioys the show despite it being problematic. But claiming it isn't problematic at all is just oblivious at best.
Heeey :) Can someone help me?Sorry if it's a silly question... I've been reading reviews here and lots of people…
Inside the show, for me it means skinship/intimate scenes that don't necessarily align with the plot and are just inserted there to satisfy the viewers (accidental touches/kisses, long stares, bumping, faces close to each other, food feeding, beach episodes, shirtless for no reason.... basically any BL cliche/trope you know of can be considered fanservice-y).
Outside the show, it means when actors pretend to be close to each other irl just to create a hype for the series/pairing, usually in ways of skinship or mock-up scenes. The "Behind Cutie Pie" BTS episode is a good example how fanservice may look like (especially the ZeeNuNew parts).
Sorry, but what's the point of "delaying" international release without any clear statement? It just confuses the hell out of people and makes them pirate the show anyway.
Same with Gen Y 2. I'm pretty sure if people knew there will be official (free, to boot!) release a month after the finale, more people would wait and support the creators during that time. All it would take is to make an official statement.
I can understand if they waited to see how popular it would be (or for fansubs to base their official subs on), but still. They could have told us it's a possibility.
Whatever. I'm not watching the mess a second time. It just baffles me. For everyone starting to watch it later on, please try to support it through official "AIS PLAY" youtube channel.
ZeeNew are carrying the show tho i feel like they have GREATTTT chem
"I still haven't gotten around to doing a big formal review of that show but when I do--man, it's going to be brutal."
It's what it deserves. I didn't even have energy to finish it after the BS ep.8 twist. And from what I've heard, it's only gone downhill from there. Your review might very well be the most interesting part of the whole drama 😄
For first two episodes - this was like a bad fanfiction. First, 30 minutes of testosterone poisoning. Another 30 minutes of the most homoerotic BS I've ever seen. 30 minutes of honeymoon phase. And what the heck was the ending scene at the balcony? How did they not confess beforehand?! What did they think they were? Just bros being bros? Cue the happy ending. The plot literally made negative amount of sense. But it was still fun to watch. Totally fanservicy.
ZeeNew are carrying the show tho i feel like they have GREATTTT chem
This is what happens when you imply BadPennyGirl should elaborate. Nobody can say you aren't thorough, though 💚
I wish we would have interacted on Enchante's MDL page during release. The show would be way more enjoyable if I could read your comments each week!! Not that I would subject anyone to watching Enchante on weekly basis 😔
Hey. I've wanted to watch this series but I wanna know if it's worth my time or not so is this series good?
Fuuu. That's a hard question I don't think I can answer for you. The best I've got is - it depends. It's got good technical stuff like visuals and music. As for plot, writing and romance, that's controversial.
I believe it's worth at least trying. But if you do so, try to go further than 2 episodes, since the first two parts are very different from the rest of the series in my opinion.
Overall, this was exactly what I expected from it. Not much in terms of bloopers, but there has been some funny parts. Heaps of fanservice, but more on that later. And of course, the traditional "behind the scenes" insights I tend to find boring.
The whole episode is almost an hour long. I admit I skimmed through the scenes that weren't interesting to me (mainly side character stuff and some fanservice). Parts 1 and 3 were the best in my opinion, since they went through my favorite scenes from first 2 episodes of CP.
There is a lot of fanservice. And I mean, a lot. ZeeNunew (LianKuea) jumps out at you every few seconds. To be fair, they looked pretty comfortable with each other, probably because they're used to it by now. Surprisingly enough, there was basically zero MaxNat (YiDiao) fanservice. Just one little scene in part 3 (around 6:20 mark), which also looked hella forced to me and was thankfully interrupted by NuNew. Which, let me tell you. Scenes with NuNew and Nat (Kuea and Diao) were the saving grace of this episode! The fanservice didn't feel so natural to me, but it was very cute. I would have rather watched a cut version with just the two of them. I don't get why they left out MaxNat, though. Maybe they're saving it up for later (since there weren't much of them at the start of the show) or they have other plans with them (adaptation of book 2, breaking them up). I'm not really into pairing stuff, it just seemed off to me.
