Big Question: What happens to the future Im Sol, when her soul is travelling to the past? We know 2008/2009 version loses memory, she thinks someone else possess her. She is therefore not travelling to the future, I guess. Then what happens to the future Im Sol?
Time Travel 1: Future Im Sol was at that stream, when she time travels. Returns back in hospital - she was unconscious the entire time. Fair enough.
Time Travel 2: Im Sol time travels when she is in her room. Returns back as an support actor in a drama set. So what happened from the time she was in her room to drama set - like who moved her body? If her consciousness was not there how was she does this?
Or is it like because she is going back in time, the future time stops (as in how can it move forward when you are going backwards?) And because of the decisions she takes, the future is altered and where she lands up in future is just plain random?
I am so damn obsessed that I am here lurking in the comments while waiting for Ep 9 to air in my region. All the while trying to not see spoilers for Ep 9, but still low-key enjoying whatever I can see
Not really a red flag. He and the girl have communication issues and they both weren't really meant for each other.…
He is a green flag - maybe started out as potential red, or rather grey. In my opinion, the girls were in their own bubble, had own misunderstandings and did not communicate well - therefore did not realise how they were also harming others around them.
The most heavily impacted being the ML - what happened to him, due to the actions of the girls - feels very unfair and tad bit frustrating. This is right from the start when they first start dating, up to the point where he is asked to meet his daughter as a stranger.
I think the movie - wants to focus on the girls which is why the guy becomes a villain in their love story. But tbh his actions speak otherwise - he was just as affected as the girls were, maybe more.
honestly, i was expecting something emotional and a structured script but the ending was a huge disappointment…
I think you have interpreted it differently. What I understand the ending is: Ha-Eun actually passed away. The last scene of her travelling does not happen, that is just Mi-so imagining it.
After leaving the wedding, sometime later - Ha-Eun leaves Jeju for Seoul, and that is where she takes that apartment and is living alone creating the blog and the painting that is half-finished. When she is close to her delivery date, that is when she finds Mi-so and then we see the scene when they finally talk, kind of express their feelings, and she delivers the baby but passes away shortly afterwards.
Mi-so meets with Ha-Eun's mom who asks her to retrieve Ha-Eun's things from the apartment in Seoul where she was living along. That is where she finds the blog and the painting half finished - and realizes how much they loved each other, in way that was friendly or romantic - we can't say for sure. But she raises her daughter - at the same time blogs as if she is Ha-Eun, or rather what Ha-Eun would have done (i.e. travelled and painted) and in reality she is the one who completes the painting.
In a way this is the only aspect I loved in the movie - they could not be really together - but the sketch is a symbol of their love, and they in a way worked and finished it together.
Fast-forward, Jin Woo (ML) finds Mi-so because of that painting, but she tells him another version - where the child was born and Ha-Eun left for travels, and has been unreachable since. Now, not sure if Jin-Woo takes this as face value or not - for him I think he is quite shocked at the revelation that he has a daughter. Maybe he believes the story or like Ha-Eun's mother has an idea that she is no more.
Hope I was able to share it well, and it makes sense! Tbh, overall - I like the movie from the girls POV to an extent, but dislike what they did to the ML. This movie beautiful in some aspects - but to me it is a mixture of lack of communications and misunderstandings. For me that is not soulmate like behaviour, and so not love. But yeah - if it works if you want to see as unfulfilled or star crossed lovers story but still meh...
She should have informed the guy about the child. Neither of them were true to each other in the relationship…
I actually had a long comment about it - when I watched it first time in Nov 2023. But my opinion is exactly like yours.
I understand that it is tragically beautiful if you see it from the girls POV to an extent, but I found it incredibly unfair and frustrating if you see what they did to the ML, Jin-Woo. No doubt, this movie has beautiful aspects - hinting at unrequited or star crossed lover kind of story for the girls. But to me it is a movie that highlights how lack of communications and misunderstandings ruin relationships and friendships. And that for me is not love, let alone soulmate behavior. Which is why it does not have that high regard or impact for me as a viewer.
Also, looking at it from ML - Jin-Woo's angle, given how she left him at the wedding he was still trying to find Ha-Eun, he may have started as a potential red flag - but I think if he accepted and worked on it, and the search for her - makes him a green flag. Basically the guy was good - it was a new relationship for him as well. Throughout the movie - Mi-so calls out how he does not know Ha-Eun very well.
But tbh what can the guy do - when even the girl is not communicating. Some will argue that she was shy and non-confrontational, but then she was not so with Mi-so, which is why she was her soulmate, as the movie makes out to be. So in that case, she should have just told Jin Woo that she did like him initially but does not love him.
