Pei yan was making me uncomfortable last two episodes (honestly prior to as well) but that is just a testament…
Yup, based on the novel, the one thing Pei Yan failed to calculate was his heart. So he lost it all. Lol this story is more about him and his ambitions and love, than it is about the ML. But you know, cdramas always have to downplay interesting 2MLs to prop up the ML. They have watered down Pei Yan's character so much...
Anyways, with what he is given, Jeremy is playing this role so well. Bringing the character to life so well that even though Pei Yan annoys us/ makes us uncomfortable, we still see his human side and are able to sympathize with him.
But she never asked for any of that. Of course she never cared about him in that way. She had only ever seen him as a friend. It was all his one sided love. Why should she be blamed for his one sided love? We are all free to like who we like, but that doesn't mean they have to like us back...
When I first watched this years ago, I felt a little bad for the SML in the beginning cause he was doing all these noce things for her and she never cared. But rewatching again made me understand her character when I listened to what she told the ML in the cave when they were trapped.
She said, "being nice to someone is quite easy. Anyone can be nice. But treating someone they want to be treated, not just your idea of how you want to treat them, and understanding them for who they are, that's the hard part."
SML never understood her or treat her how she wants to be treated. It was always his version of how thier life was once, and how it could be in the future. And he's very forceful with his "caring, "so he gets no sympathy from me.
this dráma IS fór my 7/10 maybe i must watch more EPisodes but this dráma don't give me buterfly in my stomach...than…
Technically, Jeremy is not SML. There's no true SML. In the book, they are both ML. Jeremy's character is even more prominent in the book. The story revolves around him and his ambitions. Wei Zhao (Allen Ren's) character doesn't show up until much later.
But I guess they changed some things for the show. So, to me, while watching, I see them both as MLs.
But this character truly suits Jeremy. I am loving the way he is bringing the character to life!
I have been taking my time slowly watching this show, and I gotta say, I am enjoying it so far.
My only issue is that the dubber's voice doesn't match Jeremy Tsui character and demeanor. It also doesn't match Jeremy as an actor. I wish, wish he wasn't dubbed, so he can truly bring this character to life with his own voice. Right now, just his acting alone has done so much to bring the character to life. Imagine if it was his voice?? Uggghhh... I guess we can't get everything...
Anyways, I'm enjoying the characters and their journey. So far everyone and their story is interesting. Even the emperor and Pei Yan's mother. I would like to see how that relationship plays out later on.
I don’t think his violence toward her is being “romanticized”; it’s pretty clearly NOT why she falls in…
Just to point out, this show is not really an "enemies to lovers plot" An enemies to lovers plot is where the relationship is equal on some level and each can retaliate against the other on a major scale. Where there is intense rivalry between the "couple" and they can balance out the rivalry because they are equal.
This is a show about a victim and perpetrator. They are NOT on equal level. The victim will end up falling in love with the perpetrator. It's a common romantic plot, but it's not an enemies to lovers one.
Anyways, I'm not here for the romace, just here to enjoy the ride of each character. Just wanted to point out the misconception of the enemies to lovers trope cause I see it thrown around here a lot lately.
Landy Li has been on a roll recently, let me tell you something. It's not easy to hold your own in front of acting…
About your side note: I COMPLETELY AGREE!!! Jeremy is playing his villain role so well that even though we know he's wrong, we sympathize with him and understand him on some level.
He brings a human touch to the character that nutsack wasn't able to bring to his. Even though they gave nutsack all romantic scenes with FL, he still wasn't able to capture the audience heart because the role wasn't brought to life properly.
But Jeremy is able to make us connect with his character, and make us anticipate the character's next move. He's really an amazing actor!!
She really has a way with words, and those touches and consoles Pei Yan, our guy has fallen and not knowing;)
Girl go away. Let people enjoy their ship in peace.
You are up and down this thread just providing spoilers upon spoilers to people UNPROVOKED and unwanted. Anytime someone dares to say they like the SML you swoop in and tell them why they are wrong for that.
Take a deep breath babe. Take a rest. Leave people alone.
Don't scroll down someone spoiled the whole story in a long unmarked spoiler. I blocked them so I can't tell if…
That was such a d*ck move by that person. Lol pissing me off real bad cause I feel like it's intentional. Like the show just started not even a day ago, and they already posted a long azz spoiler with no spoiler tag.
