Your comment makes a compelling case. TBH - I want to believe that he is just sharp and observant - kind of like…
Haha - thanks and yes, we both might be thinking of possible scenarios - but the writers might add in something completely different. Let's come back tomorrow or as it is solved - and discuss.
But this is so cool and interesting, this drama is really good!
Your comment makes a compelling case. TBH - I want to believe that he is just sharp and observant - kind of like…
Hmm - inconspicuous cause he is trying to track the taxi driver. That is what I thought.
And why they added this part - cause earlier Tae Sung was a delinquent and he did not have any relationship with Sun Jae or Im Sol. They were strangers for him, a forgotten memory of high school.
But now the timeline has altered - he may have not stayed in touch, but he knows Sun Jae and Im Sol, and cares for them on a friendly level. Plus given he has turned around his life - he would have become closer to the father (detective). So call it his hunch - that when he heard the taxi driver has been released he came to check on Im Sol.
Also, in present - the detective admits, once Sun Jae is stabbed and he meets Im Sol in cafe to talk about the 2009 case. He admits that they thought the taxi driver would come at Im Sol, but why Sun Jae perplexed him too. Maybe he voiced this at home, and Tae Sung heard him and hence came to check on Im Sol?
Haha, Idk - who knows probably we are thinking so hard on this and the writers would surprise us with completely random storyline.
Yah why would he tell Sunjae to be careful, unless he knows something.
Tae Sung: "Don't waste your energy getting jealous at me for no reason. Just take care of yourself" - also they were helping clean the DVD store, and looks like stayed back at Im Sol or Sun Jae's house after clean-up.
This can mean several things: 1. This scene probably comes after Im Sol hears that Sun Jae made out with the SFL. And she's clearly upset about it to the level that she is drinking with her brother. Tae Sung must have got to know this and therefore is warning Sun Jae not to hurt Im Sol. Like Sun Jae should sort out his matters than blame Tae Sung.
2. Just a jab - or rather a roundabout way to make him go to rehab, since it is for the better. So in a way. Tae Sung is saying there is nothing between him and Im Sol - but he will protect her. So Sun Jae can go in peace and sort himself out and be back.
At this point - Tae Sung is like your guardian SML. And this is just a trailer, so there could be some context prior to this statement he makes.
Idk why - I mean it is completely fine if he is time travelling too - but then I still want to hold on to the fact, that he is just good in his own timeline.
Tae Sung has to be a time traveler also!That’s the only explanation for:1) Him not graduating in the beginning…
Your comment makes a compelling case. TBH - I want to believe that he is just sharp and observant - kind of like it is in his blood, being the son of a detective and all. (Who knows maybe he will become a detective).
This is what I feel: Regarding disappearing in old/original timeline - I feel it must be something cause of a family matter and completely irrelevant to Im Sol. We know earlier he had a troubling relationship with his parents - like he was cold to his father, and his mother paid him no attention. So he must have gotten into some issue and therefore left the school.
But because of Im Sol's time travel and interference - the Butterfly Effect/or call it Im Sol having an impact on his life: made him mend his life for the better.
He is just plain observant - he calls it out when Im Sol travels the second time as well, that the mature Sol/granny Sol is back. And that is who he likes not the naive Sol. Which seems the same case here - he is observing her, and that is why the remark,
Regarding his appearance in 2023 outside her apartment - I feel it is to check on her. Why? Cause now this Tae Sung did not drop out of high school, and probably mended his relationship with his father. He also heard about the 2009 case from his father and was probably shocked to know Im Sol was the victim. Just for old times sake, and his care/love for her - he probably kept tabs on her and the taxi driver in prison. So when taxi driver was released - he ensures that Im Sol is safe and therefore was loitering around her apartment. Also since they are in their 30s, am also assuming - maybe Tae Sung is also a rookie detective in that time.
I know it is a little far-fetched, but showing multiple people time travelling might dilute the excitement of this trope. But yes, very much possible as Im Sol cannot be the only one doing so.
I have strong feeling Im Sol - Grandmother also knows something about time travelling or has done it/witnessed it first hand. Who knows maybe that is what has caused her to suffer now in old age?
Was that senior who had to poop in the end at time of proposal, wearing clothes like Gu Jun Pyo from Boys over Flowers - since it was 2009 time, and that is when the drama aired and stole our hearts like a storm!