And if this is the movie's way of showcasing how they could not understand their own feelings, and followed the usual ways under society's pressure - then okay, I can understand that but what I fail to understand the later decisions the girls make - hiding the pregnancy, her death and then not allowing the child /father to acknowledge each other. I think that is highly unfair and just very weird.
I initially gave this film a 7/10 when I watched in November 2023. But rewatched it again today, and I liked the final sketch aspect a lot - so gave it 7.5 now. Like I get it and love the tragic lovers tale - and how the final sketch became a symbol of their love - how one started and other finished it, realising their love for each other (friends/romantic - we don't know and it does not matter at this point).
Just don't like why they did the ML so dirty. Sad for him and in future, maybe the daughter too? She does not know either of her parents and not because the father is bad or anything, that would make sense. Here it just feels wrong, like Mi-So and Ha-Eun were in their own world they forgot what their actions were doing to others.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to let it out.
Okay - so I have seen this actor in so many dramas, but did not know of this scandal. Just now searched and found this on Wiki: "Lee was found guilty and was ordered 160 hours of social service and 10 months of prison time with two years of probation" . This was in 2002.
While I know this is a sick case, and honestly even I am not going to see him in the same light as I was before I knew of this news. Having said that I believe we should focus on the fact that he paid for his crimes. The punishment not sure if it was just or not - but he has served his time. Which is why it is okay if he is being casted again.
Like I have said on MDL a countless times - Condemn the act, not the doer. And in this case he has been punished - now he has comeback in society. Point of punishment for crimes is - reflection and reform, not to hold them accountable for as long as they live.
Maybe this is why MBC has him casted - you cannot hold them accountable forever for their mistake/crime. But of course - even though his punishment ended, he is always going to live with it - just like how you pointed it out.
6 Episodes only? I need more of my man - SakaKen and Lee Se Young.
But guessing that it is being made by Coupang Play - most of their dramas are 6,8,10 episodes or so. Unless they are planning to make 2 parts like for Decoy.
Omo! Omo! What a cast - I see Lee Hye Young as the MIL. Honestly while I know there are a lot of work she has to her name - but I have seen her in my (technically) first K-drama, Boys over Flowers as the formidable, ruthless mother of Gu Jun Pyo. What a fine actress - it will be interesting to see her here.
Kim Hee Sun - is type casted for such roles, and in a good way, She somehow does rples that are similar yet is able to bring a fresh take.
Kim Nam Hee - have seen him in Reborn Rich - and I can see similar deranged characteristics being portrayed here as well.
Looks like an interesting drama, at least by cast and premise. Definitely going to keep my eyes on it - and wait for the initial reception before starting or not.
By now we know that he was murdered and did not take his own life. But referring back to the original timeline…
I think so too - and even if it is a drama, that is so sad right. To be betrayed by one you trust.
At this point I feel there could be two killers too.
[1] 2023 - Original Timeline: Sun Jae was killed by someone he knew and trusted. And in an argument, he was accidently pushed off by that person and it was portrayed as suicide. I feel it could be Manager, In Hyuk or both in this case.
OR: it could be the taxi driver - since he and Sun Jae has seen each others' faces in the past, 2008 original timeline. Taxi driver could have waited all this years to make a plan and somehow become a part of the agency that looks after Eclipse. OR pretended to be, even Hotel staff but Sun Jae doesn't recognise him until they meet in the hotel room. Somehow he managed to sneak in and therefore, makes him unconscious, maybe chloroform, and then pushes him off the room to the pool. Sun Jae was overpowered in the room as he was fatigued and thus, drowned as he was unconscious.
[2] 2023 - New Timeline, since Im Sol changed her fate - the butterfly effect has altered the way Sun Jae is also attacked. This time - it is highly likely the Taxi Driver who has stabbed him, in retaliation for the 2008 and 2009 incident. 2008 - we know taxi driver sees Sun Jae, but not him. 2009 - the event is not clear, but we know from Im Sol's dream and confession (break-up as friends too) - that he was there and had a major role in her rescue. Taxi Driver being a psycho is pissed that his plans are all being thwarted by Sun Jae time and again, and so he plots for his revenge - in jail (if he was caught in 2009) or in hiding. Finally he gets the chance post concert in 2023.
In this changed timeline, since Sun Jae was stabbed - I doubt anyone close to him, would take such a drastic step. We can see it is not In Hyuk, as they have a very close relationship - I am guessing since school. It is not the earlier timeline, where he felt inferior and his fans attacked Sun Jae and all. Even manager who seems sus in original timeline case, has not made an appearance since in new timeline - so is he even there. Still, his involvement does not make much sense in this timeline.