For everyone interested in Kuea/Diao interactions, these were my favorite marks : (part 1, minute 4), (part 2, 10:30), (part 3, 2:30) and (part 3, 6:30). There is also a really cute scene with just Nat (Diao) in part 2 around 12:30 mark.
Some other stuff:
Acting coach looks like he aged 10 years trying to make this mess work (part 3, minute 7)
Now I understand why people find Poppy (Foei) attractive (part 1, around 7:40 mark).
There are also two memorable scenes with the acting coach. In part 1 (11:20), he's explaining the importance of Kuea's confession scene (the end of episode 1) from a technical point of view. He also coaches Zee how Lian should feel during the rejection (part 1, around 12:50 mark). Honestly, I think that his explanation didn't match the script (what Lian actually says in that scene) at all. I don't know who to blame for it, but it surely didn't help me see Lian in a better light.
To sum up. If you're looking for ZeeNuNew fanservice, this is a great episode for you (and you've prolly already watched it either way). Nothing for MaxNat. Some cute scenes with NuNew and Nat (see above for timestamps). Not much in terms of plot explanations or interesting insights. TutorYim aren't even worth mentioning.
For me personally, this episode just made it more clear to me that I want a drama with NuNew and Nat as main leads (doesn't need to be a pairing, but I won't complain if it is). Part 4 is a skip. Part 2 is only good at the end for Diao. Parts 1 and 3 are a mix between boring, fanservice, and slightly interesting.
According to the novel Daisy is trans and uses the pronouns She/Her.
I don't trust subtitles in BL that much (since pronouns and often names are massacred in those). But the use of "kha" makes me think that's most likely what the writers intended for the character. It's also very subtle, especially for people that don't speak thai (like me). That's why I thought I missed something 🙂
For people who watched this week's behind the scenes - is there anything interesting as far as plot or character development goes? Thanks in advance 🙂
I didn't expect Joong starring in a BL again. Isn't he known for being homophobic? Didn't they want to make a…
I am still waiting with equal amount of excitement and apprehension for a confirmation about 2moons3 (one way or another).
I don't think one actor would have any bearing on it, though. They've recasted everyone for 2moons2, one lead shouldn't be a problem as far as possibility of 2moons3 goes.
From what I've heard, the main reason why 2moons3 is unlikely to happen is that basically every actor from 2moons2 dropped out of the project. I heard they offered them bad contracts and conditions, but that's the limit of fandom drama I'm personally willing to spread (since general "proof" never really exists either way).
Just to mention a few - age gap between Lian and Kuea. Arranged marriage. Kuea being forced to live with Lian and not allowed outside unless he behaves. Diao needing to report everything to Yi. Diao living alone in Yi's house. Diao shaking like a leaf 90 % of times he's with Yi.
There was unconsensual kiss between Kuea and Lian (when Kuea didn't even know it's Lian), besides some other scenes with unclear consent. There was a homophobia scene (though it was short and meaningless imo).
I'm not judging anyone who enioys the show despite it being problematic. But claiming it isn't problematic at all is just oblivious at best.
My mind checked out on "It's not really problematic..."
Outside the show, it means when actors pretend to be close to each other irl just to create a hype for the series/pairing, usually in ways of skinship or mock-up scenes. The "Behind Cutie Pie" BTS episode is a good example how fanservice may look like (especially the ZeeNuNew parts).
Same with Gen Y 2. I'm pretty sure if people knew there will be official (free, to boot!) release a month after the finale, more people would wait and support the creators during that time. All it would take is to make an official statement.
I can understand if they waited to see how popular it would be (or for fansubs to base their official subs on), but still. They could have told us it's a possibility.