Case 2009 - who will save Im Sol? And will Sun Jae become singer or swimmer?
1) 2009 Case: Since preview hints that Sun Jae is leaving for US, to attend the rehab - would Im Sol save herself or will detective and his son, aka, Tae Sung save her? And I see lot of comments saying Tae Sung will save her - if so, does that mean he is in danger in future?
2) Sun Jae's career If Sun Jae recovers and starts swimming, will he become a swimmer, or a PE teacher in future? Or since he now knows that the future Im Sol has heard his song, and it will inspire him to write songs and become a singer? Also, since his friend has requested to enter the competition as well?
Kim Tae Sung is a time traveller too, now I am more sure about it
Hmmm - no, I think he is just very observant. Like Im Sol said, he is very sharp and hence could gauge the change in Im Sol behavior. And his sharpness is what will help catch the taxi driver/solve the mystery.
Big Question: What happens to the future Im Sol, when her soul is travelling to the past? We know 2008/2009 version loses memory, she thinks someone else possess her. She is therefore not travelling to the future, I guess. Then what happens to the future Im Sol?
Time Travel 1: Future Im Sol was at that stream, when she time travels. Returns back in hospital - she was unconscious the entire time. Fair enough.
Time Travel 2: Im Sol time travels when she is in her room. Returns back as an support actor in a drama set. So what happened from the time she was in her room to drama set - like who moved her body? If her consciousness was not there how was she does this?
Or is it like because she is going back in time, the future time stops (as in how can it move forward when you are going backwards?) And because of the decisions she takes, the future is altered and where she lands up in future is just plain random?
I am so damn obsessed that I am here lurking in the comments while waiting for Ep 9 to air in my region. All the while trying to not see spoilers for Ep 9, but still low-key enjoying whatever I can see
Not really a red flag. He and the girl have communication issues and they both weren't really meant for each other.…
He is a green flag - maybe started out as potential red, or rather grey. In my opinion, the girls were in their own bubble, had own misunderstandings and did not communicate well - therefore did not realise how they were also harming others around them.
The most heavily impacted being the ML - what happened to him, due to the actions of the girls - feels very unfair and tad bit frustrating. This is right from the start when they first start dating, up to the point where he is asked to meet his daughter as a stranger.
I think the movie - wants to focus on the girls which is why the guy becomes a villain in their love story. But tbh his actions speak otherwise - he was just as affected as the girls were, maybe more.
honestly, i was expecting something emotional and a structured script but the ending was a huge disappointment…
I think you have interpreted it differently. What I understand the ending is: Ha-Eun actually passed away. The last scene of her travelling does not happen, that is just Mi-so imagining it.
After leaving the wedding, sometime later - Ha-Eun leaves Jeju for Seoul, and that is where she takes that apartment and is living alone creating the blog and the painting that is half-finished. When she is close to her delivery date, that is when she finds Mi-so and then we see the scene when they finally talk, kind of express their feelings, and she delivers the baby but passes away shortly afterwards.
Mi-so meets with Ha-Eun's mom who asks her to retrieve Ha-Eun's things from the apartment in Seoul where she was living along. That is where she finds the blog and the painting half finished - and realizes how much they loved each other, in way that was friendly or romantic - we can't say for sure. But she raises her daughter - at the same time blogs as if she is Ha-Eun, or rather what Ha-Eun would have done (i.e. travelled and painted) and in reality she is the one who completes the painting.
In a way this is the only aspect I loved in the movie - they could not be really together - but the sketch is a symbol of their love, and they in a way worked and finished it together.
Fast-forward, Jin Woo (ML) finds Mi-so because of that painting, but she tells him another version - where the child was born and Ha-Eun left for travels, and has been unreachable since. Now, not sure if Jin-Woo takes this as face value or not - for him I think he is quite shocked at the revelation that he has a daughter. Maybe he believes the story or like Ha-Eun's mother has an idea that she is no more.
Hope I was able to share it well, and it makes sense! Tbh, overall - I like the movie from the girls POV to an extent, but dislike what they did to the ML. This movie beautiful in some aspects - but to me it is a mixture of lack of communications and misunderstandings. For me that is not soulmate like behaviour, and so not love. But yeah - if it works if you want to see as unfulfilled or star crossed lovers story but still meh...