You are truly a crazy person to sit down and type out a long azz spoiler for a show that just started a day ago, and not put the spoiler tag. Hope you get banned.🙄
but I saw they find the plot boring 😴 I was like seriously why they always want to drag the drama here me I…
Yep, I hate when production houses don't promote their upcoming shows. Youku is notorious for this. They just drop a show with no promotion and go about their day, hoping for the best😂
Before this show premired, I really saw no promotion on social media except by a melon page. I only knew about this show cause I had most of Jeremy Tsui shows on my watchlist. 😢
but I saw they find the plot boring 😴 I was like seriously why they always want to drag the drama here me I…
Lol don't even get me started on UTP. Every time they are on that damn boat and fake water I roll my eyes😂😂
But that drama is also my comfort show. I've rewatched it like 5 times already😭
It was in that drama that I first discovered Seven Tan. (In 2021). And I went on a watching spree of her shows. She has become one of my favorite actress. My favorite show of hers is TSATB( lol though a lot of people can't stand that the ML have many concubines) I loved it all. I love mess like that😂
At this point, it's hard to tell who's the ML in this drama. 2ML has all the romantic scenes with the FL and seems…
Apparently in the novel, there's really no real ML. Both of them are MLs.
In the novel, the story revolves around Pei Yan. It's not until much later that Wei Zhao is more in the story.
But for drama sake, they have changed things around to make Wei Zhao ML, but kept some of the essence of the novel. That's probably why you are feeling like there's no real ML. There's not supposed to be one.
I am excited about it. I can't wait to see Pei Yan and Wei Zhao one up eachother!
Ok I am trying this show because both main male leads are too good actors but please tell is this show has happy…
This show just started TODAY. You should watch it with the rest of us to know whether it happy ending or not. I don't think anyone can predict that just yet.
Maybe novel readers, but then again, dramas change from novels all the time
Lol if you are going to bad mouth someone, please get their names right!
Anyways, with what he is given, Jeremy is playing this role so well. Bringing the character to life so well that even though Pei Yan annoys us/ makes us uncomfortable, we still see his human side and are able to sympathize with him.
When I first watched this years ago, I felt a little bad for the SML in the beginning cause he was doing all these noce things for her and she never cared. But rewatching again made me understand her character when I listened to what she told the ML in the cave when they were trapped.
She said, "being nice to someone is quite easy. Anyone can be nice. But treating someone they want to be treated, not just your idea of how you want to treat them, and understanding them for who they are, that's the hard part."
SML never understood her or treat her how she wants to be treated. It was always his version of how thier life was once, and how it could be in the future. And he's very forceful with his "caring, "so he gets no sympathy from me.
But I guess they changed some things for the show. So, to me, while watching, I see them both as MLs.
But this character truly suits Jeremy. I am loving the way he is bringing the character to life!
My only issue is that the dubber's voice doesn't match Jeremy Tsui character and demeanor. It also doesn't match Jeremy as an actor. I wish, wish he wasn't dubbed, so he can truly bring this character to life with his own voice. Right now, just his acting alone has done so much to bring the character to life. Imagine if it was his voice?? Uggghhh... I guess we can't get everything...
Anyways, I'm enjoying the characters and their journey. So far everyone and their story is interesting. Even the emperor and Pei Yan's mother. I would like to see how that relationship plays out later on.
This is a show about a victim and perpetrator. They are NOT on equal level. The victim will end up falling in love with the perpetrator. It's a common romantic plot, but it's not an enemies to lovers one.
Anyways, I'm not here for the romace, just here to enjoy the ride of each character. Just wanted to point out the misconception of the enemies to lovers trope cause I see it thrown around here a lot lately.
He brings a human touch to the character that nutsack wasn't able to bring to his. Even though they gave nutsack all romantic scenes with FL, he still wasn't able to capture the audience heart because the role wasn't brought to life properly.
But Jeremy is able to make us connect with his character, and make us anticipate the character's next move. He's really an amazing actor!!
You are up and down this thread just providing spoilers upon spoilers to people UNPROVOKED and unwanted. Anytime someone dares to say they like the SML you swoop in and tell them why they are wrong for that.
Take a deep breath babe. Take a rest. Leave people alone.
You are truly a crazy person to sit down and type out a long azz spoiler for a show that just started a day ago, and not put the spoiler tag. Hope you get banned.🙄
Before this show premired, I really saw no promotion on social media except by a melon page. I only knew about this show cause I had most of Jeremy Tsui shows on my watchlist. 😢
But that drama is also my comfort show. I've rewatched it like 5 times already😭
It was in that drama that I first discovered Seven Tan. (In 2021). And I went on a watching spree of her shows. She has become one of my favorite actress. My favorite show of hers is TSATB( lol though a lot of people can't stand that the ML have many concubines) I loved it all. I love mess like that😂
In the novel, the story revolves around Pei Yan. It's not until much later that Wei Zhao is more in the story.
But for drama sake, they have changed things around to make Wei Zhao ML, but kept some of the essence of the novel. That's probably why you are feeling like there's no real ML. There's not supposed to be one.
I am excited about it. I can't wait to see Pei Yan and Wei Zhao one up eachother!
Lol TLOZ pissed me off so bad with how pale and white they made the characters 😂 lol but that show is still my comfort show.
Maybe novel readers, but then again, dramas change from novels all the time