Doesn't Yun Ha-jeong (Single's Inferno S3) look a lot like Kang Han Na?
Not sure, if someone has already seen this and shared - but just was seeing Running Man episode where Han-na is there. And even though I have seen her before in dramas, seeing here here as her self outside of any character made me go like Ha Jeong looks a lot like her.
By now we know that he was murdered and did not take his own life. But referring back to the original timeline…
Hmm quite possible - he was mentally fatigued the first timeline, and that is why the killer could have overpowered him. Still, not sure why his instincts did not kick in and he fought to survive - like that is our human/animal nature.
But yes, this could be one aspect. Or worse someone did harm him before pushing him to the water.
All in all - it is going to be shocking when Im Sol understands this and relates to the original timeline. Interesting so see how she will save him knowing all the facts.
I have a feeling she will also assume that bad things happen to Sun Jae when she is around - like only one of them can be happy or something like that. Which is why she will also try to stay away from him, or worse think of sacrificing herself to save him.
I know this drama will have an happy ending - it is only a matter of time for us to see, at what cost? Butterfly Effect is real - but then this is drama and I really hope all our favorite characters get a happy ending and closure, while the evil folks get a taste of their own medicine.
Moles are always sexy for some reason, especially ones around neck and yes especially more so when on handsome…
Ah your comment made me nostalgic.
If only MDL usernames had audio - I'd like to use Kim Hye Yoon's voice for mine. One of the reasons for me keeping it was the way she used it in Extraordinary You and now here as well. She sometimes acts like an elder person in a younger woman's body - it is so funny and memorable.
And yes, same reaction - Omo! Omo! Omo! everytime I see hot men with or without moles on-screen.
How could Sun Jae in present 2023 (first time) could have drowned? Just a thought as I was rewatching Lovely Runner…
By now we know that he was murdered and did not take his own life. But referring back to the original timeline of 2023 - he is at the hotel room, and the doorbell rings. The scene then cuts to the hotel pool where someone falls. Later on we see via videos that it was Sun Jae and he had been underwater for very long. The news then breaks of his death and autopsy was being done - but we do not know the results for sure, but it was cited as suicide.
Now just for the fact that he drowned - seems off to me, given that he was such a good swimmer. Even if his shoulder was injured, his survival instincts and old habits would have kicked in, and he would have been able to hold his breath long enough to kick and break to the water surface.
The only reason I can thing of is - [1] He was pushed, and the impact with water from that height made him lose consciousness and he drowned. [2] Before being pushed off the hotel room, he was made unconscious by some brute force attack/or injected some sort of drug forcefully - not sure if done by someone known or taxi driver. [3] The person he met in hotel room was someone known, and they slipped him something in his drink/food that made him unconscious - and then pushed him off. For this if it is someone known - my suspicions are on the Manager, and I hope not - but even his friend In Hyuk. [4] If it is case 3 and 4, then I think someone in the police and forensic department is also hiding something. Cause why was this not released in the news? Or they did not want to make it a big news? -- Again, seems like Manager definitely knows more than he is letting on.
How could Sun Jae in present 2023 (first time) could have drowned? Just a thought as I was rewatching Lovely Runner Ep 3 (yes, I'm obsessed with this show).
Writing in first comment below - under spoiler tag. Do share what you think - if you are reading this...
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What happens to the future Im Sol, when her soul is travelling to the past? We know 2008/2009 version loses memory, she thinks someone else possess her. She is therefore not travelling to the future, I guess. Then what happens to the future Im Sol?
Time Travel 1:
Future Im Sol was at that stream, when she time travels. Returns back in hospital - she was unconscious the entire time. Fair enough.
Time Travel 2:
Im Sol time travels when she is in her room. Returns back as an support actor in a drama set.
So what happened from the time she was in her room to drama set - like who moved her body?
If her consciousness was not there how was she does this?
Or is it like because she is going back in time, the future time stops (as in how can it move forward when you are going backwards?) And because of the decisions she takes, the future is altered and where she lands up in future is just plain random?
Power of a well written and acted drama!
In my opinion, the girls were in their own bubble, had own misunderstandings and did not communicate well - therefore did not realise how they were also harming others around them.
The most heavily impacted being the ML - what happened to him, due to the actions of the girls - feels very unfair and tad bit frustrating. This is right from the start when they first start dating, up to the point where he is asked to meet his daughter as a stranger.
I think the movie - wants to focus on the girls which is why the guy becomes a villain in their love story. But tbh his actions speak otherwise - he was just as affected as the girls were, maybe more.
What I understand the ending is: Ha-Eun actually passed away. The last scene of her travelling does not happen, that is just Mi-so imagining it.