She should have informed the guy about the child. Neither of them were true to each other in the relationship…
I actually had a long comment about it - when I watched it first time in Nov 2023. But my opinion is exactly like yours.
I understand that it is tragically beautiful if you see it from the girls POV to an extent, but I found it incredibly unfair and frustrating if you see what they did to the ML, Jin-Woo. No doubt, this movie has beautiful aspects - hinting at unrequited or star crossed lover kind of story for the girls. But to me it is a movie that highlights how lack of communications and misunderstandings ruin relationships and friendships. And that for me is not love, let alone soulmate behavior. Which is why it does not have that high regard or impact for me as a viewer.
Also, looking at it from ML - Jin-Woo's angle, given how she left him at the wedding he was still trying to find Ha-Eun, he may have started as a potential red flag - but I think if he accepted and worked on it, and the search for her - makes him a green flag. Basically the guy was good - it was a new relationship for him as well. Throughout the movie - Mi-so calls out how he does not know Ha-Eun very well.
But tbh what can the guy do - when even the girl is not communicating. Some will argue that she was shy and non-confrontational, but then she was not so with Mi-so, which is why she was her soulmate, as the movie makes out to be. So in that case, she should have just told Jin Woo that she did like him initially but does not love him.
And if this is the movie's way of showcasing how they could not understand their own feelings, and followed the usual ways under society's pressure - then okay, I can understand that but what I fail to understand the later decisions the girls make - hiding the pregnancy, her death and then not allowing the child /father to acknowledge each other. I think that is highly unfair and just very weird.
I initially gave this film a 7/10 when I watched in November 2023. But rewatched it again today, and I liked the final sketch aspect a lot - so gave it 7.5 now. Like I get it and love the tragic lovers tale - and how the final sketch became a symbol of their love - how one started and other finished it, realising their love for each other (friends/romantic - we don't know and it does not matter at this point).
Just don't like why they did the ML so dirty. Sad for him and in future, maybe the daughter too? She does not know either of her parents and not because the father is bad or anything, that would make sense. Here it just feels wrong, like Mi-So and Ha-Eun were in their own world they forgot what their actions were doing to others.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to let it out.
Okay - so I have seen this actor in so many dramas, but did not know of this scandal. Just now searched and found this on Wiki: "Lee was found guilty and was ordered 160 hours of social service and 10 months of prison time with two years of probation" . This was in 2002.
While I know this is a sick case, and honestly even I am not going to see him in the same light as I was before I knew of this news. Having said that I believe we should focus on the fact that he paid for his crimes. The punishment not sure if it was just or not - but he has served his time. Which is why it is okay if he is being casted again.
Like I have said on MDL a countless times - Condemn the act, not the doer. And in this case he has been punished - now he has comeback in society. Point of punishment for crimes is - reflection and reform, not to hold them accountable for as long as they live.
Maybe this is why MBC has him casted - you cannot hold them accountable forever for their mistake/crime. But of course - even though his punishment ended, he is always going to live with it - just like how you pointed it out.
6 Episodes only? I need more of my man - SakaKen and Lee Se Young.
But guessing that it is being made by Coupang Play - most of their dramas are 6,8,10 episodes or so. Unless they are planning to make 2 parts like for Decoy.
But this is so cool and interesting, this drama is really good!
And why they added this part - cause earlier Tae Sung was a delinquent and he did not have any relationship with Sun Jae or Im Sol. They were strangers for him, a forgotten memory of high school.
But now the timeline has altered - he may have not stayed in touch, but he knows Sun Jae and Im Sol, and cares for them on a friendly level. Plus given he has turned around his life - he would have become closer to the father (detective). So call it his hunch - that when he heard the taxi driver has been released he came to check on Im Sol.
Also, in present - the detective admits, once Sun Jae is stabbed and he meets Im Sol in cafe to talk about the 2009 case. He admits that they thought the taxi driver would come at Im Sol, but why Sun Jae perplexed him too. Maybe he voiced this at home, and Tae Sung heard him and hence came to check on Im Sol?
Haha, Idk - who knows probably we are thinking so hard on this and the writers would surprise us with completely random storyline.
This can mean several things:
1. This scene probably comes after Im Sol hears that Sun Jae made out with the SFL. And she's clearly upset about it to the level that she is drinking with her brother. Tae Sung must have got to know this and therefore is warning Sun Jae not to hurt Im Sol. Like Sun Jae should sort out his matters than blame Tae Sung.