Whatever. I'm not watching the mess a second time. It just baffles me. For everyone starting to watch it later on, please try to support it through official "AIS PLAY" youtube channel.
It's what it deserves. I didn't even have energy to finish it after the BS ep.8 twist. And from what I've heard, it's only gone downhill from there. Your review might very well be the most interesting part of the whole drama 😄
I wish we would have interacted on Enchante's MDL page during release. The show would be way more enjoyable if I could read your comments each week!! Not that I would subject anyone to watching Enchante on weekly basis 😔
I believe it's worth at least trying. But if you do so, try to go further than 2 episodes, since the first two parts are very different from the rest of the series in my opinion.
Overall, this was exactly what I expected from it. Not much in terms of bloopers, but there has been some funny parts. Heaps of fanservice, but more on that later. And of course, the traditional "behind the scenes" insights I tend to find boring.
The whole episode is almost an hour long. I admit I skimmed through the scenes that weren't interesting to me (mainly side character stuff and some fanservice). Parts 1 and 3 were the best in my opinion, since they went through my favorite scenes from first 2 episodes of CP.
There is a lot of fanservice. And I mean, a lot. ZeeNunew (LianKuea) jumps out at you every few seconds. To be fair, they looked pretty comfortable with each other, probably because they're used to it by now. Surprisingly enough, there was basically zero MaxNat (YiDiao) fanservice. Just one little scene in part 3 (around 6:20 mark), which also looked hella forced to me and was thankfully interrupted by NuNew. Which, let me tell you. Scenes with NuNew and Nat (Kuea and Diao) were the saving grace of this episode! The fanservice didn't feel so natural to me, but it was very cute. I would have rather watched a cut version with just the two of them. I don't get why they left out MaxNat, though. Maybe they're saving it up for later (since there weren't much of them at the start of the show) or they have other plans with them (adaptation of book 2, breaking them up). I'm not really into pairing stuff, it just seemed off to me.
For everyone interested in Kuea/Diao interactions, these were my favorite marks : (part 1, minute 4), (part 2, 10:30), (part 3, 2:30) and (part 3, 6:30). There is also a really cute scene with just Nat (Diao) in part 2 around 12:30 mark.
Some other stuff:
Acting coach looks like he aged 10 years trying to make this mess work (part 3, minute 7)
Now I understand why people find Poppy (Foei) attractive (part 1, around 7:40 mark).
There are also two memorable scenes with the acting coach. In part 1 (11:20), he's explaining the importance of Kuea's confession scene (the end of episode 1) from a technical point of view. He also coaches Zee how Lian should feel during the rejection (part 1, around 12:50 mark). Honestly, I think that his explanation didn't match the script (what Lian actually says in that scene) at all. I don't know who to blame for it, but it surely didn't help me see Lian in a better light.
To sum up. If you're looking for ZeeNuNew fanservice, this is a great episode for you (and you've prolly already watched it either way). Nothing for MaxNat. Some cute scenes with NuNew and Nat (see above for timestamps). Not much in terms of plot explanations or interesting insights. TutorYim aren't even worth mentioning.
For me personally, this episode just made it more clear to me that I want a drama with NuNew and Nat as main leads (doesn't need to be a pairing, but I won't complain if it is). Part 4 is a skip. Part 2 is only good at the end for Diao. Parts 1 and 3 are a mix between boring, fanservice, and slightly interesting.
But it was worth a try.
I agree with the statement. I was just on a fence whether that's confirmed or not.
(depends on a body)
I don't think one actor would have any bearing on it, though. They've recasted everyone for 2moons2, one lead shouldn't be a problem as far as possibility of 2moons3 goes.
From what I've heard, the main reason why 2moons3 is unlikely to happen is that basically every actor from 2moons2 dropped out of the project. I heard they offered them bad contracts and conditions, but that's the limit of fandom drama I'm personally willing to spread (since general "proof" never really exists either way).