After leaving the wedding, sometime later - Ha-Eun leaves Jeju for Seoul, and that is where she takes that apartment and is living alone creating the blog and the painting that is half-finished. When she is close to her delivery date, that is when she finds Mi-so and then we see the scene when they finally talk, kind of express their feelings, and she delivers the baby but passes away shortly afterwards.
Mi-so meets with Ha-Eun's mom who asks her to retrieve Ha-Eun's things from the apartment in Seoul where she was living along. That is where she finds the blog and the painting half finished - and realizes how much they loved each other, in way that was friendly or romantic - we can't say for sure. But she raises her daughter - at the same time blogs as if she is Ha-Eun, or rather what Ha-Eun would have done (i.e. travelled and painted) and in reality she is the one who completes the painting.
In a way this is the only aspect I loved in the movie - they could not be really together - but the sketch is a symbol of their love, and they in a way worked and finished it together.
Fast-forward, Jin Woo (ML) finds Mi-so because of that painting, but she tells him another version - where the child was born and Ha-Eun left for travels, and has been unreachable since. Now, not sure if Jin-Woo takes this as face value or not - for him I think he is quite shocked at the revelation that he has a daughter. Maybe he believes the story or like Ha-Eun's mother has an idea that she is no more.
Hope I was able to share it well, and it makes sense!
Tbh, overall - I like the movie from the girls POV to an extent, but dislike what they did to the ML. This movie beautiful in some aspects - but to me it is a mixture of lack of communications and misunderstandings. For me that is not soulmate like behaviour, and so not love. But yeah - if it works if you want to see as unfulfilled or star crossed lovers story but still meh...
Either is unalive or has endings like this one.
Lovely Runner - better have a Lovely and Truly Happy ending for him 🤞🏻❤️
I understand that it is tragically beautiful if you see it from the girls POV to an extent, but I found it incredibly unfair and frustrating if you see what they did to the ML, Jin-Woo. No doubt, this movie has beautiful aspects - hinting at unrequited or star crossed lover kind of story for the girls. But to me it is a movie that highlights how lack of communications and misunderstandings ruin relationships and friendships. And that for me is not love, let alone soulmate behavior. Which is why it does not have that high regard or impact for me as a viewer.
Also, looking at it from ML - Jin-Woo's angle, given how she left him at the wedding he was still trying to find Ha-Eun, he may have started as a potential red flag - but I think if he accepted and worked on it, and the search for her - makes him a green flag. Basically the guy was good - it was a new relationship for him as well. Throughout the movie - Mi-so calls out how he does not know Ha-Eun very well.
But tbh what can the guy do - when even the girl is not communicating. Some will argue that she was shy and non-confrontational, but then she was not so with Mi-so, which is why she was her soulmate, as the movie makes out to be. So in that case, she should have just told Jin Woo that she did like him initially but does not love him.
And if this is the movie's way of showcasing how they could not understand their own feelings, and followed the usual ways under society's pressure - then okay, I can understand that but what I fail to understand the later decisions the girls make - hiding the pregnancy, her death and then not allowing the child /father to acknowledge each other. I think that is highly unfair and just very weird.
I initially gave this film a 7/10 when I watched in November 2023. But rewatched it again today, and I liked the final sketch aspect a lot - so gave it 7.5 now. Like I get it and love the tragic lovers tale - and how the final sketch became a symbol of their love - how one started and other finished it, realising their love for each other (friends/romantic - we don't know and it does not matter at this point).
Just don't like why they did the ML so dirty. Sad for him and in future, maybe the daughter too? She does not know either of her parents and not because the father is bad or anything, that would make sense. Here it just feels wrong, like Mi-So and Ha-Eun were in their own world they forgot what their actions were doing to others.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to let it out.
7,8,10 are missing T_T
https://vv.dramacool.sr/drama-detail/dr-chocolate-2023
While I know this is a sick case, and honestly even I am not going to see him in the same light as I was before I knew of this news. Having said that I believe we should focus on the fact that he paid for his crimes. The punishment not sure if it was just or not - but he has served his time.
Which is why it is okay if he is being casted again.
Like I have said on MDL a countless times - Condemn the act, not the doer. And in this case he has been punished - now he has comeback in society. Point of punishment for crimes is - reflection and reform, not to hold them accountable for as long as they live.
Maybe this is why MBC has him casted - you cannot hold them accountable forever for their mistake/crime. But of course - even though his punishment ended, he is always going to live with it - just like how you pointed it out.
But guessing that it is being made by Coupang Play - most of their dramas are 6,8,10 episodes or so.
Unless they are planning to make 2 parts like for Decoy.