2. Just a jab - or rather a roundabout way to make him go to rehab, since it is for the better. So in a way. Tae Sung is saying there is nothing between him and Im Sol - but he will protect her. So Sun Jae can go in peace and sort himself out and be back.
At this point - Tae Sung is like your guardian SML. And this is just a trailer, so there could be some context prior to this statement he makes.
Idk why - I mean it is completely fine if he is time travelling too - but then I still want to hold on to the fact, that he is just good in his own timeline.
He is not just blindly in love but is kind overall.
This is what I feel:
Regarding disappearing in old/original timeline - I feel it must be something cause of a family matter and completely irrelevant to Im Sol. We know earlier he had a troubling relationship with his parents - like he was cold to his father, and his mother paid him no attention. So he must have gotten into some issue and therefore left the school.
But because of Im Sol's time travel and interference - the Butterfly Effect/or call it Im Sol having an impact on his life: made him mend his life for the better.
He is just plain observant - he calls it out when Im Sol travels the second time as well, that the mature Sol/granny Sol is back. And that is who he likes not the naive Sol. Which seems the same case here - he is observing her, and that is why the remark,
Regarding his appearance in 2023 outside her apartment - I feel it is to check on her. Why?
Cause now this Tae Sung did not drop out of high school, and probably mended his relationship with his father. He also heard about the 2009 case from his father and was probably shocked to know Im Sol was the victim. Just for old times sake, and his care/love for her - he probably kept tabs on her and the taxi driver in prison. So when taxi driver was released - he ensures that Im Sol is safe and therefore was loitering around her apartment.
Also since they are in their 30s, am also assuming - maybe Tae Sung is also a rookie detective in that time.
I know it is a little far-fetched, but showing multiple people time travelling might dilute the excitement of this trope. But yes, very much possible as Im Sol cannot be the only one doing so.
I have strong feeling Im Sol - Grandmother also knows something about time travelling or has done it/witnessed it first hand. Who knows maybe that is what has caused her to suffer now in old age?
1) 2009 Case:
Since preview hints that Sun Jae is leaving for US, to attend the rehab - would Im Sol save herself or will detective and his son, aka, Tae Sung save her? And I see lot of comments saying Tae Sung will save her - if so, does that mean he is in danger in future?
2) Sun Jae's career
If Sun Jae recovers and starts swimming, will he become a swimmer, or a PE teacher in future?
Or since he now knows that the future Im Sol has heard his song, and it will inspire him to write songs and become a singer? Also, since his friend has requested to enter the competition as well?
What happens to the future Im Sol, when her soul is travelling to the past? We know 2008/2009 version loses memory, she thinks someone else possess her. She is therefore not travelling to the future, I guess. Then what happens to the future Im Sol?
Time Travel 1:
Future Im Sol was at that stream, when she time travels. Returns back in hospital - she was unconscious the entire time. Fair enough.
Time Travel 2:
Im Sol time travels when she is in her room. Returns back as an support actor in a drama set.
So what happened from the time she was in her room to drama set - like who moved her body?
If her consciousness was not there how was she does this?
Or is it like because she is going back in time, the future time stops (as in how can it move forward when you are going backwards?) And because of the decisions she takes, the future is altered and where she lands up in future is just plain random?
Power of a well written and acted drama!
In my opinion, the girls were in their own bubble, had own misunderstandings and did not communicate well - therefore did not realise how they were also harming others around them.
The most heavily impacted being the ML - what happened to him, due to the actions of the girls - feels very unfair and tad bit frustrating. This is right from the start when they first start dating, up to the point where he is asked to meet his daughter as a stranger.
I think the movie - wants to focus on the girls which is why the guy becomes a villain in their love story. But tbh his actions speak otherwise - he was just as affected as the girls were, maybe more.
What I understand the ending is: Ha-Eun actually passed away. The last scene of her travelling does not happen, that is just Mi-so imagining it.
After leaving the wedding, sometime later - Ha-Eun leaves Jeju for Seoul, and that is where she takes that apartment and is living alone creating the blog and the painting that is half-finished. When she is close to her delivery date, that is when she finds Mi-so and then we see the scene when they finally talk, kind of express their feelings, and she delivers the baby but passes away shortly afterwards.
Mi-so meets with Ha-Eun's mom who asks her to retrieve Ha-Eun's things from the apartment in Seoul where she was living along. That is where she finds the blog and the painting half finished - and realizes how much they loved each other, in way that was friendly or romantic - we can't say for sure. But she raises her daughter - at the same time blogs as if she is Ha-Eun, or rather what Ha-Eun would have done (i.e. travelled and painted) and in reality she is the one who completes the painting.
In a way this is the only aspect I loved in the movie - they could not be really together - but the sketch is a symbol of their love, and they in a way worked and finished it together.
Fast-forward, Jin Woo (ML) finds Mi-so because of that painting, but she tells him another version - where the child was born and Ha-Eun left for travels, and has been unreachable since. Now, not sure if Jin-Woo takes this as face value or not - for him I think he is quite shocked at the revelation that he has a daughter. Maybe he believes the story or like Ha-Eun's mother has an idea that she is no more.
Hope I was able to share it well, and it makes sense!
Tbh, overall - I like the movie from the girls POV to an extent, but dislike what they did to the ML. This movie beautiful in some aspects - but to me it is a mixture of lack of communications and misunderstandings. For me that is not soulmate like behaviour, and so not love. But yeah - if it works if you want to see as unfulfilled or star crossed lovers story but still meh...
Either is unalive or has endings like this one.
Lovely Runner - better have a Lovely and Truly Happy ending for him 🤞🏻❤️
I understand that it is tragically beautiful if you see it from the girls POV to an extent, but I found it incredibly unfair and frustrating if you see what they did to the ML, Jin-Woo. No doubt, this movie has beautiful aspects - hinting at unrequited or star crossed lover kind of story for the girls. But to me it is a movie that highlights how lack of communications and misunderstandings ruin relationships and friendships. And that for me is not love, let alone soulmate behavior. Which is why it does not have that high regard or impact for me as a viewer.
Also, looking at it from ML - Jin-Woo's angle, given how she left him at the wedding he was still trying to find Ha-Eun, he may have started as a potential red flag - but I think if he accepted and worked on it, and the search for her - makes him a green flag. Basically the guy was good - it was a new relationship for him as well. Throughout the movie - Mi-so calls out how he does not know Ha-Eun very well.
But tbh what can the guy do - when even the girl is not communicating. Some will argue that she was shy and non-confrontational, but then she was not so with Mi-so, which is why she was her soulmate, as the movie makes out to be. So in that case, she should have just told Jin Woo that she did like him initially but does not love him.
And if this is the movie's way of showcasing how they could not understand their own feelings, and followed the usual ways under society's pressure - then okay, I can understand that but what I fail to understand the later decisions the girls make - hiding the pregnancy, her death and then not allowing the child /father to acknowledge each other. I think that is highly unfair and just very weird.
I initially gave this film a 7/10 when I watched in November 2023. But rewatched it again today, and I liked the final sketch aspect a lot - so gave it 7.5 now. Like I get it and love the tragic lovers tale - and how the final sketch became a symbol of their love - how one started and other finished it, realising their love for each other (friends/romantic - we don't know and it does not matter at this point).
Just don't like why they did the ML so dirty. Sad for him and in future, maybe the daughter too? She does not know either of her parents and not because the father is bad or anything, that would make sense. Here it just feels wrong, like Mi-So and Ha-Eun were in their own world they forgot what their actions were doing to others.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to let it out.
7,8,10 are missing T_T
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While I know this is a sick case, and honestly even I am not going to see him in the same light as I was before I knew of this news. Having said that I believe we should focus on the fact that he paid for his crimes. The punishment not sure if it was just or not - but he has served his time.
Which is why it is okay if he is being casted again.
Like I have said on MDL a countless times - Condemn the act, not the doer. And in this case he has been punished - now he has comeback in society. Point of punishment for crimes is - reflection and reform, not to hold them accountable for as long as they live.
Maybe this is why MBC has him casted - you cannot hold them accountable forever for their mistake/crime. But of course - even though his punishment ended, he is always going to live with it - just like how you pointed it out.
But guessing that it is being made by Coupang Play - most of their dramas are 6,8,10 episodes or so.
Unless they are planning to make 2 parts like for Decoy.
Really hoping for this to air soon 🥰