Really hoping for this to air soon 🥰
Kim Hee Sun - is type casted for such roles, and in a good way, She somehow does rples that are similar yet is able to bring a fresh take.
Kim Nam Hee - have seen him in Reborn Rich - and I can see similar deranged characteristics being portrayed here as well.
Looks like an interesting drama, at least by cast and premise. Definitely going to keep my eyes on it - and wait for the initial reception before starting or not.
At this point I feel there could be two killers too.
[1] 2023 - Original Timeline: Sun Jae was killed by someone he knew and trusted. And in an argument, he was accidently pushed off by that person and it was portrayed as suicide. I feel it could be Manager, In Hyuk or both in this case.
OR: it could be the taxi driver - since he and Sun Jae has seen each others' faces in the past, 2008 original timeline. Taxi driver could have waited all this years to make a plan and somehow become a part of the agency that looks after Eclipse. OR pretended to be, even Hotel staff but Sun Jae doesn't recognise him until they meet in the hotel room. Somehow he managed to sneak in and therefore, makes him unconscious, maybe chloroform, and then pushes him off the room to the pool. Sun Jae was overpowered in the room as he was fatigued and thus, drowned as he was unconscious.
[2] 2023 - New Timeline, since Im Sol changed her fate - the butterfly effect has altered the way Sun Jae is also attacked. This time - it is highly likely the Taxi Driver who has stabbed him, in retaliation for the 2008 and 2009 incident. 2008 - we know taxi driver sees Sun Jae, but not him. 2009 - the event is not clear, but we know from Im Sol's dream and confession (break-up as friends too) - that he was there and had a major role in her rescue. Taxi Driver being a psycho is pissed that his plans are all being thwarted by Sun Jae time and again, and so he plots for his revenge - in jail (if he was caught in 2009) or in hiding. Finally he gets the chance post concert in 2023.
In this changed timeline, since Sun Jae was stabbed - I doubt anyone close to him, would take such a drastic step. We can see it is not In Hyuk, as they have a very close relationship - I am guessing since school. It is not the earlier timeline, where he felt inferior and his fans attacked Sun Jae and all. Even manager who seems sus in original timeline case, has not made an appearance since in new timeline - so is he even there. Still, his involvement does not make much sense in this timeline.
Not sure, if someone has already seen this and shared - but just was seeing Running Man episode where Han-na is there. And even though I have seen her before in dramas, seeing here here as her self outside of any character made me go like Ha Jeong looks a lot like her.
But yes, this could be one aspect. Or worse someone did harm him before pushing him to the water.
All in all - it is going to be shocking when Im Sol understands this and relates to the original timeline. Interesting so see how she will save him knowing all the facts.
I have a feeling she will also assume that bad things happen to Sun Jae when she is around - like only one of them can be happy or something like that. Which is why she will also try to stay away from him, or worse think of sacrificing herself to save him.
I know this drama will have an happy ending - it is only a matter of time for us to see, at what cost? Butterfly Effect is real - but then this is drama and I really hope all our favorite characters get a happy ending and closure, while the evil folks get a taste of their own medicine.
If only MDL usernames had audio - I'd like to use Kim Hye Yoon's voice for mine. One of the reasons for me keeping it was the way she used it in Extraordinary You and now here as well. She sometimes acts like an elder person in a younger woman's body - it is so funny and memorable.
And yes, same reaction - Omo! Omo! Omo! everytime I see hot men with or without moles on-screen.
Now just for the fact that he drowned - seems off to me, given that he was such a good swimmer. Even if his shoulder was injured, his survival instincts and old habits would have kicked in, and he would have been able to hold his breath long enough to kick and break to the water surface.
The only reason I can thing of is -
[1] He was pushed, and the impact with water from that height made him lose consciousness and he drowned.
[2] Before being pushed off the hotel room, he was made unconscious by some brute force attack/or injected some sort of drug forcefully - not sure if done by someone known or taxi driver.
[3] The person he met in hotel room was someone known, and they slipped him something in his drink/food that made him unconscious - and then pushed him off. For this if it is someone known - my suspicions are on the Manager, and I hope not - but even his friend In Hyuk.
[4] If it is case 3 and 4, then I think someone in the police and forensic department is also hiding something. Cause why was this not released in the news? Or they did not want to make it a big news? -- Again, seems like Manager definitely knows more than he is letting on.
Just a thought as I was rewatching Lovely Runner Ep 3 (yes, I'm obsessed with this show).
Writing in first comment below - under spoiler tag. Do share what you think - if you are reading this...
My first such encounter was watching William Moseley as Peter in the Narnia movie - weirdly attractive, no reason why 😂